Klingon_Jedi

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Post: #163898
Topic: fan edit: removing 'the message' from disney films?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/163898/action/topic#163898
Time: 17-Dec-2005 8:31 AM

I hate to say it, but that's not what it means.

"Emeritus" - Retired but retaining an honorary title corresponding to that held immediately before retirement.

Basically, he's a figurehead on the board there to keep people like me quiet. Iger's said he will listen to Roy's advice, but other than that, he technically has no power. I have great faith in Roy, and believe he wouldn't have backed down like he did without good reason. There's something up his sleave, but it will be awhile before it's played, I know.

Post: #163762
Topic: fan edit: removing 'the message' from disney films?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/163762/action/topic#163762
Time: 16-Dec-2005 11:13 AM

Eisner's gone, Iger's in charge now. Hopefully it won't be "Eisner 2.0". Roy didn't win his battle sadly. He was bought out. He's got his board seat back, but who knows what that'll accomplish. The battle won't be won until the day they reopen the doors of Disney Feature Animation.

I could see some sequel edits, and maybe some of the recent films. Just leave Walt's alone.

Post: #163752
Topic: I dub this ship: HIMS PHALLIC COMPENSATOR.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/163752/action/topic#163752
Time: 16-Dec-2005 10:42 AM

It does sort of resemble the Spaceball One. I wonder if it transforms in Mega Maid as well. ^_^

Post: #163749
Topic: ESB (OOT version) - My thoughts
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/163749/action/topic#163749
Time: 16-Dec-2005 10:39 AM

Originally posted by: Invader Jenny
That is what bugs me so much about the SE. There actually ARE some elements I would want to keep. Things like watching the X-Wings take off from the Yavin moon. Now that was an awesome shot and much better than the little "pshew-pshew-pshew" effect of little white triangles flying off about 16 miles away.

But I guess I'll have to live with it. I would rather have Han shoot first and have little white triangles, than see greedo shoot first and totally bitchin' X-wing fighter shots.

But it still pains me.

Personally, I prefer the little specks. It didn't make much sense that they had a lookout right next to the temple(assuming they launch stright from the temple like the games suggest, there's mention of a "launch tube"). It just knid of defeat the point of having one. That, and the fact that he isn't reacting at all to the noise, which should be deafening. The slow launch doesn't work with the music either. But hey, Yavin was among my biggest complaints. I didn't mind the new temple matt painting though.

As for Mos Eisley, I thought the city was far too bustling. It went from deserted little berg to New York. Seeing as it's a small space port on a backwater planet, the old feels more suitable.

Post: #163714
Topic: On Christianity
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/163714/action/topic#163714
Time: 16-Dec-2005 6:28 AM

Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
I generally don't like to discuss religion, as it tends to draw battle lines between people, like the Catholic/Protestant dynamic. The world would be a better place if we could focus on the beliefs we have in common, rather than our differences.

My thoughts exactly. Personally, I'm a confirmed Catholic, though I admit that I was more following my parents than doing so of my own choice. I'm fairly open with such things. However, I don't really like discussing it. Faith is a very personal thing, and not entirely something that is easy to discuss. Hence all the arguements it brings.

I believe that one should not try to force their views on others. If you don't believe in God, that's your choice. I don't look down on you for your beliefs, and ask you the same. I think we'd all be a lot better off if we focused on our own personal beliefs and not concern ourselves with the beliefs of others. It's their choice. i don't really believe in such things as a "One true religion", but that's me.

Post: #163713
Topic: EU
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/163713/action/topic#163713
Time: 16-Dec-2005 6:16 AM

Amusing list Skyman, though a tad out of context.

The only reason I haven't really discussed the EU, is that I'm currently reading other books. I'm on Balance Point in the NJO(which I started when it did). My personal favorites are the works of Zahn and Stackpole.

Currently I'm reading the Moble Suit Gundam novel trilogy. Before that, it was Disney War(which certain events key to it having changed, it kind of pushed me out of it). Then, who knows.

