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#71640
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Originally posted by: Regicidal_Maniac
How quickly the neo-con Right-wing Christian Reich choose to forget the facts of the past in order to continue the lies of the present.



Pretty lucky that Saddam Hussein, an absolute cock don't get me wrong, had that 'stroke' recently before he was due to be turned over to officials for questioning and trial. Too bad I'd have liked to hear his thoughts as, yet another, US propped up despot I think he might have had some interesting insights, being an insider an all.



Osama bin Laden, ('who? OH him... right, I think I remember him') was trained by the CIA in Afghanistan to fight the 'evil' Russians but this too eventually went pear-shaped as most American interventionism in the Middle East tends to do. (Can you even tell me why you tyhink the US is SO involved in that particular part of the world?)

Israel is a nation of terrorists, not that Palestine isn't, yet the US is sides with Israel, proveds them with weapons, excuses and cover-ups all because of the worlds of one dusty old book.

Osama's damned lucky that everyone's been brainwashed into forgetting about him. Maybe he'll come good again one day. I guess it all depends how useful he is in the region.

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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
What infuriates me the most is that people who call themselves humanists are against this war. How can you be a humanist if you don't think we should do anything to help the humans in distress in Iraq.


What infuriates me most is people who use the fairytales of the ancient Greek myth of Herakles Romanised as Hercules and grafted onto the life of Yoshua-Ben-Yosef generations after the fact to claim moral and ethical superiority over those they decree to be heathens just because we value human life more than constructed ideology.

Humanists see all loss of life to be a tragic waste, not just those on 'our side'. Helping humans in distress is exactly what was NOT done in Iraq and Afghanistan. There are many people in distress in your own country, why aren't those military monies being spent to feed clothe and shelter those poor wretches?

If you choose to believe the lies then do so but don't think for one second that you can claim the high ground when you have no clue why the US really went after Saddam.

"Let's not forget, this is a man who tried to kill my dad at one point." George W Bush 43* (*not).


TUT TUT TUT, there mr. Hateful saddam Hussien was put in power in the late 70's which was under carters reign. Secondly, you have a picture with Rumy shaking his hand, should i dig up a picture of CLinton shaking Kim Il's hand. Just because he shakes hands with the man doesnt mean that we supported him. There are other types of meetings and summits...

As for Osama bin Laden, do you know why we helped him???? There was once a pawn oh time something called the cold war. US vs. USSR. Well the USSR was invading afganastan and in order to help that country out, as well as frustrate our lang term enemty we aided in the training and arming of select troops. Kill two birds with one stone you know, 1) stop the spread of communism, and 2) aid a people group defend themselves...


WOW, after reading the Irsreal part i now understand you better. I will just leave it at that. You know what would happen if the US stopped asking the Irealy gov to play nice??? There would be no palistine thats what. Isreal has one of the best military forces in the world. Not to mention their Special Forces rival the worlds elite. When ever the US holds War games with Isreal they wamp us. If there was no US to try and hold back the Isreal, it would get really bad really fast for anyone and everyone attacking them.


Um, not are you surprisingly uninformed about the connection of Christianity to other non christian belief systems, if you are gonna go around spouting hate, you should probably spout informed hate. Your theory is not even close to what a vast majority of non-christian scholars believe to be the primary influsences of the development of what they would call the "christian myth"

you call people in america poor wretches, here are some stats for you, 85% of the people that are "impovrished in america" have color tv's and cable. The bottom line is that a vast amount of the "impoverished" in america live like Royalty when you compare them to the the people in the two countries in question. Further more, you dont solve poverty by throwing money at the people in it. We have a social well fare system in this country and it shoulders a good amount of the blame for people being sucked into the cycle of poverty. Why work when you can sit on your couch and eat government subsidised foods, collect a check, and watch cable in your free, or low cost housing...

Humanist my fat rear end, if humanist like you discribed ran the world in the 30's and 40's everyone here not from america would be speacking german...

that is all...


