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Harmy said:

Well, apparently, Encore doesn't support adding more than 8 audio tracks, so I'm gonna have to use something else to author the BD - I think I'll try MultiAVCHD but I find it a bit confusing.

I'm still sticking to Encore for the Blu-ray, but on the other hand we're filling the disc to the brim with bonus material, so there's no room left for more audio tracks anyway.

Still, IF you find a decent way to create both custom disc and pop-up menus in MultiAVCHD, be sure to let us know.

skywalker89 said:

timdiggerm said:

AntcuFaalb said:

skywalker89 said:

Why not creating a Bonus-Disc with deleted scenes, like there is mostly one to every movie?

Here's an idea: Do it yourself and then you can share it with us.

The best reply ever? Possibly!

johnlocke2342 said:

The Jabba scene doesn't belong in it, either with the actor or the CGI Jabba even if it was originally shot with the actor.

If you were making a traditional "Deleted Scenes" collection for the 1977 George Lucas film Star Wars, the Declan Mulholland as Jabba scene would certainly be appropriate. It was shot along with the rest of the film, intended to be part of the film, and then excised from the film before release. That's the definition of a deleted scene, so it should definitely be included on a separate Bonus Disc, as skywalker09 suggested.

Thanks to those who stand by my idea! But I have no material to reconstruct the Jabba scene, only a DVD-Transfer of the 1997 German Laserdisc, the bad reconstruction in the youtube version, the official DVD and Blu Ray and the UK VHS "From Star Wars to Jedi".

If someone could send me all existing material from the scene with Declan Mulholland, in the best available quality, that would be great.

I would try to made a better reconstruction with the apple program "Final Cut Pro 7", but first someone have to send me the material.

I would try to make it like Harmy described how he made his reconstruction in this Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHfLX_TMduY

And still, it has NOTHING to do with THIS project. Go and create a separate thread.

skywalker89 said:

Harmy said:

Plus it has nothing to do with this project.

Nothing to do with the project?

That is correct.

Looks like working on fan preservations isn't good enough a contribution to get something back ;)

Actually I'm not even sure if there are German credits for TESB and ROTJ... but yeah, for the English version the GOUTs will do. Can anybody upload the credits of both of them?

Since I'm gonna need the credits for TESB and ROTJ anyway (unlike SW the German versions of those still had the English credits), I can recreate them. If someone has proper captures of the VHS releases to use as templates ;)

Those colors look fantastic! I'm really looking forward to a 1080p version of this to play around with.

Yeah, chromatic aberration is WAY too wide on the last two shots.

Sorry for hijacking this thread, but it's kinda related to the topic anyway: I remember Harmy getting some help from people spreading his download links to more hosters, torrents and the likes. I'm looking for some people to spread the German DE 2.5 (only the MKV for now). I already got help uploading it to usenet, but it would be good to get it to some more places. Any help is much appreciated - you can PM me.

Looking good!

What exactly does a wetgate do? Cover up scratches through liquid refraction?

But these are "e-books" with multi media features like video and pictures inlcuded. The usual suspects of e-book formats like epub or mobi (which is pretty much an older version of epub) are based on HTML and not designed to contain video material and are already struggling with just displaying images properly. So I'm pretty sure these are more like completely self-contained "apps" - hopefully not just for Apple devices.

Maybe Puggo has a way to scan at least a few shots of his 16mm TESB at HD resolution? How about Poita? After all the 16mm version is probably the best source we have for TESB right now (apart from Neg1's 35mm version).

Is there any downside for hosting on Mega? Download always seem to go full speed, as do uploads.

imperialscum said:

Well they used the scans from 1997 for both DVD and Blu-Ray release (that is scans with added changes). I guarantee you that they didn't scan and restore it again in 2011.

Of course they didn't restore it in 2011, that's what a lot of us are complaining about. The DID restore it in 2004 though, and as Lowry stated, that restoration was never meant for anything higher than DVD resolution. And unfortunately it shows in a lot of the shots. So...

imperialscum said:

And if you look at the picture quality of Blu-Ray release you can get the idea that the scans were high quality. :)

... I would argue with that.

msycamore said:

The '97 SE work was partly done in 2K whereas the new scan in 2004 was done in 1080p.

Just a reminder, 2K and 1080p is pretty much the same resolution.

The SE was shown in cinemas though, so the SE changes were created a higher resolution. ;)

That being said though, back in 1997 I don't think scanning 35mm was done at anything higher than 1080p. Given that 1080p wasn't even a standard back then (and considered how "low res" digitally scanned shots from the 90s looked - see Jurassic Park, Forrest Gump, etc.), I doubt that the OT-scans done for the SE are existing in a format that's rivaling modern Blu-rays quality-wise.