I do consider them in my own canon. At least, the stuff I still remember. I've been reading them since I was 9. So some's a bit foggy.

Post: #163059
Topic: The Watches at Burger King
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/163059/action/topic#163059
Time: 13-Dec-2005 8:16 PM

I've never heard of that working. Good job Ric. ^_^. My local Burger King offered them individually or in sets, and I didn't have to buy their food. Growing up on McDonalds and Carls Jr when it came to fast food sort of turned me against the King. That, and their slander tatics in their ads.

Post: #162935
Topic: I dub this ship: HIMS PHALLIC COMPENSATOR.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/162935/action/topic#162935
Time: 13-Dec-2005 7:38 AM

While I agree that it is ridiculously oversized(though "bigger being better" is the Imperial philosophy), I must say that I like the aestetics of it.

Post: #162918
Topic: The Watches at Burger King
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/162918/action/topic#162918
Time: 13-Dec-2005 4:18 AM

I thought they were pretty cool. I bought the whole set (all six). I might've changed some character's though. It sucks that there's no Palpatine on any of them. Best of all, I got them without having to buy their lousy food. ^_^

Post: #159988
Topic: Reasons to hate the Special Editions
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/159988/action/topic#159988
Time: 2-Dec-2005 5:12 AM

According to him, it's never changed. So why do three old films get changed if he claims to have always had them this way from the get go.

It has nothing to do with his supposed "vision." It has everything to do with making three films two decades later and deciding not to do your best to make them fit with a pre-existing trilogy. It's not his overall vision that's different. It's the fact that he did small things in the prequels that conflict with established mythos when they could have easily been changed to avoid this. Instead, he went full kilter without regard on the ideal that, "hey we can always make more changes."

I'm saying that the changes shouldn't have been needed at all, given the clean slate and a pre-established set of creteria to work with.

Post: #159987
Topic: The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/159987/action/topic#159987
Time: 2-Dec-2005 5:06 AM

"Tell the children of their true parantage we must not, Obi-Wan. Better they believe a different truth than the terrible one that is. Until the time is right, unaware they must be."

I like it. That would work much better than trying to do the whole, "Make Ben tell the truth". Luke's reaction just wouldn't be believable in either film. Besides, I prefer the idea of Luke starting on his journey after having lost everything, and trough supporting a cause, finds the truth of his father and his own genuine purpose. Having him know from the get-go would ruin that, especially considering how his dialogue to Ben upon his return to the farm speaks nothing of wanting to help his father. It would make his actions in Jedi seemingly out of the blue.

There is merit to this, mostly due to it's unofficial nature. Though having the Emperor merely named is enough. I see no point in adding him.

Post: #159979
Topic: Reasons to hate the Special Editions
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/159979/action/topic#159979
Time: 2-Dec-2005 4:21 AM

Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
From a certain point of view.

No really, it makes a lot more sense to tailor films that, at the time, hadn't been made, than changing 20 year old movies for what amounts to absolutely no reason. There was no reason to change Fett's voice when you can chalk it up to a simple voice changer(like Boba wan't people to think he's another clone). There's no reason for Hayden's head when Anakin is 20 years older. There's no reason to change a perfectly good dialogue just so you can name drop.

The O-OT fits with the prequels just as well as the SSE, without any of the crap either.

Little things could be changed in the PT and it would mesh perfectly without touching the older films.

You're basically saying it would be ok for Empire to say Luke died at Yavin if Lucas so felt like it. Changing an older film to fit a non-existent one just because you're too lazy to make it fit on it's own shouldn't even be an option.