EDIT: no wait it isnt... why hasnt anyone answered my question from the last page or so???
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#71462
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/71462/action/topic#71462
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Motti they are right on both counts. In Afganistan and in Iraq people now have civil rights, something that both lacked in the past. We are talking about countries that had men appointed as chief rapists, where women and children are objects, and the vile list could go on and on. Now those places are places where children are educated, women (not to mention men) can vote, people recieve vaccinations, clean water, food, and on and on and on.

and i would spend some time reading those reports, leaders in high places in all those countries recieved millions of dollars each from the bathe party.

here is a interesting web site check it out...

Iraq
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#71104
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It's official...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/71104/action/topic#71104
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Originally posted by: Regicidal_Maniac
Gah!

He wasn't joking about marrying into money he was poking fun at himself for not being the world's best catch. Have you seen the guy? He knows what he looks like.

He's longfaced, drab-looking and not the world's most scintillating conversationalist (although he does have a grasp on the English language which even Bush admits he does not.)


What i think bothered a lot of people is that he had little to say about his wife. Bush gave an emotionally charged answer about how much his wife and girls mean to him. Kerry popped a joke and then talked about his dead mother. I know my wife wouldnt be happy if all i did was joke about her money and thats it...


In other news... if i had a dollar for every time i heard Kerry said "funding" i could personally balance the national debt. If he gets elected say goodbye to your money cause taxes are gonna go way up...

edit: if i had a dollar for every moronic typo i made, i would be twice as rich...
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#70969
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good point lethe, about the civil rights thing. But i think by and large it is because of how certain minority groups have handled it. The NAACP is by and large nothing but the democrats lap dog, same with anything the the "Good reverands" Jackson and Sharpton are involved with. When discussing race and politics with people the first question i ask is "what has the democratic party done for minorities in the last 20 years?" there are only two answers i get to this question. 1 is "um...er... i dont know, but those republicans are all racists, and at least the economy is was good". My respounse to this is usually pointing out the present unemployment rate 5.4%, that minority unemployment is about the same as it was under clinton, that minority home ownership is at an all time high, and that Presedent Bush has 6 minorities as advisors. Cabinet Rice. The other answer i get is usually "Nothing, buyt niether has the Republican party". Two which i say "your right". Bill Cosby is right, and it is sad, minorities, especially the younger generations, are so busy blaming everyone, throwing a pitty party, and/or just wasting there lives in general that they dont utilize all the freedoms that great women and men of the past paid heavily for. Could you imagine if people bonded together like they once did in boycotts and in political movements the change that could happen? Imgine if Groups got together and all voted for an independant canidate in a show of power, people would listen, i know they would...
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#70283
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I was merely answering your question there Double R. You possed a question i answered it. Nothing more...

Not Labeling you, i dont know you from a hole in the ground, how could i possibly label you...

and the Religious Right is far from having the market cornered on hyporcracy.

ANd the high road comment was a joke, notice the wink...
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#70266
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70266/action/topic#70266
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Originally posted by: Rebel Rouser
It's times like this that I'm glad I'm a Marxist.

Killing our own babies is wrong, but killing foreign babies (and the rest of their population, and even allowing the death penalty in America) is okay?


I find it amusing how people will protect the lives of murders and rapist, but are willing to throw away (quite literally) the lives of the innocent.


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No tolerance for gays, but tolerance for a 2000 year old, outdated, hate mongering religious belief is right?

Despite your hate talk i agree that most Christians need to re-evaluate the approach towards homosexuals. It is one thing to disagree, but to completely ostrosize is another. Read the NT the only people Jesus dropped the hammer on were the Pharassies... aka the religious hypocrits... All the other "immoral people" Jesus was eating dinner with, and hanging out with them...

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Allowing a candidate to change their mind on an issue is unheard of, but supporting a candidate who still hasn't mastered high-school level English is "the only sane choice"?


Changing your mind is one things. Wavering like a reed in a hurrican is another. Kerry isnt just changing his mind he is flip flopping with public opinion. In the most extreme cases he is doin things like criticizing bush for not adiquitly equipping the troops, when he personaly voted against the bills to provide the afformentioned equipment.

As far as the speaking gaffes, Kerry has had more than one himself. The fact remains that any individual that is taped 24-7 will make gaffes.

