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- #1029462
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- Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1029462/action/topic#1029462
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R1 is just a fan film though.
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R1 is just a fan film though.
Oldie but goodie š
This is no way for anyone to die.
I think murderers should die in the exact same way they murder their victims
Later in that article:
Another solution is to use CGI effectsā¦"āRogue Oneā is the road map," says one āStar Warsā source, referring to Lucasfilm resurrecting Peter Cushing and making Fisher young again in the current hit.
It sounds like their plan is to double down on the video game cutscenes. Maybe PIXAR can take over at some point.
Seeing as how Disney is undoubtedly not going to wait until the technology is ready I hope they at least can touch up the CGI characters in subsequent releases of the films that implement this techniqueā¦which could be every damn one of them for all we know.
Exactly. Iām of the thought that Luke had to direct Lor San Tekka there as I remember the Jakku village being close in proximity to Niima Outpost. I mean thatās a little too obvious.
And to clarify I donāt think doubleofive meant that Luke didnāt trust Leia and thatās why he gave R2 the piece of the map. If Luke didnāt trust her he wouldnāt have given it to TWO mutual allies.
What the heck is even happening.
Craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap
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Look, Iām fine with certain minor things in the Star Wars universe not making complete logical sense. I mean, it seems like itād be a lot easier if astromech droids just spoke English (Arabesh? whateverā¦) rather than bleeps and whistles, but who cares?
The movie straight up tells us that the resistance does not have a map of that region of space, so the fragment from Lor San Tekka is meaningless without context. Then R2 spontaneously reactivates and reveals he has the full map minus that one fragment. It seems to me like something that needs an explanation.
I could have sworn BB-8 put the last piece inā¦
He did, because there was a piece missing. Like I said, R2 āreveals he has the full map minus that one fragment.ā
I thought you said āplusā that one fragment. My mistake.
But in regards to:
Cthulhunicron said:
The movie straight up tells us that the resistance does not have a map of that region of space, so the fragment from Lor San Tekka is meaningless without context.
Iām not exactly sure how it can be meaningless if that was the final piece that completed the map. That seems pretty damn meaningful to me or am is there something Iām missing?
Look, Iām fine with certain minor things in the Star Wars universe not making complete logical sense. I mean, it seems like itād be a lot easier if astromech droids just spoke English (Arabesh? whateverā¦) rather than bleeps and whistles, but who cares?
The movie straight up tells us that the resistance does not have a map of that region of space, so the fragment from Lor San Tekka is meaningless without context. Then R2 spontaneously reactivates and reveals he has the full map minus that one fragment. It seems to me like something that needs an explanation.
I could have sworn BB-8 put the last piece inā¦
Either someone (possibly Luke, possibly someone else) knew where Luke was going and put the map in R2 (why?). Or someone tracked Lukeās journey, created the map, and put it in R2 without telling anyone else in the Resistance (again, why?).
That entire thing does need to be explained but mostly because of Lor San Tekka being on Jakku and how that might relate to Rey. That doesnāt really coincide with your main point though.
How is not major? Itād be like if the original Star Wars never explained what the Death Star weakness was.
Not at all. Itād be like if the original Star Wars never explained why Leia couldnāt just beam the plans directly to Yavin.
Fuck, that hadnāt even occurred to me. Why would you do such a thing to me?
Itās hard for me to believe that if the Empire and the First Order had a map of that region of space, but the Resistance didnāt. After the fall of the Empire, the Rebels would have had access to many imperial bases, ships, computers, records, etc.
That still doesnāt mean they would learn literally everything about The Empire. Iām quite sure Palpatine would have wanted such information to be harder to access than most information one could salvage from The Empire. Could be very few places where these maps (or the pieces) were stored and the other places could have been simply destroyed. Also Iām not sure if youāre aware that The First Order was an Imperial Remnant so they had access to archives of The Empire as Kylo said which is how they found how they recovered part of the map. The New Republic may have had access to more sources of Imperial intelligence but it doesnāt really matter as the early version of The First Order also had the means to obtain knowledge.
