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- #1399599
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- The Last Jedi - Expanded Editon (Released!)
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Same here ! đ
Same here ! đ
v4 is good, although I prefer the less melancholy music, for what itâs worth, since I think the tone of the show is more in line with that one
Nice! The closeup of Phasma climbing up could stay though, no? I mean there is the continuity issue, but is there a way to make that work? And the shot of her falling into flames?
Well, thatâs true, it is less distracting. You mention in the other forum the potential inclusion of the Phasma scene. Now that would make this edit even more of a fine addition to my collection!
- these are probably just technical issues, but Reyâs âughâ modification, and the transition from the falcon back to Rey are imperfect
Could you elaborate on what is feeling weird to you? I know itâs sometimes hard to pinpoint.
Ok I just listened to it on speakers, and it works. When I first heard it on headphones, it felt like she just fades out at the end of the ugh. But eh
Alright well you gotta give me props for cutting out Yodaâs theme at least.
Oh, I didnât even notice! Good job đ
I have some more thoughts about the opening, even if your mind seems made up, I feel like I want to throw this in here. I get that they talk about Rey and so it should cut to Rey. Then they talk about the Falcon and it should cut to the Falcon. But, eh, I just donât feel it. Your crawl especially implies that the FO has a rebellion problem and they (and Kylo) want more resources. So here I am, watching the Exogol sequence through that lens, and they talk about Rey less in this cut, and then it makes sense to see what the rebels are up to. And, well, I just love the theatrical transition from Palpatine to the Falcon in hyperspace. Particularly the sound transition.
There, we wonder why Rey is not with them, and Poe even brings that up. Then we cut to Rey and sheâs training. It works better, pacing-wise, in my opinion, but maybe Iâm in the minority. I just think a shot of adrenaline at that point after the Palpatine intro works better than Rey meditating, but eh.
I think a lot of the confusion with the edits is alleviated through your cutting the force visions and mask assembly a lot differently from the theatrical - very good changes, by the way! I do feel like your usage of Reyâs lightning hand, while it works great in the vision, you sort of recognize that shot when that scene comes around and itâs like âoh, sheâs gonna lightning the transportâ. Maybe Iâm reading into it too much, since obviously I know that sheâs going to do that. Still, in theaters it felt shocking (no pun intended), while here itâs foreshadowed by the usage of that shot.
Exciting! Although interesting how youâre omitting unfinished cgi shots that ebumms used, but opt to use the âchompâ scene, which has unfinished cgi đ
Oh well, guess Iâll just have to watch this movie again to determine which version is better
Okay, so without anything better to do, I watched the workprint and wrote down some notes!
This movie has a problem with usage of music and I have some more notes about that:
While I donât think Ben should have gotten a ghost, since him not having one implies his state is different from that of Leia and Luke, like perhaps he lives in Rey or something, and Iâm split on which take of Rey Skywalker to use, otherwise your Tattoine epilogue is great!
I am waiting patiently to be able to see this in high video and audio quality!
I would also like to see it. Iâll give some feedback if necessary
extended exterior shot of ships flying in
Yes, thatâs another one! Iâve been able to fit that in quite well with my limited editing skills, but I sacrificed Wedgeâs cameo. I might post some clips of my takes on some of these extensions later.
Iâve wanted to see the TLJ extended version for a while just to see if the caretaker village scene is edited at all, I wanted to put that one back in but the unfinished running VFX ruins it. Itâs a shame thereâs so many great unfinished scenes out there.
The lightsaber reflection, right? Yeah, the effect isnât completed in the extended edit either, but I donât really mind it
I like that it is after TRoS because everything is unknown. Anything can happen to anyone.
Yes exactly! While the New Republic era is interesting and all, there is already going to be enough material about that⌠I want to see what happens next.
Also, I hope that all this talk of it being post-TROS is not based on just that one sentence
I want to ask yâall whether anyone you know of has completed/attempted extended versions of these movies using the available deleted scenes. Hereâs what Iâve been able to find out so far:
The Force Awakens: There have been efforts to remove the timecodes present in the deleted scenes by members of this community that are admirable and very appreciated. I am wondering if anyone has put together an edit that reincorporates these scenes (with work done to remove the timecodes or without), and in addition doesnât put the Jakku Message scene in between Finnâs face reveal and Reyâs intro (thereâs a wonderful visual transition there from one face to another face that itâd be a shame to lose)
The Last Jedi: ebumms has a wonderful TLJ extended edit that is ifdb approved if I remember correctly⌠not everything is featured but considering the wealth of substantive deleted scenes released for that movie and the lack of any annoying black bar overlayed on the image (meaning the scenes are usable in fanedits without applying any sfx), it has been accomplished in my book, so thatâs settled.
