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Post: #244566
Topic: Limited Edition Packaging Scans
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244566/action/topic#244566
Time: 15-Sep-2006 2:42 AM

I would really appreciate it if others could post hi-res the other special store bonuses. You know, I always thought the artwork on the RotJ bonus disc was some crappy photoshop job made and used for the early Asian special edition bootlegs.
Where is it actually from?

Post: #244561
Topic: First Impressions of the OOT ...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244561/action/topic#244561
Time: 15-Sep-2006 2:26 AM

Do the comics for Empire and Jedi also have the deleted scenes?

Post: #244560
Topic: Stormtrooper with 4 eyes ::( or Stormtrooper showing terrible IVTC/telecine artefacts
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244560/action/topic#244560
Time: 15-Sep-2006 2:19 AM

It's on my '93 sourced dvd. I noticed it before and thought it was bad compression. I think a similar thing happens when R2 is sucked into the Jawa truck. With the new release, I could see it a lot clearer. Makes me wonder if a lot of the other scenes with bad compression from Empire and Jedi (Jabba's Palace) are also badly smeared.

Post: #243939
Topic: Idea: The Original Star Wars... refurbishing?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243939/action/topic#243939
Time: 14-Sep-2006 12:02 AM

Don't know if you're aware but OCPmovie did something similar to this for all three films using the laserdisc footage. He called it the classic editions "not the way it was... but the way you remember it." I don't think he's planning to upgrade it using the new dvd footage so it might be worth a try if you want to.

Post: #243847
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243847/action/topic#243847
Time: 13-Sep-2006 7:36 PM

How about this for proof that Lucasfilm did restore the original movies before he made the special edition.

http://www.starwars.com/episode-iv/bts/article/f19970811/indexp3.html

The film was alarmingly faded, scratched and coated with dirt. It was soon clear that a full-scale restoration of the original negative would be necessary before any new footage or digital effects could be added.

Edited: Wed September 13, 2006 at 11:21 AM by frendon

This is the smoking gun we've been looking for. Spread the word.

Post: #243539
Topic: Lowest Priced OOT DVD Search.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243539/action/topic#243539
Time: 13-Sep-2006 1:20 AM

Got Star Wars at Walmart for $13.87 plus tax. A good price but it's a special that will go up to 20 in about a week. I got it with the comic book which came together in a nice box. For the price and the exclusive, I thought it was a great deal. The comic is really cool. It has all the deleted scenes and Han shoots Greedo. Period.
I thought the contrast on the movie was good, a lot better than the laserdiscs which were always washed out. And the black bars are black. There is FAR less compression and I can see a lot more detail. The only thing I didn't like was how series of horizontal lines in the film showed up. The vent on the side of Lukes landspeeder when they caught up with R2D2 for example. I didn't understand why the menus were anamorphic.

Post: #243096
Topic: 2006 OT DVD: The Crawl on Star Wars
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243096/action/topic#243096
Time: 12-Sep-2006 2:34 AM

Chill out Rev. Look, if it's this close, then I think it's has to be the real deal. If Lucas did a recreated crawl, we all know it would be a hack crappy inaccurate one. It would have required more work to fake it rather than dust off a print and we all know how he doesn't want to expend any effort on the original films.

Post: #243091
Topic: 9/11 5 years later
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243091/action/topic#243091
Time: 12-Sep-2006 2:13 AM

I was in 10th grade at the time. We had started the week after labor day so this was the first Tuesday in school. Our headmaster came in to my Spanish class and said in a very serious voice to my teacher "We're going to have a special assembly." In the auditorium, another teacher told us two planes had hit the World Trade Center, I thought terrorists had attacked, probably the same ones who bombed our embassies in Africa, why didn't we go after them in a sustained effort. The illusory facade of peace the US had felt for about a decade after the Cold War had painfully faded away.
Afterwards, I didn't know what was going to happen. It was a relief when September 12 and the ensuing days passed by without another attack. The country responded in unity unprecedented in my memory. Unfortunately I feel that this country has gone back and is now as divided as ever. But it's not what people are saying but rather how they are saying it. Whatever happened to civility and goodwill toward another? That is the question I believe everyone should ask themselves five years later.
It was very discouraging to see Hurricane Katrina used as a political device for every activist group. Whatever position they opposed was somehow responsible for an act of God. Instead of what can we do to help like after September 11, the idea was let's figure out who to blame. It really turned me off to the whole tragedy in 2005. And I have a feeling others may have felt that way too and it hurt the people affected the most.
I must say that I am very impressed with this site. When someone disagrees or posts why he doesn't understand the anamorphic issue, people don't bite his or her head off. And when someone is idiotic to wish for Lucas' death or likewise, they are rightly told off for it. That's not the case at other websites where someone might get banned for simply politely disagreeing or where rudeness and sub-childish immaturity is permitted or seemingly encouraged.
This is a comment from an actual website.