Posted (and made) this a while ago already:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQgvoQ9NEqU

FreaQ said:

I assume you just did not slow down the audio but also corrected the pitch?

I slowed down the audio, thus the pitch got lower, which resulted in the correct pitch.

The only SE line that's still in there is Han's German "Yes, I bet you have.", which was re-recorded for the SE. As far as I know there weren't any other lines changed in the SE. So yes, the DTS track contains only theatrical lines, apart from Han's line to Greedo.

The rest of the remaining SE stuff is a sound effect here and there and some imperfect music or background sound transitions where I had to remove SE additions (and where EditDroid's 5.1 track didn't help fixing it).

That being said, the other three German tracks (GOUT, 1993, 1995) were ALL out of sync to each other AND Harmy's video track as well. I've edited them all to be as in-sync as possible to the video track, so I don't think it's noticable.

@TK-949: So I assume you have a template for the trailer? Is it at 24fps, or sped up to PAL speed? I'd love to take a shot at it...

ilovewaterslides said:

Don't pay attention, this dude is probably a tool. You show him the proof that there is absolutely NO differences between 720p and 1080p for this release and he still can't take this obvious fact, plus he's acting like an arrogant and doesn't show any respect for Harmy's incredible work.

What the fuck? Can YOU please try to not act like an asshole? It was a simple request, and I can fully understand him reacting the way he did. He asked for 1080p, you offered him Harmy's version, he said it's only 720p and then you started lecturing him. What the hell? Also he's not some "dude" or "tool", as he's been a member here for a long time and helped me with several video and audio aspects of the German Despecialized version. So you guys should chill the fuck out!

Also, getting back to topic, Adywan released a color corrected 1080p version: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/THE-STAR-WARS-SAGA-1080P-AVCHD-DVD-9-for-PS3-Blu-Ray-players-Episodes-1-4-5-available-now/topic/9536/

It's compressed for AVCHD, so I don't know if it suits your needs.

Yes, English subtitles (and audio) will be included. The GOUT-based soundtrack is probably the one closest to the theatrical version, while the DTS track of course has the best quality.

Multi-angle-type MKVs (actually it's more like playlists) are still relatively tricky to pull off and not supported by all players, so it's kinda pointless doing it, if it won't work for everyone. Multi-angle or seamless-branching Blu-rays are very complicated as well, not to mention that only some of the more complex authoring tools support it. I'm using Adobe Encore, which doesn't even support it for DVDs, so that's not going to happen for the time being.

For now it will have only German titles.

Dunedain said:

So, this video you are releasing will be the new 2.5 restored Blu-ray version of Star Wars from Harmy

Yes, but it includes German title cards, the recreated German theatrical crawl, German Greedo subs (recreated to look like in the german theatrical version), the German end credits (recreated based on the VHS end credits) and German Despecialization credits.

Dunedain said:

combined with a German 2 channel stereo Laserdisk soundtrack or is it the 2006 GOUT PAL DVD German 2 channel stereo soundtrack you are using?

I'm using a total of four different German audio tracks:

- the German 2006 GOUT PAL audio track (stereo), fixed to contain missing lines, sound effects and music cues.

- the German 1993 SilverScreen Laserdisc audio track (stereo)

- the German 1995 THX Laserdisc audio track (stereo)

- the German 2011 Blu-ray audio track, edited to fit the Despecialization, removing as many SE additions as possible (sadly not all of them). This track comes in DTS-HD Master Audio.

Dunedain said:

Since the 18 Gig video will be playable on Blu-ray set top hardware players, I assume the video is not in PAL format, but standard HD

The MKV is, just like Harmy's release, at 720p HD resolution.

Dunedain said:

the Blu-ray disk will play on U.S. Blu-ray machines?

Since I'm not using any region code on the disc, it can be played on all Blu-ray players (as long as they play burned BD-Rs).

Dunedain said:

Also, has the German soundtrack been slowed down from PAL to it's normal theatrical speed (which is the same as NTSC soundtrack speed) to match the non-PAL HD video Harmy has made?

Yes.

A_New_Hope said:

Here's a single link (mirrors welcomed) for Harmy's "Sources" Documentary at FULL RESOLUTION muxed with ALL of HanDuet's August 11, 2013 updated subs (available individually HERE):

Woah, the German subs in that are total crap. I guess I'll have to create better ones.