Lord Haseo

imperialscum said:

Development (change of character) does not make characters good or well written. TFA characters may get more development throughout the film but they are boring or unoriginal and the development is bad or unoriginal. While in R1 the characters may not change much (do no get much development) but at least they are complex and interesting.

Elaborate please. Beyond Cassian how are the characters complex? You say these things but you never really go into detail.

Lord Haseo said:

I think you should stop finding lame false explanations about R1 and TFA in order to feel better. You should face the fact that R1 is simply good and TFA is crap. Those of us who like R1 and dislike TFA simply accept this truth.

I like Rogue One but it’s definitely more entertaining than well written. I personally can’t say the same for TFA.

TFA is neither well written nor entertaining.

Your opinion.

EDIT:

Tobar said:

Mocata said:

TFA still has the stupid map and the stupider R2D2 activation moment, but it averages out so that both become simply mediocre.

Don’t forget seeing the destruction of a planet from an entirely different star system.

TFA was far worse with its offenses.

I think we can all agree Starkiller Base is the worst thing to come out of these films.

John Wick - 7.7/10

Peeped this again last night and it was a blast. Can’t wait to see Chapter 2 tomorrow.

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

I think anyone who enjoys Rogue One more than TFA or any of the OT films just wanted a simple and original story filled with fun characters and nice explosions. Doesn’t matter if the plot is inconsistent and certain things are glossed over or that most of the characters are paper thin because Rogue One is a fun ride overall.

Speaking of inconsistent plot and glossed over things, TFA pretends that plot is about finding Luke while in reality it is about destroying death star. R1 has nothing anywhere this scale.

That has nothing to do with my complaint about Rogue One.

Speaking of paper thin characters, Krennic and Cassian are by far more interesting and complex than any of the “paper thin” character in TFA.

Two standout characters in a film filled with underdeveloped characters. TFA’s characters in general were more fleshed out. You don’t have to like Finn, Rey, Kylo or this version of Han and Leia but we knew far more about them than we did about most of the characters in Rogue One. That includes Cassian and especially Director Krennic. He was a competent and entertaining villain but there isn’t much character development there. His rationalization of using terror to instill piece is great but was glossed over and aside from that there’s nothing much to say about his character in terms of actual depth. I’ve already gone into detail over why Kylo Ren is complex and have pointed that he will be given even more layers as the ST moves forward. Cassian was interesting and we got to know about his backstory and how he views the Rebellions more questionable actions but I felt there could have been more to him or that his moral ambiguity was made a larger focal point. If we compare him to Rey however he seems underdeveloped in comparison as we know certain things about Rey’s backstory, we have seen a myriad of emotional states from her, we have seen actions that show us what type of person she is, we know the pain that dwells inside her, we know her hopes etc. We definitely didn’t get much of that with Jyn. Aside from the sub plot with her father (which was well done imo) and her being angry about being abandoned by Saw Gurerra which has caused her not to expect people to be there for her about she is just as underwritten as the others.

I think you should stop finding lame false explanations about R1 and TFA in order to feel better. You should face the fact that R1 is simply good and TFA is crap. Those of us who like R1 and dislike TFA simply accept this truth.

I like Rogue One but it’s definitely more entertaining than well written. I personally can’t say the same for TFA.

Mithrandir said:
That’s what we need. A simple, effective story that doesn’t need to create mistery around anything to get you going. I want to see cinema, not the byproduct of a generation of videogamers.

That’s pretty much the jist of it. I think anyone who enjoys Rogue One more than TFA or any of the OT films just wanted a simple and original story filled with fun characters and nice explosions. Doesn’t matter if the plot is inconsistent and certain things are glossed over or that most of the characters are paper thin because Rogue One is a fun ride overall.

Possessed said:

That’s the name of my fourth album. Glad it’s better than something!

Hopefully you took more than just the name because Candlemass’ riffing is impeccable 😉

Has anyone officially commented on whether it’s plural or not? It’s pretty open as of now and shut but official comments are way better.

Tobar said:

Lord Haseo said:

Ignore this post. Rehashed post is rehashed

FTFY

I attribute my inability to properly construct that post to my Truth deficiency.

Nightfall > Epicus Doomicus Metallicus

Ignore this post. Redundant post is redundant

mindcrime1970 said:

Here’s my List

1.Empire Strikes Back
2.A New Hope
3.Return of the Jedi
4.The Force Awakens
5.Attack of the Clones
6.The Clone Wars
7.Revenge of the Sith
8.Rogue One
9.Phantom Menace

May I ask why you have AOTC so high and Rogue One so low?

TV’s Frink said:

Lord Haseo said:

He wants to say “rehash” so badly right now.

He also wants to say “truth” so badly right now, but since it has eluded him, he’s flailing about, and it’s glorious.

He truly has nothing this time but unfortunately like a wounded cockroach he will scurry away to pester us at a later time. Until the day he gets squshed by the ban hammer. Definitely a day I’m looking forward to.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

He wants to say “rehash” so badly right now.

Mithrandir said:
Kylo being more prominent as lead villain, just like Vader was in Empire.
Luke, who has always been the voice of balance and common-sense thinking in OT, being all misterious like Yoda

These are something literally anyone could have predicted. As for the others does MSW have proof or anything to substantiate their rumors? If not then they will be just rumors until proven otherwise.

Sweet. I really dig the more distinct frown and the trimmer design. This is the best Storm Troopers have ever looked.

DominicCobb said:
Shame too because I’m sure there’ll be amazing stuff for the 40th.

If there was ever a year in which they would show out it would be this one…I don’t really think I have a choice anymore.

While the teaser is enticing I’m more interested in the information Rian among others will dish out regarding TLJ. That and reveling in the love of Star Wars. The only thing is that I have no one to go with. Being a recluse is fine until situations like this pop up.

Dibs on making that the picture in my signature.

For some reason Rey’s hair is giving me a Samurai vibe.

And if this is for TLJ that means Luke won’t be taking back his first saber.

Well I’d be going primarily for TLJ so I might be satisfied.

Has anyone been to Star Wars Celebration? Is it worth the price?

Tobar said:

This is not the post you are looking for. Move along.

Well I’m going to rehash the shit outta this one

ATMachine said:

Lord Haseo said:

Mocata said:

Also when did Han become an expert on fixing The Falcon?

This kind of thing always makes me laugh, since Han’s whole act was just bravado. The other characters in ANH clearly know this and in ESB he never even fixes the broken hyperdrive.

Speaking of ESB who can forget when Han showed his prowess by hitting the Falcon with his fist to get some shit to work? If that doesn’t make you an expert then what does?

On a side note I always loved that R2 fixed the hyperdrive given Han’s disposition towards droids

As I recall, Han fixing the Falcon with “percussive maintenance” was actually Harrison Ford doing that in real life when the cockpit set lights failed to turn on properly. 😄

Still in the story…

doubleofive said:

“Did your men deactivate the hyperdrive on the Millennium Falcon?”

“Yessir, we had them unplug an easily accessible wire. They will think its something a lot more complicated, it should take them days to figure it out!”

“Couldn’t you just have removed it completely?”

Good point