Lord Haseo

SilverWook said:

I’m tired of double dipping.

Especially after triple dipping in the theaters…

adywan said:
So NO deleted scenes

Pretty insulting considering all the shit they cut out of the film…

generalfrevious said:
Say what you want about the prequels, they were at least interesting failures as opposed to passable filler.

I would rather have a film that’s watchable than to watch a bad film that’s only somewhat enjoyable when talking about how it could have been better in retrospect. But hey…

Gobekli Tepe…Gobekli

generalfrevious said:

ray_afraid said:

generalfrevious said:

The Nintendo switch is going to fail, really hard.

You’re wrong.

No I’m not. From what I read about the specs the switch can’t even hold a candle to consoles released ten years ago. Even if it weren’t about the graphics, Nintendo has only 2-3 major IPs (Mario, Zelda, Pokémon) that are just updated versions of games we played 20 years ago. They are now decades behind the times in terms of online gaming, and I’m not sure how the switch is even that different from the Wii U (other than it uses cartridges instead of discs). This is easily going to flop and bankrupt Nintendo within two years.

Have you not heard about how hard they’re trying to get good 3rd party support? That’s going to make a huge fucking difference.

Alderaan said:

Lord Haseo said:

The fundamental problems with the PT lie within their scripts…they’re broken on essentially every level. Hand a blind squirrel a camera and as long as the scripts are solid you would end up with a better PT than what we got.

Actually, I think it’s even more basic than that. Underneath the script there is “the story”. The script is the execution of the story. But in the PT case, the fundamental story is the problem. I think George’s vision of Star Wars is very different than what we got in the Original Trilogy, and I think he harbors a lot of animosity because of it. He considers it his story, his universe, but all of these other ideas and conceits from Kersh and Kurtz and studio execs and actors got in the way and messed up his baby.

I think the Special Edition, including the ridiculous editing mistakes, and the prequels and the midichlorians and Yoda spinning around with a lightsaber, are all very much more in tune with George Lucas’s vision of Star Wars than what we got in the OOT.

I think if George’s vision was so skewed from the beginning STAR WARS wouldn’t be as great as it is. The universe aligned itself in a lot of ways to make that film what it is but George was the sole writer of the story and it’s one of the greatest stories ever told.

DominicCobb said:

Leia never agreed to be trained. Luke was just told to pass on what he had learned. Obviously the assumption was that would be to Leia, but if Leia had different plans - like starting a family with Han - it’d make sense that he might hold off, knowing he could train Ben (and others).

For a time but sometimes sacrifices need to be made. Leia made such a sacrifice in canon and as a result Snoke was found an opening to worm his way in.

And again, we don’t know that Luke didn’t teach Leia the ways of the Force, just that she didn’t become a Jedi (we know at least that she has the power to sense her husband dying on another planet). There’s a lot about this topic we don’t know yet.

I could have sworn I heard somewhere he gave her a beginners course in how to use The Force. Think Luke’s training in SW.

ray_afraid said:

Lord Haseo said:

ray_afraid said:

He wouldn’t need a reason. He’d want to try it for fun. He also acts like he’s never even seen what it can do. I just don’t buy it.

Many gun owners marvel at weapons they’re firing for the time

Some of us do. Again, I just don’t buy it. No big deal.

And that’s perfectly fine. Not exactly sure if I by it myself.

DominicCobb said:

Lord Haseo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Lord Haseo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Leia was a not-Jedi for all three original movies. I don’t think of her as a Jedi, she didn’t think of herself as a Jedi, and it would have been weird for her to suddenly be a Jedi in the fourth movie.

The 30 year time gaps helps all of these issues both with our perception and Leia’s potential “conflict” regarding embracing being a Jedi.

I get that, I’m just saying it would have been jarring and I’m glad they didn’t go that route. I wouldn’t have said it “ruined her character” or anything silly like that.

To each their own. I’m fine with the route they went though it does make me say “So much for that” whenever I watch ROTJ.

I don’t think it’d really make all that much sense for Leia to have dropped everything she’d been doing to become a Jedi. She’d been in politics pretty much her whole life, I don’t know what the canon thing is here but I imagine she went into that again after the Empire fell

The Force is a very new concept to her. One might want to train out of sheer curiosity but for her she could afford to spend a few years training since their side since her side won. Who knows how much her newfound powers could benefit the New Republic as Luke was instrumental in the Rebellions triumph. Also Ben could have trained with them once he came of age.

(not to mention raising her son).

That’s a separate issue as Luke planned to train Leia far before Ben was born.

And just because she didn’t become a Jedi doesn’t mean she didn’t learn to use the Force.

ray_afraid said:

He wouldn’t need a reason. He’d want to try it for fun. He also acts like he’s never even seen what it can do. I just don’t buy it.

Many gun owners marvel at weapons they’re firing for the time on a pretty consistent basis. Growing up in Florida I know that shit is true. It gets weird sometimes.

TV’s Frink said:

Lord Haseo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Leia was a not-Jedi for all three original movies. I don’t think of her as a Jedi, she didn’t think of herself as a Jedi, and it would have been weird for her to suddenly be a Jedi in the fourth movie.

