LexX

So, a question. When Luke sees Han & Leia in pain, Yoda says “decide you must how to serve them best…” etc. Is this Yoda’s psychology to not have Luke meet Vader yet, even if it means the death of Luke’s friends? He says he doesn’t see if they die. But if they did, why would you say that you have to decide if to help your friends or let them die? Why would it matter, if Luke “destroys all for what they have fought and suffered” if he was to save his friends from death, isn’t that worth it? If Luke hadn’t gone, do you think Han and/or Leia would have died if Vader didn’t get what he wanted? What do you think?

In my country they showed the 2011 BD edition. There was a thread about this back then where people chimed in. That was 3 years ago of course, there would be no reason to show the inferior version again.

timdiggerm said:

LexX said:

timdiggerm said:

LexX said:

timdiggerm said:

Hard to pirate without a source.

There is a lot of sources for Disney owned films, 4K, BD, DVD, VHS and film. If they never made any physical releases ever again, all of these sources become more attractive to collectors and their prices would rise. Lets say, 50 or 100 years from now they haven’t released anything… can you imagine how much would e.g. classic Disney cartoons cost on the secondary market? Probably hundreds if not thousands of dollars per movie, all which they would lose. Even today there have been DVDs that command hundreds of dollars on the secondary market because they have not seen a re-release since.

All true, but irrelevant to non-collectors (ie most people)

But not to Disney when they could get some of that money by relesing their properties. Also one could argue that there are others than collectors who would like to own Disney classics in the future as well, that is normal families.

I feel like the fact that they’re stopping maybe indicates you’re overestimating the size of the collector market

I’m not talking about this moment but the future when this kind of decision (if there is one) has an actual effect.

timdiggerm said:

LexX said:

timdiggerm said:

Hard to pirate without a source.

There is a lot of sources for Disney owned films, 4K, BD, DVD, VHS and film. If they never made any physical releases ever again, all of these sources become more attractive to collectors and their prices would rise. Lets say, 50 or 100 years from now they haven’t released anything… can you imagine how much would e.g. classic Disney cartoons cost on the secondary market? Probably hundreds if not thousands of dollars per movie, all which they would lose. Even today there have been DVDs that command hundreds of dollars on the secondary market because they have not seen a re-release since.

All true, but irrelevant to non-collectors (ie most people)

But not to Disney when they could get some of that money by relesing their properties. Also one could argue that there are others than collectors who would like to own Disney classics in the future as well, that is normal families.

timdiggerm said:

Hard to pirate without a source.

There is a lot of sources for Disney owned films, 4K, BD, DVD, VHS and film. If they never made any physical releases ever again, all of these sources become more attractive to collectors and their prices would rise. Lets say, 50 or 100 years from now they haven’t released anything… can you imagine how much would e.g. classic Disney cartoons cost on the secondary market? Probably hundreds if not thousands of dollars per movie, all which they would lose. Even today there have been DVDs that command hundreds of dollars on the secondary market because they have not seen a re-release since.

The less they release, the more they will be losing due piracy. Eventually they will see it.

Updated:

1. Crusade
2. Raiders
3. Temple
4. Dial
5. Skull

DOD’s plot was absolutely ridicilous if you stop to think about it to the point it doesn’t even make sense. But it was fine as an entertainment piece and not very boring, in many ways better than Doom. But yeah, Indy’s just too old and the film was 30min too long.

While there are a lot of things gone wrong after the purchase (like, 0 good new movies), there have been some gone right. For example I don’t think we would have gotten all the 80s spin-offs in HD. And I really disliked where SW was at around 2010. There were stupid Robot Chicken, Family Guy etc. parodies and the IP was starting to be a laughing stock with no new sensible material since the last film. Even though it is also one of the reasons I hate Disney, but at least it respects their IPs and don’t let them go through the mud.

Man, I remember that guy… There was a CCG card on him. I bought a lot of Cloud City packs when I found a place 20 years ago still selling them. A blast from the past.

DVD-BOY said:
the 10th anniversary of The Force Awakens.

Damn…

WookieeWarrior77 said:

Has anyone heard those rumours of Disney being so bankrupt now they’re considering selling back? HIGHLY doubt that would happen but I’ve seen some articles on it.

How can they be bankrupt if they own half the movies these days and are making billions a year?

In 1997 and after there were many SW references when the Special Editions came out and SW was all over the place again. For example Mark Hamill played himself in 3rd Rock from the Sun which probably came that year.