“What I notice that differentiates liberal versus conservative dialogue is the absolute vitriol, the ad hominem attacks and the vituperations spewing from liberals.”
We hate your guts. What’s the problem? Did you think people were gonna love you for being an a**hole?
Comment by Eat The Lazy Rich — August 11, 2005 @ 8:07 pm

The vast majority of user comments I read were at that site just like this. The writer could not have made the previous poster more correct. I see it on both sides and it doesn't help anything. At all.

Post: #242821
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242821/action/topic#242821
Time: 11-Sep-2006 12:42 AM

They said they were going to have a look at the dvd's to see what could be done with them but that they intend to finish the best possible pre '97 laserdisc transfer.
Lucas released the dvd set to stop bootlegs. If a bootleg set can be better than his official release, it would embarass LFL even further and put a lot more pressure on him to give the films a proper release. I think the '07 boxset will be the best chance for a long time. Hopefully with all the searching they are doing in the Lucasfilm archives for actual bonus material, they might stumble across some prints. If I had to guess, I'd figure they'd be in the same area Lucas wisely kept the deleted scenes and original elements from bluescreen shots. Lucas just doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would throw anything out. It's been confirmed he has a copy of the Holiday Special, how else would you explain the cartoon excerps shown on the Jango feature from AotC disc two. They even considered addressing it in Empire of Dreams with excerps. And isn't it true he still has his original screenplay writings on paper. Lucas wants to have complete control over his films. I think he just resents how Star Wars took on a life of its own and he just can't accept that the movies belong to the fans, not him.

Post: #242804
Topic: Info: Anyone Got A Spare 1300 Bucks? Star Wars 16mm on ebay...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242804/action/topic#242804
Time: 11-Sep-2006 12:04 AM

Has anyone who has a print tried to scan it in any way, even by recording off a screen? I know the results wouldn't be as good as a real telecine and I'm sure contrast would be worse than the new dvd's but I think even a Hi8 camera could get more resolution than the letterboxed release. Is there a way you could tell a computer to use the color and contrast of one source but render it into the resolution of the other source?

Post: #242799
Topic: Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242799/action/topic#242799
Time: 10-Sep-2006 11:46 PM

Does IVTC mean you make an interlaced image progressive? Was it a time consuming process for those who did LD to dvd transfers? Could NTSC laserdiscs be progressive?

Post: #242761
Topic: In defence of the 2004 DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242761/action/topic#242761
Time: 10-Sep-2006 8:34 PM

The color and contrast on the '04 dvds is terrible. I not sure if it was the worst dvd release ever because Empire of Dreams is one of the best movie documentaries. It is probably the worst film restoration in history, even if you disregard the special edition alterations. After watching the dvd's, I rented the Faces vhs tapes from my college library because I wanted to see the original versions. And I thought they looked so much better. The dvd's look like somebody just pressed auto fix in photoshop.
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Notice especially what happened to the lightsabers in 2004.

As for the audio, well that also sounds worse. It sounds flat and a lot of the dialogue sounds like it's being heard over an intercom. I wondered why everyone was complaining about the dialogue in the prequels. It didn't sound much worse to me than the Empire Strikes Back dvd. (I had not really seen any of the films all the way through until I got the trilogy dvd set for Christmas.) I'm sure the audio sounded fine to Lucas but then again he directed Hayden, who I've heard was good in Life as a House.
The '04 audio in Empire has some really bad things too. The music edited in during the new shuttle scenes is taken from the famous "No, I am your father scene," and it is a very abrupt music switch. I'm sure most of the fan edits did a better job blending accompanying audio when they either added or took out a scene. The other really bad mix I just noticed is that when Lando suprises Leia, 3PO and Chewy by helping them escape. Leia now says "You think after what you just pulled we're going GWRRRRRRRR WRRWGAAARRR WRRRAAAAAAAR." I think she was trying to say "we're going to trust you," but Chewbacca's loud growl drowned her last words out.

Post: #242595
Topic: In defence of the 2004 DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242595/action/topic#242595
Time: 10-Sep-2006 2:28 AM

I agree completely with Laserman about the crunching of colors on certain films. The fake colors and digital (de)grading RUINED Lord of the Rings for me along with the ATROCIOUS handheld camera fight scenes. I just hate that flat digital look which has no depth of field, resulting in foreground objects being softer, background objects being sharper as compared to film or even analog video.
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I see it with television too. I think ESPN (US sports channel)had a better picture in the mid 90's than they do today. It wasn't in HD but the colors were more vibrant and accurate. Exposure was more seamless without harsh bright spots or shadows. And it didn't have terrible digital compression like now, which on its SD channel looks worse than some videos on Youtube. Bill Hunt of the digital bits said it was the worst digital compression for an HD broadcast he had ever seen. What is the point of 1000 resolution lines if poor compression chops it in half? It appears ESPN auto fixes their contrast and boosts the saturation but that just overdoes it. Here's an representation using photos I took.
bad color, contrast & exposure (the flash was too bright)
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How it should have looked from the start (I partially covered the flash, picture unadjusted)
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I would greatly prefer seeing this image in standard definition than the above two in HD.

