Lasz

READ!

yessir

I’d love an invite, if still possible.

Thanks!!

theMaestro said:

I also like version 1. Just wondering, is there some reference that’s used to determine what the “correct” colors are? Or is this kind of a whatever-seems-to-look-right approach? Not that there’s anything wrong with the latter, but I’m just wondering if my preference for how it looks lines up with how it actually used to look.

Absolutely zero reference has been used

Version 1:

Version 2:

Williarob’s:

TN1 1.6 screengrab:

@Williarob: Thanks for the file!

I already started working from a screen grab of your earlier posts and came up with these:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/184689

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/184691

They’re by no means perfect of course, just an indication. Pick your poison 😉

The first one is a slight deviation from yours; a bit lighter and warmer, while overall keeping the same balance in tone.

For the second one, I tried to match the tone of the noise and the color of the sand in the TN1 frame as best I could

P.s: how do I embed a picture from flickr inside a post? [img]https:image address.jpg[/img] doesn’t seem to work, I just get a link instead.

Williarob said:

Lasz said:

What strikes me is that the orange/brown noise in the shots is so prevalent that it becomes part of the overall color tone of the picture and I wonder if that wasn’t intentional. (not the noise, but the color) It gives the shots a bit of a sandy/desert-y look and frankly, I kinda like it. (maybe because that’s how I remember how the shots looked from VHS) But I also remember that they shot the desert scenes through a “panty hose filter” on the lens, which acts a bit like a color filter and which leads me to believe that might have been a deliberate choice for the color tone of the picture.

What I see in Williarob’s and Mike’s cleaned up shots is that by removing the dirt and noise, this color has also been taken completely out and left with a very clean, natural looking shot but I wonder if that’s how the shot’s actually supposed to look, color wise.

Good point. Perhaps something more like this is what they were going for?

rather than this:

Somewhere along those lines, but maybe not as intense.

Could you, by any chance, upload both pictures, TN1 version and cleaned up, so that I could have a go at it?

Thanks 😃

What strikes me is that the orange/brown noise in the shots is so prevalent that it becomes part of the overall color tone of the picture and I wonder if that wasn’t intentional. (not the noise, but the color) It gives the shots a bit of a sandy/desert-y look and frankly, I kinda like it. (maybe because that’s how I remember how the shots looked from VHS) But I also remember that they shot the desert scenes through a “panty hose filter” on the lens, which acts a bit like a color filter and which leads me to believe that might have been a deliberate choice for the color tone of the picture.

What I see in Williarob’s and Mike’s cleaned up shots is that by removing the dirt and noise, this color has also been taken completely out and left with a very clean, natural looking shot but I wonder if that’s how the shot’s actually supposed to look, color wise.

Han Frugrohl said:

Does anyone know if Mike showed his project to the executives?

I believe Mike had something planned near the end of the year if I’m not mistaken.

Darth Lucas said:

BrightestDayFan2814 said:

How Do I Download Star Wars 97 Se Flunk

Because I Never Download Before

Alright, listen carefully. You’re gonna need two goats, a volcano, and a virgin…

Looking at his picture, he’ll probably only need two goats and a volcano

tried usenet?

Hasn’t Mike stated that his pitch would probably be near the end of the year? Also, let’s not forget that Reliance Media Works has been working on a 4K version too, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they were showing that one.

bishabosha said:

What is this glitch? I cant get the framecount but its after the line “your sad devotion to that ancient religion hasnt helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes…” when the camera cuts,

taken from the 1.6 proper bluray release, its been there since 1.0

Looks like a color correction issue? there’s also some banding on the guy’s face

Guys, you are trashing Mike’s work on his own thread.

one can hope but the fact that it says “a new hope” and not “Star Wars” may give some indication…

Cobra Kai said:

I guess i missed something, but I’m still confused exactly why -1 or rogue1, or whoever they are, is opposed to this being released?

As far as I understand it, he started Team Negative 1, who released version 1.0, but due to some alleged misconduct by Negative1/Rogue1, the team disbanded and now some former members of that team are continuing the work without him. (shoot me if I’m wrong)

I for one, am VERY grateful for this release.

Wazzles said:

I’m poor.

some usenet providers offer one day subscriptions that cost about a dollar/euro

some may even offer free one day trials

Also: Rob, halleluja, you rock.