Also, I donāt see how R2 could have had the map before Luke left because the map has a line showing which planets Luke has been to. I mean, maybe itās a map that Luke found, and the line is showing the migrations of the ancient Jedi or whatever, but thatās never stated in the film. I also donāt see why he would leave that in R2 before he left if he was trying to prevent anyone from following him.
Or he could have plotted where he was going on the map and given the information to R2. Youāre overthinking it dude lol.
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How is not major? Itād be like if the original Star Wars never explained what the Death Star weakness was.
STAR WARS never explained how the proton torpedo defied the laws of physics and got āsuckedā into the narrow exhaust port which lead to the destruction of the first Death Star. It doesnāt really matter at the end of the day.
Lord Haseo said:
Iām not so pompous as to delude myself into thinking me merely disagreeing with you would prompt you to go on this childish endeavor.
FTFY
Sorry, I have completely lost you. Could you please explain these three points to me:
How is asking a simple and logical question like āwhy not?ā, in response to a comment about my ranking (i.e. āI did not see that comingā), being āpissed offā?
How is wondering about 1. being āchildish endeavourā?
You disagreed with me on what exactly? I donāt see any expression of disagreement in your posts with regards to my ranking. I only see rather off-topic childish endeavour in your posts.
As for the rest of thatā¦Iām not playing your game. Try that crap with someone else.
I do appreciate his commitment to the bit. Even if his shtick has gotten stale I didnāt think heād be able to keep up to pretense for this long.
I merely asked why as I was genuinely interested. I do not see any pretence in that.
We must have really pissed the man off.
Donāt flatter yourself.
Actually if anything someone like Frink should have angered you more. Iām not so pompous as to delude myself into thinking me merely disagreeing with you would prompt you to go on this childish endeavor.
I would probably contemplate letting it in my house but I wouldnāt want to know what bat shit smelled like.
Literally couldnāt have said it better myself.
I do appreciate his commitment to the bit. Even if his shtick has gotten stale I didnāt think heād be able to keep up to pretense for this long. We must have really pissed the man off.
How do you account for the differences both big and small between the two scenes?
EDIT:
Iām also curious as to your opinion on the Rey interrogation scene and how similar it is to Leiaās interrogation scene.
The only that scene would ever really be a rehash is if Kylo and Han got in a lightsaber duel and/or Han sacrificed himself. As it stands the scene being conversation based adds a new elements that isnāt really in STAR WARS. Sure Ben and Vader talked but it was mostly taunting whereas Ben and Han actually had a conversation. Also the mindset if the characters is quite different. Vader has no qualms about killing ben while Kylo is conflicted. Ben has given up hope on Vader whereas Han still has hope his Son could go back to the side of decency and that even though his son has done terrible things his actions can be rectified.
The scene is only a rehash is you ignore certain details.
Yeah , unless R2 conveniently waking up ties in with something of major significance it probably will be glossed over. Plus there are many things Episodes VIII and IX need to explain like:
Reyās inherent talent for the Force
Who Snoke is
The political landscape after the Hosnian system was destroyed
How Maz got her hand on Lukeās original saber
Who Reyās parents are
so something like this is low on the list.
Yeah, that evil plane of existence can stay as far away from me as possible.
There goes my theory on unity not being possible in the SW community. Iām glad I was wrong about that.
Until he ruined it with the very next post.
Yeah, itās hard to him even a modicum of praise when he turns around and acts like that. I think itās gotten to the point that we need to entertain the idea of informing his mother about his behavior
Youāre thinking of when Anakin goes off to find his mother.
Carth, Mission and Zaalbar arenāt particularly interesting characters (those are the ones Iāve met so far).
First one made me legit giggleā¦Donāt sleep on Onasi.
There goes my theory on unity not being possible in the SW community. Iām glad I was wrong about that.
Updated list:
Iām waiting to see 3rd person gameplay or at least confirmation that itās going to have 3rd person available before rendering judgement. But boy if itās just 1st person Iāll pass on that mod.