Post: #159978
Topic: ANH Space Battle aka The Battle of Yavin
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/159978/action/topic#159978
Time: 2-Dec-2005 4:09 AM

Dig up any thread about the changes and this one is at or near the top of things that I hated the most. The CG was well below ILM's capability. They were not blended well with the remaining old effects(the CG has a brown tone of is far too saturated). They used the same model for every shot. Look closely (heck, the casual viewer will catch it) and you'll see that they all have the same number of wing stripes, the same blue R2 unit, and rust in the same places. There was no need for this given the available resources. The new pan at the beginning does a very poor job of conveying motion. The ships look all but stationary, giving the impression that the Death Star has a clear shot at Yavin 4. On a more personal note, I always though of the shot of Red Leader's group starting their run as from Luke's POV. Especially since we see him look to his left in the preceeding shot. This is not possible now that an X-wing zooms by the camera. About the only shot I liked was Biggs being chased by a TIE. The old was just an arc. Still, one shot does not make a revision.

Really, the thing that gets me is that the old BoY was done by amatuers and hobbyists in their spare time, on a limited budget that was half wasted while Lucas was in Tunisia, working with new concepts. It blew the lead off of special effects, changed how they were done forever, and is still realistic to this day. Not to mention that each X-wing was unique. The new is by seasoned pros, with unlimited funds and time, working with time-tested techniques. Yet the ships look fake, they're all the same, and now they're supposedly better because they dance and fly through fireballs?

The original has character and history. It builds tension by creating a documentary like feel without dwelling on pointless shots. The new looks like every other sci-fi film since the advent of CGI. The old looks like Star Wars, the new like Independance Day.

Post: #153391
Topic: Darth Vader's Wish List
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/153391/action/topic#153391
Time: 8-Nov-2005 5:43 AM

Funny stuff.

Post: #153285
Topic: Lapti Nek in Battlefront II
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/153285/action/topic#153285
Time: 7-Nov-2005 7:28 PM

Mostly well known tracks. Good veriety though. I'm too busy taking out Rebels while being reminded that Lord Vader does not appreciate failure to really catalogue. It's possible though.

Post: #153132
Topic: Lapti Nek in Battlefront II
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/153132/action/topic#153132
Time: 7-Nov-2005 9:40 AM

It's the old version on the original Jedi soundtrack. So, no, it's not availible on the widely spread current soundtrack.

Post: #153122
Topic: Lapti Nek in Battlefront II
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/153122/action/topic#153122
Time: 7-Nov-2005 9:22 AM

I was just playing assult mode in Mos Eiley (heroes vs. villiians). It's one of the songs in the revolving playlist. It's always sweet to see/hear elements of the O-OT in something new. Fighting as Darth Maul to the song is rather odd, but very amusing, I must say.

Post: #152746
Topic: George Lucas Raped My Childhood - the song
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/152746/action/topic#152746
Time: 5-Nov-2005 4:29 PM

That song was totally awesome. Its stuck in my head. Great find.

Post: #151616
Topic: If George had only changed Special effects for the SE and DVD, would people have complained as much?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/151616/action/topic#151616
Time: 31-Oct-2005 1:14 PM

Actually, if memory serves, it was fan opinion that kept the theatrical cut of ST: TMP in the vault. The DC added storyline and character development to the film, something the original sorely lacked. On the Director's Edition DVD, every scene that was changed, and most if not all that was cut was put on the DVD in anamorphic widescreen. So I wouldn't put it in the same grouping as Blade Runner and Star Wars SE.

Post: #149586
Topic: If George had only changed Special effects for the SE and DVD, would people have complained as much?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149586/action/topic#149586
Time: 21-Oct-2005 11:45 PM

Wow, I haven't seen Explorers in ages. That's another film I used to love as a kid, along with Krull, The Goonies, Bill and Ted, etc.

Post: #149580
Topic: If George had only changed Special effects for the SE and DVD, would people have complained as much?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149580/action/topic#149580
Time: 21-Oct-2005 11:18 PM

Actually one of the reasons I've loved the films is for their original effects. Growing up I used to watch Movie Magic, and model and stop motion effects were always more interesting to hear about then CGI. I found it overall more impressive. I also built models as a hobby with my dad and had a sordid history with digital growing up. I got to see many of these pieces in San Francisco as well. So for me, Star Wars is also a celebration of classic special effects techniques and how they can look just as good if not better than their digital counterparts. Sure the SE BoY is a tad more fluid, but the X-wings look digital. I value realism over anything else. If it looks fake, I don't care what it's doing, it's failed as a special effect.