Williarob said:

and begin the lengthy rebuild process…

you have the technology.

BTW Rob, I think that little bit of sharpening you added to the bluray really helps to bring out all the detail without it looking artificial or overly sharpened in any way.

For those who are interested, something seems to have popped up again on the spleen…

Williarob said:

so I guess that is how it is on the laserdisc.

You might be right, I switched to the mono mix and the glitch isn’t there. The laserdisc audio also seems to have some other minor issues too, around 01:19:00 the audio seems to be slightly out of sync, but as you said, that’s probably just the way the laserdisc audio is…

But again, thanks and congratulations on this stunning release.

Williarob said:
Presumably that is in the mono mix?

media player is actually telling me it’s the stereo mix, so is Kodi.

all (very well deserved) praise aside, I did seem to notice a shot that looked like it got left out during the cleaning process. Around 00:09:45 when C-3PO says “what mission, what are you talking about?” it looks like 3PO’s head is being swarmed by flies (very splotchy dirt marks)

around 01:10:00 there’s an audio glitch when CPO says “that isn’t very reassuring” instead of the word “that” there’s a tiny piece of audio score from probably a different part of the film.

Haven’t checked the forums in a while since somehow I didn’t receive any more notifications in my mail even though I’ve subscribed to this thread.

And then I found out there was another version out of the SSE.

Williarob said:

(BD50 - you’re welcome)

Holy wow this looks awesome, thank you very much, you fine sir.

Williarob said:
at least a small step up in quality from the original release.

Methinks thou dost understate too much…

Williarob said:
Some people will still hate it,

they must be insane.

DrDre said:

Poita and Williarob both have a beta version of the color restoration tool I’ve developed. Hopefully they’ll be able to put it to good use. Here’s an example of what the tool can do to aid the process of restoring the colors of the red faded TESB print scan, that poita will be using for his restoration:

I am drooling

Darth Mallwalker said:

TN1’s ESB DCP 2013	2016-03-19 14:42:49 UTC	20150114.par2
TN1’s ESB Grindhouse 1080p BD	2016-02-28 00:14:03 UTC	20150112.par2
Star.Wars.1977.Silver.Screen.Edition.35mm.v1 (Repack) MKV version	2016-02-22 03:10:22 UTC	Star.Wars.1977.Silver.Screen.Edition.35mm.v1\ (Repack).par2
Silver.Screen.Edition.35mm.v1	2016-01-17 11:04:39 UTC	Silver.Screen.Edition.35mm.v1.par2
Star Wars 1977 Silver Screen Edition 35mm v1	2016-01-15 20:19:02 GMT	Star.Wars.1977.Silver.Screen.Edition.35mm.v1.torrent
The Empire Strikes Back 35mm - Deconstructed Workprint (version 0)	2015-05-17 10:14:55 GMT	ESB Deconstructed.torrent
Team Negative One ESB Deconstructed - Workprint version 0, 1080p	2015-03-14 22:21:10 UTC	team_negative1_esb_version0_workprint1080p.par2
Team Negative One ESB Deconstructed CC 720p	2015-03-14 21:39:56 UTC	empire_strikes_back_color_corrected_version01a.par2
35mm ESB 2013 Private Screening Edition	2015-01-14 21:46:12 GMT	ESB DCP 2013.torrent
Renegade Grindhouse ESB Bluray compatible ISO	2015-01-12 22:27:08 GMT	ESB_Grindhouse_1080p_BD_Compat.torrent
The Empire Strikes Back 35mm 1080p Renegade Grindhouse v1	2014-12-26 14:44:36 UTC	ESB_Grindhouse_1080p_BD25.par2
The Empire Strikes Back 35mm 720p Renegade Grindhouse v1	2014-12-26 13:42:17 UTC	ESB-Renegade-Grindhouse-v1-720p-DVD9.par2
The Empire Strikes Back 35mm 720p - Renegade Grindhouse v1	2014-12-25 17:59:25 GMT	ESB-Renegade-Grindhouse-v1-720p-DVD9.torrent
The Empire Strikes Back 35mm 1080p - Renegade Grindhouse v1	2014-12-25 14:58:48 GMT	ESB_Grindhouse_1080p_BD25.torrent

I couldn’t find any of these on usenet. am I missing something? The retention on my usenet provider is more than a year…