If the saga had continued immediately back then then it makes sense that either Han or Lando should’ve died depending on what the plans were for Episode VII (Luke finding his real sister and starting to find Jedi etc.). But as it was clear they wanted to finish the story then I don’t think anyones death was necessary to get a happy ending.
I haven’t listened to any D+ soundtracks but I’ll have to give Andor a go. It was pretty interesting but I have to listen to it separately.
From what I’ve watched…
all from the ot
Besides pretty much this, I really enjoyed the Solo soundtrack which is my favorite from the Disney films. The only pieces I didn’t like were the weird tribal tracks for those bad guys whose name I don’t remember anymore. Haven’t seen the film since 2018. Otherwise the music is very adventurous and captures the SW feel.
They should add the unaltered original trilogy to their streaming platform and promote it to Star Wars fans that you can only watch it exclusively on Disney+
I mean if they wanted more people to join, that would be a way to do it.
Those things would also appear on torrents before you could say GOUT.
Broadcasted, yes. I doubt it was P&S though, just cropped from the sides… I haven’t done any research on this but does anyone even do 16:9 P&S?
I think the only character that annoys me in the OT is Salacius B. Crumb. It’s just a completely unnecessary character.
I’m not going by these thread rules, IMO Jar Jar and Anakin are the most annoying in the PT. In the ST most characters are, LOL. Rose must be at the top but not far behind are Finn, Hux, Holdo… Who else were there… Every creature on Luke’s island. Poe and Rey have many moments as well. Ugh, I really don’t like those movies when I’m thinking about them.
Edit: and I can’t leave Solo out, that droid must be the most annoying character ever in SW. In R1… I don’t think anyone annoyed me as a character, more how the film was pieced together and what scenes were left in etc. The film is a bit dull to even annoy. Well, I guess you could say that CGI Tarkin and Leia annoyed me a bit because they looked fake.
Doesn’t machete skip E1?
As a kid I used to often wonder what happened to any of the rebel soldiers left behind on Hoth. The ones out in the battle vs the walkers that the Empire didn’t or couldn’t find, or hiding in the base, or out on patrol elsewhere. And who didn’t have a rebel transport or ship to leave the planet sometime later.
Anyone know of any good EU/Legends or fan stories on this?
Good or not, two come to mind. Marvel comic #78 is a classic one. Then later, in the game Jedi Academy you go on a mission to Hoth after ROTJ. I don’t really remember what actually happened in either of them but as a Hoth fan I appreciated these when I encountered them.
The Blues Brothers is hailed as one of the greatest comedy movies of all time, but when I watched the whole movie one night at no point of the movie did I even chuckle. Seriously? This is considered one of the greatest comedies of all time?
Same here.
I’d say all of them as they were in the medal ceremony (Luke looks even better without his jacket). Leia’s slave outfit is a tie for her though, and Bespin gown isn’t bad either.
+2 for the cinema.
Did they show Empire at the cinemas for the 40th anniversary in the end with Covid going on?
It would be fantastic to see this on the big screen again:
but I would reluctantly settle for watching one of the later “Special Edition” versions at the cinema if that was our only choice.
ESB had a drive-in run in 2020, IIRC. It was the new 2019 Special Editions.
In my country they showed it for several weeks during summer since no new movies were coming in. And it was only the 2011 SE. It was like watching a Youtube video on a top3 biggest screens here.
Man, it’s already 3 years from TESB’s 40th anniversary? The time does fly… I doubt they are showing this in theatres but one can hope. It is the only movie from the OT I haven’t seen on a big screen.
My personal canon are:
Probably forgot something but basically most good stuff surrounding the OT without any PT or Disney tarnishing.
I couldn’t care less about “Lucas canon” and so should everyone, that’s my point.
But he clearly cares, and that’s my point. It’s fine to have an opinion on what’s the “best” version, but the OP came in with a clear request, and I responded accordingly. You can’t expect to just force everyone to have the same taste that you do.
Clearly? He’s looking for a fan edit. He said he didn’t want Disney stuff and to my knowledge 1997 is GL’s official version as well, so not sure what your problem is. If I was forcing my taste then I wouldn’t recommend any SE version at all, I haven’t seen those in over 10 years. So stop dissing others’ opinion if they differ from your own. Thank you.
If all you want removed is the “Noooo”, then you should probably track down the 2004 DVD version. Vader’s line was added to the movie for the 2011 Blu-ray release. There are some other changes in that version too, but none of them are as noticeable as Vader’s “Noooo”.
While this is true, I’d rather go with the 1997 Special Edition if the SE is what you want.
But there are way more changes introduced in the 2004 edition then there are in the 2011 version, so if the OP wants an experience that’s as close to the “official” version as possible, I think 2004 is the way to go. For example, Hayden doesn’t show up in the 1997 version, and given how much the OP seems to be an adherent to Lucas canon, that would probably be a big sticking point for them.
