Lord Haseo

imperialscum said:
That is not ignorant. That is being intelligent enough to hold my own opinion and not let some <insert bad word> on internet try to push their own opinion upon me.

Lord Haseo said:
Also this conversation isn’t about opinions; TPM has racial stereotypes. End of discussion. Just because it happens to be in a franchise you sort of like doesn’t warrant ANYONE to try to worm their way around, justify or turn a blind eye to it.

imperialscum said:
That is exactly what I meant by people trying to push their opinion on others. I cannot stand it. I am not going to acknowledge your opinion as a fact.

You being willfully ignorant because reasons doesn’t surprise me in the slightest.

Also this conversation isn’t about opinions; TPM has racial stereotypes. End of discussion. Just because it happens to be in a franchise you sort of like doesn’t warrant ANYONE to try to worm their way around, justify or turn a blind eye to it.

You don’t have to care about the racial stereotypes but you should at least acknowledge that they’re there.

That’s not the point and you know it. There were multiple story lines that were left unfinished and questions that were left unanswered and that makes it not a fully contained story like STAR WARS. Both films were designed around having things picked up in the next film because sequels were definitely happening.

imperialscum said:
Well OT has a lot of depth.

A great deal of it being in ESB.

TFA felt completely empty.

It had a bit more under the surface than SW but not ESB or ROTJ though.

I would say, while annoying, at least PT had more depth than TFA.

I agree but then again you’re comparing an entire trilogy to one movie so that’s not really a good overall point. TFA is deeper than any of the individual PT films when you compare film to film.

This whole interaction has brought me immeasurable joy…carry on.

imperialscum said:
Well I would be interested in something alternative like that… but unfortunately majority of the intended audience likes popcorn stuff like TFA and such film would not sell.

You could say that SW and ROTJ are pretty much popcorn films too. I don’t think there is anything wrong with that. Star Wars are fun space movies with a bit of depth to them and that’s all you need to make a good one.

imperialscum said:

I can’t really imagine an Obi-Wan film set after ROTS without them making up any ridiculous stuff. Sonce he should have been living on Tatooine foe the entire time, I don’t think many would be interested in slice-of-life on Tatooine type of film.

They could just have the plot be about Obi-Wan protecting a settlement from criminals and/or Tusken Raiders or something.

Am I the only one who thought the pacing wasn’t too fast? The scene with Rey and Finn lasts a couple of minutes then Han and Chewie show up and they talk for a few minutes more then later in the film we get to Maz’s castle and that part of the film was slow too until the First Order shows up. Then there are the Hux, Kylo and Snoke scenes which are slow as well. The only part of the film that is too fast for me is the 3rd act but in general the 3rd act wasn’t as strong as the other 2.

And most people liked Ewan as Obi-Wan so I wouldn’t be surprised if they went through with it.

And in terms of Luke’s story it’s what the entire trilogy had been leading up to. Just with the rest of the 3rd act felt that way.

HansiG said:

John Doom said:

As a movie, typical modern “blockbuster”, but well made: 7/10
As a SW film, could’ve used more originality: 6/10

thx for breaking the chain

Well it’s not like he hated the movie…

MalàStrana said:
Finn is a black dude who deserts his masters

There have been plenty of people of different nationalities throughout history who have defected from whatever faction they held to be true until they saw otherwise.

his main job was toilet cleaner

That was only his job when he was stationed on SKB

who gets a new name thanks to a white man

Oscar is from Guatemala. Also The First Order gave him the name FN-2187 and Poe gave him the name Finn as a way to acknowledge as a fellow human being/sentient.

who drinks the same water as an animal

It’s not like he was forced to by the First Order; he does it because he had a long walk through the desert and pretty much did it for survival.

and who gets beaten by Rey because he’s accused of having stolen the jacket of a white man

Supposed thievery would be bad no matter the nationality.

by a white ginger droïd

Are you serious?

darthrush said:
I forgot to mention ROTJ. I think ROTS Fanedited is barely superior.

I would agree had ROTS Fanedited had a scene as powerful as when Luke snapped on Vader or when Vader killed Palpatine.

Pretty great 8.2/10

darthrush said:

TFA and ROTS fan edited are very close. I used to rank TFA just below probably because I had quite the hype. After watching the blu Ray Iv gotta put TFA barely above Fanedited RoTS.

I’d say LOE v1 is comparable to ROTJ (theatrical) which is #4 on my list. I wouldn’t put it on the same level of ESB, TFA, or SW but that’s just me.

MalàStrana said:
edit: tell your padawan is not up to the task. By far…

I don’t even know what that means

TV’s Frink said:

Still waiting…

Get used to it

In light of that info I’ll pass on that

I don’t blame you

Sorry we have to put you through this son…Star Wars is grown up business.

TV’s Frink said:
There was nothing to indicate you weren’t.

The “lol” should have sufficed

Whats the point? It always ends the same way.

ZkinandBonez said:
What an odd thing thing to argue against.
This is like one of the most subjective things imaginable, so why bother?

I’m…not even being serious

TV’s Frink said:

And once again I’m reminded why there are no women on the internet.

And suddenly I feel like Jimmy Mcnulty

MalàStrana said:
Only to be beaten by the emptiness of pro-TFA arguments 😄

Arguments that often end in favor of the pro-TFA people 😉