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I could go on, but in short I think the so called "moral/Christian-right" need to pay a little more attention to the doctrines of their faith. What ever happened to "judge not", "do unto others", "love thy neighbor", "turn the other cheek" and a hundred other lessons the faith is supposedly based on? The hypocrisy of all you people claiming to have a moral leg to stand on based on your religion, all the while using the words "faggot" and "whore" (and yes, that statement is leveled directly at Jimbo) is astounding.


Mostly spot on here, save the no judge thing. Scripturally speaching Christians are required to hold people acountable, but are not to make value judgements on those people. The verse you are specifically referancing is calling people attention to the fact that they are not perfect either and should beware in the way that they are treating people. But the rest of it i agree with. the problem lies in that many Christians are so by a cultural standard only, or have never taken the time to study the Teaching of scripture. Sad really. And thanks for lumping us all together because of the actions of a load minority. Gross generalizations are always helpful.

Jimbo. I dont mean this in a completely negative light, so dont become defensive.

Your actions on this board are disturbing to say the least. You claim the name of Christ, yet you drag it through the gutter with your hateful and demining comments directed towards, homosexuals, women, and people you disagree with. I would advise you take some time and really evaluate your life, because your actions are in direct conflict with what you claim as a spiritual identity. They after all should be mutually exclusive. I am not saying that i by any means are perfect, but it is one thing to be imperfect, and a completely different thing to run around the internet cursing, and degrading people with deragatory hate speach...

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I can't really say I like Kerry, but I can say I really don't like Bush. (And I can also say that people like Jimbo are why baseball bats were invented...)


Interesting like how you insenuate beating jimbo with a baseball bat here, way to take the high road.



please excuse all the various spelling and grammarical errors i am in a hurry and didnt have time to proof read...
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#70090
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Song In Jabba's Palace
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70090/action/topic#70090
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
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Originally posted by: jimbo
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Originally posted by: Kingsama
I agree that it made sense, but in a different way...

If you are a gangster and all you do is sit around all day tending to your crime families business, you are bound to want some sort of entertainment. I was always fine with the concept, but the follow through is what got me. It was fine the way it was, why make it into a spectical?


I like the idea of Jabba having entairtainment but the Jedi rocks song wasn't the right way. It really just sounds almost as bad as an Usher concert. Maybe thats going to far but it isn't very good. Still its in Return of the Jedi which makes it tolarable. If something like it had been added into The Empire Strikes Back I would have been pissed. I also like the idea of Boba as a pimp.


OK, so, if the Bobba thing is so controvesrial, tell me, what would he do with the money he got from Vader and Jabba?

And I know how GL can fix the Jedi Rock for the ultimate version... Three words: Eletric Light Orchestra! "Xanadu! Xanadu!"


i am cool with the bobo thing, i just hate Jedi Rocks...

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#69874
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Song In Jabba's Palace
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/69874/action/topic#69874
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I agree that it made sense, but in a different way...

If you are a gangster and all you do is sit around all day tending to your crime families business, you are bound to want some sort of entertainment. I was always fine with the concept, but the follow through is what got me. It was fine the way it was, why make it into a spectical?
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#69872
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Funny, Jimbo gets it, and rightfully so, for his way of expressing himself and maybe even some hypocrisy. But others by and large do the same hate mongering, just with better grammar and a more patronizing feel, and some how feel they are justified... yeah your right way to go, you are a much bigger/more mature person than he is ...


G-d and politics:

Let me help this out a bit, in the bible, Book of Romans chapter 13, 1st verse to be specific, it states and I do summarize. That there is no authority, including government leader, on earth that is not appointed by G-d. The rest of the chapter goes on to discuss various other issues pertaining to this, feel free to read it if you like. BUT I see no reason why it has been brought up here. There is a large collection of various different beliefs and perspectives here and i fail to see why this "Christian concept" is applicable. If this was a Christian board or even a conversation that was discussing G-d and any relationship to government it may be applicable, but since by and large this is nothing like that I would recommend it be left out, especially if you don’t know where the concept comes from...


Abortion.