The SE effects look less convincing than the old ones, and are beneith ILMs standards of quality.

I was kind of like Gaffer Tape. While I didn't really care for any of the changes, it didn't matter as long as they were merely an alternative view on the trilogy. It's when I found out that I'm supposed to view them as The One True Star Wars that it elevated to the next level. I personally don't need a DVD release, but it peeves me that the version that stared this whole thing, with ground breaking effects that changed the way thing are done replaced with run-of-the-mill digital ones because "they're prettier/cooler"are the only way that they're being released as.

Then there's the True Fan debate, but you're all aware of that, I'm sure.

Post: #149610
Topic: Daicon IV Opening Video
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149610/action/topic#149610
Time: 21-Oct-2005 9:23 PM

According to that site, the Densha Otaku clip was done by Gonzo, which apparently was founded by former Gainax members(and started out doing PSX FMVs - it shows). I have a love/hate relationship with that studio, They can make some good things, but they mostly over use CGI while not developing story much. That, and their fan's (self-labeled Gonzo Whores)are rather annoying. I haven't seen the that show though.

http://www.catsuka.com/interf/bideo/amateur.htm

That has the other Daicon animations.

Post: #149577
Topic: Daicon IV Opening Video
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149577/action/topic#149577
Time: 21-Oct-2005 4:56 PM

That's what I heard on the forum I found it on. It can apparrently go for thousands when it shows up on Yahoo Japan auctions.

Only weird thing was they parody it in FLCL, where Haruko comes in in a bunny suit on a flying guitar, and she says Daicon V, when this is Daicon IV.

Here's a website I found on it,

http://www.cjas.org/~leng/daild.htm

Post: #149408
Topic: Daicon IV Opening Video
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149408/action/topic#149408
Time: 20-Oct-2005 11:45 PM

This is the opening done by Gainax(an anime studio responsible for Evangelion, Gunbuster, Kare Kano and others) for the 1983 Daicon Scifi Convention.

Basically, it's a music video starring the Bunny Girl Mina interacting with various Scifi/fantasy characters and settings, including, of course, Star Wars. The qualtie's only so-so, but it's not bad given how rare the LDs are.

http://kumasan.free.fr/Daicon4.zip

Post: #146825
Topic: James Cameron's Battle Angel - the beginning of a live action anime feeding frenzy?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/146825/action/topic#146825
Time: 10-Oct-2005 1:18 AM

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I'd rather go for the originals Bubblegum Crisis and Bubblegum Crash rather than Bugglegum Crisis Tokyo 2040 first in my opinion.
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I know this is a cardinal sin, but enjoy 2040 more than the original BGC. It's like comparing the hosts of Mystery Science Theater 3000 - Joel Hodgson and Mike Nelson, respectively - both have their good points and bad points , but 2040 appeals more to me - though I prefer the red haired Nene from the original BGC over the blonde Nene of 2040.

Well at least you're not completely far gone. ^_^

Personally I like both, but I enjoy the original immensely more. From the designs to the over feel and plot. It was just darker and more atmospheric. It's just a shame Artmic and Youmex had to have a fallout over it. That, and Priss was a tad too vengeful at times. 2040 wasn't bad, but there were some things I didn't care for much.

I don't think I'd want to see a live action version though. I think the guys that make these seem to forget that a lot of the premises are just more believable in animation. There's an easier suspension of belief, and one can immerse themselves better. a live BGC would probably be just another brainless Sci-fi action film, especially in the wrong hands. Some things just don't work well in LA.

There's Casshern, which i though wasn't half bad. Storywise it wasn't much, but at least the visuals were interesting.

There's Golgo 13 - The Kowloon Assignment. I haven't seen it nor really heard much of it.