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How would you GOUT-sync the Grindhouse version without re-encoding it?

I think that’s pretty much what poita did all the time, right? Buying a print and then selling it off again afterwards, so there’s no money lost.

Actually it’s from a German TV broadcast back from the 90s, which still showed the OUT. So quality-wise it isn’t good enough to extract the subs. At least it was good enough to use them as a reference for timing, placement and formatting.

CatBus said:

Also, lack of an equivalent Jedi reference kinda bugs me about this

I’ve got German references for Jedi (and used them to re-create the subs for my German Jedi DeEd). It’s the same font that’s used in the English version.

thxita said:

Yeah… Don’t credit the guy that drove for four hours (and four more back) just to get a never-seen-before reference of such subtitles from the rarest 35mm screening ever!

I’m just kidding, don’t! Lol

Oh right! You took the photos at the Italian screening! I love how this community collaborates 😄

Have you thought about tackling the international Greedo subs as well? They used a mixed font based on Gill Sans and Johnston ITC, for which Leonardo created a custom font. I’ve used it in my German DeEd of SW. You can find the discussion starting here in the Italian DeEd thread.

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

That’s correct – now if I could only remember the name of the thread (?)

That would be Scofield:

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Scofield-version-SW-theater-recording/id/14077

I’ll vote for a sub-free version of the Greedo scene as well… Either as part of the lossless movie or as a separate download.

Not to mention “Der rasende Falke” in IV becoming “Der Millennium-Falke” in V and VI…

Somehow I liked the more “free” translations in IV a bit better.

Doctor M said:

That drop out and return with lower quality sounds like your bitrate dropped because of internet quality/traffic. You probably need to re-capture.

It was a TV broadcast, not an internet stream 😉

So no, it’s not bitrate related at all, it’s in the master they were broadcasting. It’s obvious that restoration on the second half of the movie wasn’t finished… it looks more filmic (grain and dirt are visible) , but unfortunately vertical resolution was lower, since it was vertically blurred (while horizontal res was still the full 1920 pixels). I’m not sure why they would even allow an unfinished master to be broadcasted, but I was hoping that the iTunes version (or the Amazon Instant Video version, which is also available in HD, as well as on VUDU at “HDX” quality) uses a “finished” master.

And yet the German voice actors more often than not are struggling with the “th” in “Darth”. So most of the time he’s “Dars Vader”.

C’mon, you did all the heavy lifting. Thanks so much for starting the Despecialized series in the first place 😃

Ich vermute vor allem, dass “Krieg der Sterne”-Logos vor dem Filmen Wunschdenken bleiben werden…

Doctor M said:

Some of those iTunes versions have been ripped. iTunes usually replaces their version when a new ‘restoration’ is done.
Unfortunately, the quality from digital compression makes these poor sources and not much better than DVD.

I have the “Sword in the Stone” iTunes rip, and it looks considerably better than the DVD (and doesn’t show that awful DNR of the Blu-ray). I’m especially looking for the 1080p version of “Pooh’s Grand Adventure: The Search for Christopher Robin”. I’ve managed to get it recorded from Cinemagic HD, and it looks actually really good. It’s been cropped to 1.6:1 and scrubbed of most noise, sure, but it’s nowhere near a DNR-mess like “Sword in the Stone” or “Mickey’s Christmas Carol” and it’s true HD instead of just an upscale. The weird thing is, around the 41 minute mark there’s a fade to black, and when it comes back on, the quality has dropped massively. No clean up, vertical resolution seems to be halved, mute colors… it’s as if they weren’t finished with the restoration (if you want to call it that).

Here are a few screengrabs from it: http://imgur.com/a/ZuDj6

The first six images are from before the quality drop, the last six from after the fade to black.

And that’s why I hope the iTunes HD version is “finished”, so I can at least replace the latter half of the movie with it (plus paint out the Cinemagic logo). Anybody?

Finishing the trilogy, we’re proud to present the complete German Die Rückkehr der Jedi-Ritter - Despecialized Edition 2.5!

Based on Harmy’s Return of the Jedi - Despecialized Edition 2.5 (once again, encoded from his lossless raw footage, all hail Harmy!) we‘ve tried to re-create the final chapter’s theatrical experience from December 1983 as good as we could. This includes a re-creation of the German opening titles plus crawl, as well as the Jabba and Boushh subtitles.

Again we’ve included a selection of several German audio tracks (Thanks again to cvs and J.J._McQuade for their help!), but this time it wasn’t as simple as using the GOUT’s audio track as the basis. The German GOUT track goes in and out of sync during the film, a problem which is not only part of the GOUT but also the Silverscreen Laserdisc release, which the GOUT uses. So to fix the sync issues, we’ve painstakingly edited and retimed a bit-perfect capture of the Silverscreen Laserdisc, now being synced up properly throughout the movie. With missing material re-inserted, this track now serves as the main audio track for the movie.

Joining the (now synced) 1993 Silverscreen LD audio, we’ve once again added the audio from the 1995 THX release, plus a 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio track edited from the 2011 Blu-ray. English 5.1 and 2.0 tracks (by hairy_hen) are also included, as well as an isolated music track containing John Williams’ Oscar-nominated score. Optional German and English subtitles were added as well, taken from Catbus’ Project Threepio.

Technical Specifications:

      FORMAT:   MKV  
        SIZE:   18.6GB  
       VIDEO:   1280x720p h.264 23.976 fps  
       AUDIO:   TRACK 1) 1983 2.0 @ 384 kbps [German]
                TRACK 2) 1993 SilverScreen LD 2.0 @ 384 kbps [German]   
                TRACK 3) 1995 THX LD 2.0 @ 384 kbps [German]  
                TRACK 4) 2011 Blu-ray 5.1 DTS-HD @ 768 kbps [German]  
                TRACK 5) 1983 5.1 DTS-HD @ 1536 kbps [English]  
                TRACK 6) 1983 2.0 DTS-HD @ 640 kbps [English]  
                TRACK 7) Isolated Score 2.0 @ 224 kbps
   SUBTITLES:   German, English

Screenshots:

The German Blu-ray-sized covers, labels and inserts can be downloaded HERE.

Does anybody here have the ability to record from the US iTunes in HD? There’s at least one Disney release (and probably more) in HD on iTunes, that never found their way to Blu-ray…

Paraphrasing me, but whatever 😉

kire1976 said:

thankyou sir!!!. is there a cover for this release?

Are you drunk?

LeeThorogood said:

Darth Lucas said:

AntcuFaalb said:

clutchins said:

Who has poita designated to work on them?

I’ve put a team together. We’re still working out the details.

Top. Men.

I’ve synced my German DeEd audio track to the TESB Grindhouse, so whoever wants it, feel free to PM me.

I assume this idea consists of people only painting clean up masks and collecting those for use with something like PFClean?

mverta said:

As for their edition looking amateur and pretty shitty, it does. So what?

_Mike

That makes me sad to read. I mean, come on, you’ve seen the stuff that’s been produced on this forums. So are you really going to compare “our” work (I’m not talking of Silver Screen per se, but OT-projects in general) to professional grade projects? We’re all learning, and trying to get better. Some do it better than others, and some make themselves more enigmatic than others, but in the end this is just a forum full of amateur projects. So you could just as well crap all over the other projects on this forum as well.

I agree with Stinky… if you’re allowed to use the Tech scan, fucking do it!

jolennon said:

EDIT: BTW, there’s a better, 10 mbps version at a certain spleen 😉

Under what name? I can’t find it there…

Edit: never mind, found it.

Jabba’s '97-tail is visible during the '04-wipe.