Just for some clarity G. Bush doesn’t want to completely ban abortion, he is in favor of limiting its usage from at will pregnancy protection, to before a certain point in the pregnancy, in cases of rape and or incest, and in cases where the mothers life is in danger.

Personally, i am against abortion in many of its forms. I fail to see how your own personal lack of responsibility has to do with the destruction of life. For every one child in America put up for adoption there is an average of 25 couples waiting to get that child. I also fail to see, and this is where I guess some of us just have to respectfully disagree, how a growing child is a part of the women’s body. It is after all its own entity. Again this is just my perception which I believe to be true, (and it is true whether you like it or not )

Separation of Church and State.

This concept is simple. The government can’t establish or favor in any way any one, or lack there of, religion. It must stay a neutral body when such issues arise. It does not however mean a banning of religion or a banning of people who are religious in anyway from public office. (That would fall under the "against" wording)

Lastly... I wish more people would spend the time educating themselves at least a little bit. Support Bush or Support Kerry or who ever you like, just make sure you have reasons for it, don’t just jump in and ramble off some inane dribble about one or the other, have some semblance of thought behind what you say; there are plenty of reasons to support or not support any political figure, find some...
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#69211
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/69211/action/topic#69211
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Originally posted by: Bossk
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As for who do I support? I dunno anymore. I'm very much against Bush for what he has done to our country in terms of international relations. Every bridge that was built by past presidents has been torn down to a furious pile of burning rubble and I don't like that. In this day and age, it is essential that countries get along moreso than at any other time in human history. We don't have to have the same beliefs or governmental systems or religious ideals or anything, just respect for each other's right to have those beliefs, systems, etc.


So we should put aside smacking a guy that is reported to be developing nukes, as well as support al queda, because france doesnt want to stop getting paid buy Sadam and his cronies???


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If Bush is going to use the "we had to liberate Iraq from the tyranny of an improper political system" argument, what's to stop another country that doesn't believe in democracy from attacking us for the same reason. Why do we have to be World Police? I don't like it. I think we should all work together as a truly multinational group to make things right. There is no reason for the U.S. to go above the UN (yes, I do believe that the UN is severely flawed in many ways as well) and invade Iraq. We have no right and the justification was just too weak. If Kerry is being accused of being a regular Eggo, then just look at the Bush administration and the multiple ways it has had to cover its ass in the justification of the war in Iraq. 'Nuff said.


Um first things first Clinton tried to be the worlds police and messed up major.

Second the UN is a utter disaster, any time countries like Iran get to head the Human Rights commitee something is dramatically wrong, not to mention the Oil for food fiasco.

THird read above about france. Not to mention just because our historical allies are cowards doesnt mean we need to as well.

As for justification how bout a dozen plus violated UN sanctions.

And as for why sadam? Easy all info pointed to him building WMD's. He was the easy target, and he was aiding al quieda. Since the war started Iran as well as various other countries have decided to sing a little different tune, and in 15 years or so Iraq people will be truely a positive nation, not somewhere where there are rape rooms, and a genocidal dictator. You gotta make an example out of someone.


More thoughts.

Kerry pointed out that we are 90% of the force there, um guess what the same could be said for cosavo, somalia, and various other conflicts including Korea.

Kerry also said that Bin Laden was still in Afganistan, which about 90%+ experts say he is not, more like Packistan,

Kerry also critzed bush about the warlords thing. You know where he got the idea? The fine men and women in charge of our armed forces. There is a reason that Russia sucked it up big time in Afganistan, and Bush and the military leaders of the US armed forces didnt want to be next in the long line of failures in fighting Afganistan.
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#69139
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/69139/action/topic#69139
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A few thoughts...

1. If Bush lied, Kerry lied before he did, and so did Edwards. Kerry and Edwards are both on the senate intelligence committee that passed the information about WMD and Nukes in Iraq to the Pres.

2. Kerry keeps talking about bring our allies in. aka France and Germany. France, whose high ranking officials have made millions (if not billions) of dollars off the Oil for Food program, has already stated that no matter who is elected they aren’t going to help, though they are quick to beg for contracts. Bush couldn’t mention any of this during the debates it would be bad taste.

3. Kerry dodged a number a number of questions, including those about the mistakes Bush made. answering with "where do i start" and then never starting...