I know, which is why I said what I said. Not sure what you mean by “offical” as they all are official, some are just better than others… I couldn’t care less about “Lucas canon” and so should everyone, that’s my point.
If all you want removed is the “Noooo”, then you should probably track down the 2004 DVD version. Vader’s line was added to the movie for the 2011 Blu-ray release. There are some other changes in that version too, but none of them are as noticeable as Vader’s “Noooo”.
While this is true, I’d rather go with the 1997 Special Edition if the SE is what you want.
No, it was still Lucasfilm, but with new management.
Not sure I’m liking this future… 😦
Believe it or not, Lucas was pretty hands-off, not directing them.
Whaaa? So did Fox make the movies by themselves?
Did GL direct all of them? Did any of them have CGI gophers? Are X-XII in the pipeline?
Nope.
I assume the title should say ‘before the prequels were made’, and if so, then yes, I did. An amphibious creature seems at home in a marsh. That is not to say that he never left Dagobah, but I still can’t see a nature-loving person like Yoda feeling at home on Coruscant or in charge of the entire Jedi Order.
Neither Vader nor the Emperor seem to even suspect that Yoda had a hand in training Luke, so it feels very much like Yoda was solidly in retirement for hundreds of years before the events of the prequels, and his training Obi-wan was probably a quiet, spiritual affair much like Luke being drawn to Dagobah in the OT.
In the ROTJ novel, and then probably in earlier drafts as well, Palpatine finds out that Yoda trained Luke. It doesn’t matter in the film so luckily it’s cut, but based on that they knew him.
I don’t remember Yoda being amphibious.
I didn’t think Dagobah was his homeworld, nor did I think he would be living on Coruscant either. But it was clear that he used to be somewhere else training Jedi for 800 years, not in a swamp. For me it always looked like he was just hiding in “a strange place to find a Jedi master”.
Technically in the lore, Orcs are a variety of Elves, and some Orcs such as the Uruk-Hai are Orcs bred with Goblin-men, and all of these races can breed with humans. Elrond is only half-elven, for example. They’re all people, and technically all variations of humans due to that ability to interbreed.
As for how they are portrayed, yes there are plenty of Orcs of all skin colors in the movies and the show:
The point is that clearly you don’t care what skin color these people are regardless of where they come from, so my point stands. Why does skin tone homogeneity matter to the heroes but not to the villains?
Yeah, that is said in the films also. But they have somehow created them with evilness, who knows how.
To your last point: I have never said that, again stop putting words into my mouth. I haven’t talked about villains at all. And speaking of their skin color, none of it is real, it’s all makeup. There are no orcs who are just black or white people with eye lenses, so your suggestive posts are just trying to stir the pot for the sake of it. There is nothing between the lines.
And those that are nauseatingly railing against “wokeness” seem to have no issue with the actor other than that they are black. That’s not good enough. You seem distracted by a perceived agenda behind casting a non-white person, when really you should ask yourself “why not cast a non-white person?”
People with darker skin are affected by the Sun on Earth and the darker you are the closer you live to the Equator, that’s just how it has happened through evolution. How in the hell do you explain dark-skinned dwarfs who live inside mountains hardly at all seeing a Sun? They should be whiter than regular men. And don’t give any “it’s a fantasy world” answer… It is based on cultures on Earth.
So the many dark-skinned Orcs in in the books, movies, and show, who spent much of their lives in caves and avoided the sun whenever possible lived lives…closer to the equator basking in the sun? I can’t recall a single person ever being brought out of the story by this curiosity, and I don’t see any reason why other peoples of Middle Earth should be held to a different standard.
Unless, of course, you think that the Forces of Evil are the only ones expected to be multicultural in Tolkien’s world. Which is a…hell of a take.
Orcs don’t look like humans to me, unlike Dwarfs and Hobbits and Men who seem to be fantasy sub-races of humans. And aren’t they mostly dark green. I’m not even sure how they breed, if they came from inside the ground or what… I’m not that into the lore. IIRC there were darker skinned Men who came from the south of the Middle-Earth which seems natural of course, while the north was more whiter, as it is, and the stories happen to happen there. Not sure what is the problem with that, that’s how Earth was thousands of years.
And don’t try to put words into my mouth to make your hell of a takes. I could make one similarly, are you saying that Orcs look like non-white people to you when suggesting this kind of comparison?
And those that are nauseatingly railing against “wokeness” seem to have no issue with the actor other than that they are black. That’s not good enough. You seem distracted by a perceived agenda behind casting a non-white person, when really you should ask yourself “why not cast a non-white person?”
People with darker skin are affected by the Sun on Earth and the darker you are the closer you live to the Equator, that’s just how it has happened through evolution. How in the hell do you explain dark-skinned dwarfs who live inside mountains hardly at all seeing a Sun? They should be whiter than regular men. And don’t give any “it’s a fantasy world” answer… It is based on cultures on Earth.