I also really hate those new plasma and LCD tv's that have such a terrible contrast ratio (they don't display a "true black"). I couldn't see anything except dark grey watching E. T. on my family's Sony Wega LCD. In my opinion that product should have been rejected by quality control and thrown in a junkyard. Poor standards for these new tv's are a real shame because the biggest reason why movies look so much better on dvd is today's newer anamorphic transfers have a vastly improved contrast ratio. The original and new dvd releases of "Blade Runner" show this.
How Blade Runner might look on most LCD or plasma tv's.
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Post: #242563
Topic: Episode VI: ROTJ - What Has Changed?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242563/action/topic#242563
Time: 9-Sep-2006 10:23 PM

For me, the celebration that was least believable was on Coruscant. I figured that many of the people there had power and status under the empire which they would have been most displeased to lose. I guess the empire was that bad. Kayshk should be included since the wookies who were enslaved were probably the happiest to see the empire fall.

Post: #242558
Topic: Selectable crawl on new DVD? Or just the old one?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242558/action/topic#242558
Time: 9-Sep-2006 10:05 PM

They don't look as good as the rest of the shots, which are '97 sourced. Which of course look better than the actual '04 dvd's including a short clip from RotJ near the beginning of EoD, of the lightsabers crossing in front of the emperor.

Post: #242556
Topic: My store just got the new DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242556/action/topic#242556
Time: 9-Sep-2006 9:53 PM

You know, the composite of Boba flying across the frame looks worse for 2004. The contrast is much more mismatched. What's really funny is the Shaw/Hayden comparison, specifically the frame they used. Hayden was inserted using extra RotS footage, he didn't even know about it which really shows. It's almost as if whoever did the comparison really wanted to make the original scene look better...

Post: #242439
Topic: Disc Errors
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242439/action/topic#242439
Time: 9-Sep-2006 4:24 AM

Another thing is how long a dvd player has been running and therefore how much heat it has generated. This happened watching my bootleg star wars discs where dvd's that were perfectly fine were dropping out. After I turned the player off for a while, they played back fine.

Post: #242436
Topic: Expecting too much of George Lucas?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242436/action/topic#242436
Time: 9-Sep-2006 4:07 AM

You mean it wasn't possible to make a fully opaque white costume. Why didn't Lucas just say,"Oh well, I could always fix it 20 years later."

Post: #242434
Topic: www.dvdempire.com O-OT pre-orders rankings (updated)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242434/action/topic#242434
Time: 9-Sep-2006 3:19 AM

The thing to remember is not everyone knows about this spectacular site, few own laserdisc players much less the THX disc versions. And for many people to find a good fan dvd set without paying a ridiculous amount would be too hard. There's probably a lot of new fans who don't own the originals on vhs. Besides this release should clearly be better than the tapes, most of which are pan/scan. So for many people not familiar with this site, the new dvd's are a must have.

Post: #242432
Topic: Question About New DVD's
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242432/action/topic#242432
Time: 9-Sep-2006 2:57 AM

I believe it means the original film will be widescreen, not anamorphic, whether you get the gold widescreen or blue fullscreen release.
I think it actually says on amazon

riginal films widescreen for both fullscreen and widescreen (releases).

Post: #242153
Topic: Expecting too much of George Lucas?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242153/action/topic#242153
Time: 8-Sep-2006 2:22 AM

I still don't get the lingerie thing. Why wouldn't someone wear underwear. Was there some sort of dress code that prohibited bras being worn.

Post: #241575
Topic: Blade Runner HDTV (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/241575/action/topic#241575
Time: 5-Sep-2006 10:41 PM

I saw the new dvd at Best Buy for about $15 US. It is the "director's cut" and the cover is pretty much the same but it features the restored picture. But I'd wait for the ultimate box set although I would love to see screenshot comparisons between the two dvd editions.

Post: #241563
Topic: The Blob!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/241563/action/topic#241563
Time: 5-Sep-2006 9:56 PM

Does the star wars website really say the color white no longer exists in the ot anymore? Then what color are the stormtroopers supposed to be? Did it also say the Millenium Falcon's magnetic shielding devices cause interference with the crystals that give a lightsaber its color?

Post: #240823
Topic: The Blob!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/240823/action/topic#240823
Time: 3-Sep-2006 2:44 AM

Did they really make a new costume and film a guy in it for the new wampa shots in '97? The horrible blue cast really shows again. Honestly, has there been a worse film "restoration" than the 2004 dvd's? (Even if you disregard special edition changes)

Post: #240819
Topic: Disc Errors
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/240819/action/topic#240819
Time: 3-Sep-2006 2:31 AM

I've had similar problems where my nearly filled to capacity, newly burned dvd's play like they have a bunch of scratches, usually on videos on the outer rings of the disc. I think certain dvd players can read "rough" video data better than others.

You might want to test them on several players to see which ones can read difficult discs better than others. Ofthen, I've found that reburning the exact same dvd from my computer will not have the problem the second time around.