Hmm never imagined they'd be different. Yes, I'd like to see the whole scene, please. Can you post them here?
TV's Frink said:
You think New Mexico is hard to embed, you should try Idaho!
Looks like it works.
Just call it Starfox 64 and be done with it.
stretch009 said:
Asaki said:
darth_ender said:
With Disney owning LFL would it be more possible to get a release of the Lost Cut?
The same Disney that will never ever release The Thief and the Cobbler, and the same Disney that closed LucasArts and cancelled The Clone Wars?
.........maybe!
You forgot Song of the South.
And the uncut version of Fantasia.
In fact, screw the meme thread!
I'll be preserving it. I'm a sucker for authenticity.
thxita said:
Leonardo said:
My only worry is if we actually inherited this text from the 1997 version.
More than likely, if you think that nobody saw the subs until 1997 (except in the theatrical version of 1977)
If we have, we can at least hope not much of it was changed. Remember the 1997 crawl? There ILM reused the same text, and just changed "aeronave stellare" to "aeronave spaziale".
My only worry is if we actually inherited this text from the 1997 version.
Again, unless we find actual film proof we'll never know.
Which reminds me, some days ago I actually saw a blog post where it said the blogger had just* sold a 16 mm full lenght italian print. I would give my right kidney just to look at it.
*JEDIT: I mean at the time the post was written, a couple of years ago at least.
Yeah, I noticed, but it does give you the time to read.
Incidentally, as I said I never found any reference for these subtitles, but every srt file I've found since way back when seems to agree on the wording, so this is supposedly the original translation, at least.
I have no idea what's on the SE releases...
Bingowings said:
I've had a few.
Floating sensation. Face up on the ceiling. Seeing my own body.
Tom Baker style slitscan time vortex.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DjlLIQ40WQ&feature=youtu.be&t=2m43s
Oh, Ender...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yRL1ZSYTWE&feature=youtu.be&t=2m39s
thxita said:
... So I'm glad you can work out the correct proportions from that shameful 1991 VHS.
That was the fun part! ;P
Start planning your May 4 screening/party!
If my calculations are correct, everything goes right and there's no delays, this is gonna hit the web sooner than expected.
Bingowings said:
Feel that rhythm, dig that rhyme, it's an Uncle Sam sock and it's party time!
Or is it Ken's Revenge?
And here is Laserschwert's reconstruction of the opening sequence:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3Wlp4clLq4dODdEZVFNdURMMjQ/edit
I'm merely "following" the pattern.
As you may have guessed by reading the thread title, this project aims to preserve the Italian version of the Original Trilogy, starting with Star Wars (I don’t have the other films at the moment), and is directly inspired by the other foreign language projects “Preserving German Original Trilogy” and “Preserving French Original Trilogy” . As a matter of fact, much like those projects, this one features the work of Laserschwert, who has kindly done the opening sequence. I will be handling the Greedo subtitles and end credits. The project will of course use Harmy’s STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD REMASTERED as a base for the video. The final product will be synced to the italian Gout and audio from ,^…^,'s GUERRE STELLARI [OUT ruLes IT]: A NEW HOPE.
The reference for the italian title cards, crawl and end credits comes from a 1991 tape, which was donated by a very good friend of mine, whom has never seen any of the Star Wars movies, and as a birthday present he bought me the tape on Ebay.
Please forgive the badly photoshopped pics, as soon as I get my hands on a scanner I’ll release proper scans of the cover art and tape label.
The tape itself was in excellent condition. I suspect it had only been played a few times, if at all.
The vcr I used to play it is an old piece of junk, and the usb stick I captured it with is a new piece of junk.
The transfer job is… questionable. After an initial Fox Video disclaimer, the movie starts with the 4:3 20th Century Fox logo, and then cuts to the italian title cards for “Lucasfilm LTD” and “A long, long time ago” and they are stretched to 4:3. The crawl is both stretched and cropped by a considerable amount, and I was able to measure it by overlaying the starfield and matching it to Harmy’s version. I then passed the resulting video to Laserschwert who was able to recreate the sequence in HD.
Back to the tape, as soon as the letters fade in the distance, before the pan down to Tatooine and in the middle of the flute solo, the video cuts abruptly to a letterboxed master with pitched down audio. It’s incredibly jarring.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3Wlp4clLq4da1FET1REMmxPakE/edit?pli=1
The rest of the movie is like that, and has <span style=“text-decoration: underline;”>no Greedo subtitles</span>. So I’ll just have to guess as to placement and timing, basing it solely on the english version.
The end credits have no iris transition. There’s a cut right after Chewie growls and the audio goes back to its proper “PAL” pitch. The original italian end credits have a typo, which will be preserved for autenticity’s sake. It says : “Musiche di JOHN WILLIAMS <span style=“text-decoration: underline;”>esegaite</span> dalla London Symphony Orchestra”. It should be “eseguite”, of course, “esegaite” is not a word.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3Wlp4clLq4dUjQwQkdVSmRMSlE/edit?pli=1
I’ll be posting Laserschwert’s excellent opening sequence recreation in a little while, as soon as it finishes uploading on my Google Drive thingy.
More updates as soon as they come, I guess. Keep watching this space.
AntcuFaalb said:
I might just be weird, but I'd like to see a physically-robust format get popular for home video.
VHS tapes held up well against baby hands, baby slobber, baby teeth, etc.
Maybe something with a caddy, like CED...
Yes! I was just getting mad yesterday at my dad for how he handles dvds, thumbprints everywhere, it drives me nuts, and whenever there's a particle of dust I can't help it, I gotta clean it, so there you go, all scratched. People just treat dvds like shit. I want something that doesn't get ruined a nanosecond after you get it out of the case.
TV's Frink said:
Well _ender, I take pictures...photographic pictures.
Ooooh you like photography, eh? Snap snap, grin grin, wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more?
yeah, but i still don't get the point of the "live" I posted above. there's commitment to a joke and then there's ridiculousness... And I don't mean Frink's excellent prequels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGeMGqVKD6A
what?... er what?
....
wha.. what?
ok, i get that the "youtube closing" was the april fools joke, but how is this "live" (possibly/probably prerecorded) thing going on for 8 hours + now???
who's gonna fall for it?
like are they gonna broadcast for the whole 12 hours and then rick roll everybody? "gotcha! duuuuhhhhhh"
You get a decent clip show, probably.
Tell me, what happens to us in the future? Do we become assholes or something?
Just like Windows Millennium Edition was supposed to be better than Win98. But instead it was a crashing joke.