Fang Zei said:

ThatPixarGuy said:

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

ThatPixarGuy said:

I’m seeing a 40th anniversary screening with some family and friends on Saturday. The theatrical cut would be preferable of course, but I’m just happy to see a good Star Wars film in theaters haha.

Was it ever clarified why Empire’s 40th anniversary screenings used the 2011 Blu-ray rather than the more recent 2019 transfer? Hopefully that won’t be the same case here…

Yes, I was just wondering this. Once you see it, could you let us know which version it is?

Sure!

The only thing that would really give it away is the color timing, as the 2011 and 2019 versions are basically otherwise identical.

The opening logos are different as well.

If the saga had continued immediately back then then it makes sense that either Han or Lando should’ve died depending on what the plans were for Episode VII (Luke finding his real sister and starting to find Jedi etc.). But as it was clear they wanted to finish the story then I don’t think anyones death was necessary to get a happy ending.

I haven’t listened to any D+ soundtracks but I’ll have to give Andor a go. It was pretty interesting but I have to listen to it separately.

From what I’ve watched…

1. Droids
2. The Mandalorian
3. Rebels
4. Andor
5. Clone Wars
6. Obi-Wan Kenobi
7. The Book Of Boba Fett
8. Ewoks
9. The Clone Wars (watched only maybe 2 seasons and I don’t remember any of it)

benduwan said:

all from the ot

Besides pretty much this, I really enjoyed the Solo soundtrack which is my favorite from the Disney films. The only pieces I didn’t like were the weird tribal tracks for those bad guys whose name I don’t remember anymore. Haven’t seen the film since 2018. Otherwise the music is very adventurous and captures the SW feel.

CarboniteSolo said:

They should add the unaltered original trilogy to their streaming platform and promote it to Star Wars fans that you can only watch it exclusively on Disney+

I mean if they wanted more people to join, that would be a way to do it.

Those things would also appear on torrents before you could say GOUT.

Broadcasted, yes. I doubt it was P&S though, just cropped from the sides… I haven’t done any research on this but does anyone even do 16:9 P&S?

I think the only character that annoys me in the OT is Salacius B. Crumb. It’s just a completely unnecessary character.

I’m not going by these thread rules, IMO Jar Jar and Anakin are the most annoying in the PT. In the ST most characters are, LOL. Rose must be at the top but not far behind are Finn, Hux, Holdo… Who else were there… Every creature on Luke’s island. Poe and Rey have many moments as well. Ugh, I really don’t like those movies when I’m thinking about them.

Edit: and I can’t leave Solo out, that droid must be the most annoying character ever in SW. In R1… I don’t think anyone annoyed me as a character, more how the film was pieced together and what scenes were left in etc. The film is a bit dull to even annoy. Well, I guess you could say that CGI Tarkin and Leia annoyed me a bit because they looked fake.

Doesn’t machete skip E1?

Marooned Biker Scout said:

As a kid I used to often wonder what happened to any of the rebel soldiers left behind on Hoth. The ones out in the battle vs the walkers that the Empire didn’t or couldn’t find, or hiding in the base, or out on patrol elsewhere. And who didn’t have a rebel transport or ship to leave the planet sometime later.

Anyone know of any good EU/Legends or fan stories on this?

Good or not, two come to mind. Marvel comic #78 is a classic one. Then later, in the game Jedi Academy you go on a mission to Hoth after ROTJ. I don’t really remember what actually happened in either of them but as a Hoth fan I appreciated these when I encountered them.

fmalover said:

The Blues Brothers is hailed as one of the greatest comedy movies of all time, but when I watched the whole movie one night at no point of the movie did I even chuckle. Seriously? This is considered one of the greatest comedies of all time?

Same here.

I’d say all of them as they were in the medal ceremony (Luke looks even better without his jacket). Leia’s slave outfit is a tie for her though, and Bespin gown isn’t bad either.

Omni said:

Emre1601 said:

+2 for the cinema.

Did they show Empire at the cinemas for the 40th anniversary in the end with Covid going on?
 

It would be fantastic to see this on the big screen again:

but I would reluctantly settle for watching one of the later “Special Edition” versions at the cinema if that was our only choice.

ESB had a drive-in run in 2020, IIRC. It was the new 2019 Special Editions.

In my country they showed it for several weeks during summer since no new movies were coming in. And it was only the 2011 SE. It was like watching a Youtube video on a top3 biggest screens here.