The Rise of Skywalker: the reality is that 0 deleted scenes are available. With that said, certain faneditors on this forum have done marvelous work to extend certain sequences in service of a fanedit, e.g., Mustafar establishing shots conjured using volcano footage, forest footage and sfx (that looks very believable, mind you), reinstating some âsqueaky wheelâ shots from BtS footage, and some others. I am wondering whether anybody is interested in editing the movie purely with the aim of extending it with this kind of thing. I myself have put together such an edit (I also used the civilian fleet chatter you might have heard used in Halâs edit, double rainbow, alternate Rey Skywalker take, alternate final shot, and other things that I believe only contribute things to the film, as opposed to taking things out). However this kinda only exists as a proof of concept project in the video editor, as because of my current technical limitations, I am not able to export said edit, and I also used a source of inferior picture quality (my computer canât handle it otherwise), but I feel it can be done and it can be cool!
Thus, I am wondering whether this community is as interested in this concept of extended editions of the ST as I am.
Spinoff-prequel-spinoffs⌠As much as I like the sequels, it does feel now in retrospect like theyâve played that card perhaps too soon, because now the way forward seems to be for the most part to milk the OT era, with most of these live action shows being set either a couple years before the OT or a couple years after. And pretty much none of these are really âmain storyâ. If the sequels didnât exist (though Iâm glad they do), perhaps now would be time to move forward the main story in the Mando era, but their hands are kinda tied, arenât they? Like really, Iâm glad there will be something for almost everyone, but how much time can you spend telling stories within the same timeframe? This was the running joke a few years ago, but then they canceled a bunch of stuff, but now I guess every piece of furniture getting a prequel spinoff actually will be a thing!
I agree about a Rey series, but it seems they are distancing themselves from the sequel era after all⌠my heart cries at the lack of any word on a Rian Johnson trilogy/movie/series.
Yeah, I can do that. Iâll do so when I can sit down at the computer for a bit.
Great, Iâd also like to see that!
Pretty sure a female narrator reads Bloodline. Not sure if maybe something could be fished out
Iâm sure Marc Thompson is an excellent voice actor, but Iâm not so sure that would be the best way to go about this
Oh no, not about the episode!! About the removal of jeans guy, of course. Itâs a mistake/goof, and itâs out there, no need for revisionism⌠yet we all saw it coming, because thatâs Disney for ya
The episode was amazing. Even as someone who doesnât really care all that much about Clone Wars/Rebels, seeing Ahsoka was 100% worth the hype, and in general this show is gorgeous, loved the old samurai movie influence. I was also breathless when she mentioned Thrawn. I know weâve had new books with him, and Rebels, but hearing his name in live action star wars, post-ROTJ, right around the time Heir to the Empire takes place⌠it just hits different. I hope we get to see him
Thatâs right, the idea is heavily teased, but they do sort of have a (definitive?) falling out at the end, or at least it could be taken that way (wasnât, of course).
I remembered another one. People were saying that they sure hope that it gets explained where Lukeâs blue lightsaber came from in TFA. I knew right away that they werenât going to do that (in a movie), because it doesnât matter. Another another one, the snoke theories were crazy after TFA. Plagueis was one of the most popular ones, and I thought there was basically no way that would end up being the case.
Ditto on calling Rey being a nobody-whose-parents-literally-just-abandoned-her after TFA. Also kinda called Reylo after TLJ, but in retrospect itâs a not-so-good Disney trope which is unfortunate. Lukeâs story⌠kinda. After the TLJ teaser it was clear where they were going with it, but already in TFA he had a telling face if that makes sense.
I think the only thing more confusing to me than putting TLJ last are people who like the sequels and put TLJ as the worst of the three. Youâre the former of these two confusing cases, but I am curious, have you rewatched it since it came out?
Thatâs pretty exciting! Thanks for sharing this.
Although my first thought was about how, if I recall correctly, the script really butchers Poe and tries to sell ReyxPoe with the standard Trevorrow âserious âuptightâ girl x immature âgoofballâ guyâ dynamic which is the only kind of romance he seems to know how to write. Iâm biased, as I prefer Reylo (though perhaps without an actual romance?). So, annoyingly, I donât think the script is an absolute improvement over what we got. And anyway, in a way itâs odd to adapt the entirety of such a flawed first draft, but sticking to it does make it more âofficialâ I guess.
I wish, even just to preserve a âdefinitely could-have-beenâ ala Splinter of the Mindâs Eye, it could get released in an actually official capacity.
Okay, hereâs my mix of the fleet dialogue chatter
https://vimeo.com/423025361
fanedit
I donât have much to add beside that I like this one!
Hereâs a new version of the ending. Based on some feedback, I tried to find an effective new arrangement of the Tatooine/Broom Boy clips. I found a moment I thought was interesting. Let me know what you guys think!
https://vimeo.com/418754884
PW: fanedit
Holy shit that made me actually feel things
Because of course they cut that. this movie âŚ