The 30 year time gaps helps all of these issues both with our perception and Leia’s potential “conflict” regarding embracing being a Jedi.

I get that, I’m just saying it would have been jarring and I’m glad they didn’t go that route. I wouldn’t have said it “ruined her character” or anything silly like that.

To each their own. I’m fine with the route they went though it does make me say “So much for that” whenever I watch ROTJ.

TV’s Frink said:

Lord Haseo said:

Not watching the OT before writing the PT.

Lol, true, but I think his worst decision with the PT was not letting someone else direct it. He’s a big picture story guy, but he’s no good with actors or dialogue.

The fundamental problems with the PT lie within their scripts…they’re broken on essentially every level. Hand a blind squirrel a camera and as long as the scripts are solid you would end up with a better PT than what we got.

TV’s Frink said:

Leia was a not-Jedi for all three original movies. I don’t think of her as a Jedi, she didn’t think of herself as a Jedi, and it would have been weird for her to suddenly be a Jedi in the fourth movie.

The 30 year time gaps helps all of these issues both with our perception and Leia’s potential “conflict” regarding embracing being a Jedi.

TV’s Frink said:

Lord Haseo said:

Alderaan said:

TV’s Frink said:

Han and Leia were great in TFA.

Where is that Donald Trump “Wrong!” meme at…

What was wrong with their portrayal? They’re the same people we know them from ROTJ with the exception of sharing a loss that has led them to splitting up.

I wish Leia would have became a Jedi though. They fucked up not doing that in my opinion.

I’m glad they didn’t do that, personally.

Why?

I personally think they should have opted for both. Have Luke train her in the first decade or so post the Battle of Endor then after (insert reason here) she decides to fully invest in Politics/Military.

Alderaan said:

Lord Haseo said:

What was wrong with their portrayal? They’re the same people we know them from ROTJ with the exception of sharing a loss that has led them to splitting up.

Leia didn’t really have a role in the movie. She was just “there”.

She sent Poe to Lor San Tekka and in general her resolve is why The Resistance had any chance to find Luke. She also gave Han hope that their son still had light in him.

She doesn’t even acknowledge Chewie after Han dies. Instead she’s consoling someone she barely knows because welp, the filmmakers needed to foist some kind of female character connection upon the audience that they weren’t skilled enough to establish in a dramatic way throughout the rest of the movie.

They fucked up with the Chewie thing…yes they did. Even JJ admits he was wrong for that. Sucks no one who was around him during filming that told him that having Leia hug Rey is a terrible idea.

Han was better because he had a legitimate role in the movie, but the role was still more in line with Kingdom of the Crystal Skull bullshit than Star Wars. At no point in the movie did I ever feel like Han Solo was a serious character. He feels like he’s an action figure in a comic book universe.

I really don’t know what to say to this one…sorry you feel that way.

And I can’t even get started on this whole thing with their supposed son. There is nothing emotional or dramatic about any of it because these people never share a history together on screen. Characters don’t earn those emotions through a few lines of expository dialogue. He’s Han and Leia’s son…because the writers told us. Oh look, he killed Han. How sad! Just no, no, no. That’s not how it works.

I care about Han, Leia and Luke so that’s why I cared. I care about Ben and Luke in SW so that’s why I was emotionally invested in Ben confronting Darth Vader.

Not watching the OT before writing the PT.

Alderaan said:

TV’s Frink said:

Han and Leia were great in TFA.

Where is that Donald Trump “Wrong!” meme at…

What was wrong with their portrayal? They’re the same people we know them from ROTJ with the exception of sharing a loss that has led them to splitting up.

I wish Leia would have became a Jedi though. They fucked up not doing that in my opinion.

If this isn’t the most childish thing I have ever seen in my life…

What did we do this time?

ray_afraid said:

JEDIRotJ said:

None of the SW movies feature good acting or good dialog.

This is something many PT fans try to say, but it just isn’t true at all.

Ewan McGregor, Daisy Ridley, Mark Hamill (ESB), Harrison Ford, Adam Driver, Ian Mcdiarmid, Guinness etc…

Why shit on everything because the films you like have fundamental problems?

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Lord Haseo said:

I guarantee that an early draft of TFA had Luke doing something similar. Would have been awesome if it had happened that way instead.

I’d love to see Luke wield a blaster again. Not sure how that would work with the new persona though.

He could use it as a last resort.

If anything that void will be filled by Rey using her staff and blaster along side her Lightsaber. Han giving her that blaster pretty much confirms that it’ll stay with her for a while.

I guarantee that an early draft of TFA had Luke doing something similar. Would have been awesome if it had happened that way instead.

JEDIRotJ said:

Well we all have our own opinions and we should respect each other. I don’t like the forest battle, so i basically ignore it. So what? A lot of people ignore all Jar Jar scenes but his scenes were actually important to the plot (sad, i know).

A lot of Jar Jar scenes are removed from Fan edits but not from the minds of the individuals passing judgement on TPM.

JEDIRotJ said:

1 - ROTJ (Ignoring all Ewok scenes and having all of the deleted scenes put back in the movie)

You shouldn’t have to do all that though lol