4. Kerry's plans for Medicare takes power away from people and companies, the last thing i want in life is a health system similar to Canada. where people wait months for critical surgeries.

5. Kerry will raise taxes, apparently I don’t know how to spend my own money and the government needs to tell me how to do that too.

6. Kerry wants more government. the last thing I want. Small efficient government equals happy me, not a sprawling morass of a government. I like to run my life, not the government.

7. The democratic party as a whole has a terrible foreign policy. Carter and Clinton entered us into various debacles, where as Reagan, Bush and Bush get the job done. There have been no bombs, no trains blowing up, and no schools being high jacked as there is abroad. That is what happens when you negotiate with fanatics(they are like fanboys ).

well that is enough for now. I don’t like everything that Bush stands for, but i would much rather have him there and know what to expect than Mr. floor routine


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#68773
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The OT Cover Repository
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68773/action/topic#68773
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I think you are on the right track, the thumbnail gallery with links to torrent locations would probably present the best functionality with out denting anyone's wallet. Unless someone has server space to lend the cause. Once the sight is up you could potentially open it up to many different artist to post their work...
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#68863
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OT.com is so loved....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68863/action/topic#68863
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I dont know what thread you were reading, but in this thread i saw(aka this one) max two people making openly insulting statements, a couple of tongue in cheek cracks, and a whole lot of i think they misunderstood us posts. In life it is easy to ignore the 9 positive posts for the one negative. The proverb of "one bad apple ruins the bunch" isnt just nonsense, it holds truth. And the one of the truths presented by this saying is that people often remember the negactive experiences more clearly than vast majority of positive experiences. I.E. if you go to the same store often enough and recieve above par treatment you will have a plesent feeling of the place, but will probably not remeber it as good. However, the one time you have a negative experience the store is the worst place in the world. i think the same is true in these boards, a vast majority of the discussion is good, but small amount of negative leaves the stronger impression. (Especially if you have heard about the "crazies" on the boards, or have your mind made up prior). To any naysayer i challenge you to spend time here and openly and honestly evaluate the people here for a good length of time, what you find here just might surprise you. Besides how can you properly judge the lot of us based off a few minutes, hours, or days of posting?

Star Wars and strong emotion.

Star Wars isnt just a movie, it is and was the first cultural phenomenon of its kind. I like many other who grew up with it have been fans longer than our memories go back. When you buy into something with this much furver, as many of us have spending mind boggling amounts of time and money on it, it becomes almost a part of who we are. Then when somebody tells you that you opinion doesnt matter, and in your mind screws up that thing you are naturally inclined to be a little miffed. Do i think anyone on these boards wish GL death, or personal harm? No, of course not. They are passe little comments on a INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD, ment to convey the amount of disappointment and frustration many of us have due to the (miss)handling of these movies over the years. I would greatly perfer people getting off there high horses (on both sides) and realize that whether you are bashing GL or bashing others it is all the same. Further more, realize that this is the internet and all of the dialogue being had here should be taken with a grain of salt.

O-OT VS. SE and Beyond

In the end this is all a matter of opinion. The thing i hate is how one side seems to overwhelmingly judge the other when they actively due the same thing. Us purist are given this bad rap on the boards i have visisted, slighted and gossiped about for our strong views. But gushers do the same things we do just the opinion is different, but it is ok? Its like the ACLU and Christens... The ACLU spends all there time alienating Christians talking about how jusdgemental they are, and how unexceptable the faith is especially if they tell people something is wrong, when the whole time the ACLU is doing exact same thing, being judgemental and telling people they are wrong***.

Also please dont patronize me with the whole
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I believe that the very essence of this site is less about a love for Star Wars than it is a dislike for the SE's and the PT
. That is simply rediculous. The reason people are so passionate about the movies is due to there love for them. Do you think members here would spend large amounts of there time and money trying to restore and perseve something they hate? Nor does any one here lack the
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"ability to be satisfied with anything"
as tlbauerle states. we just have a different taste in movies, a better one in our minds, though i am sure you would believe the same of your camp.

In closer i would say one thing before you make any more statements such as
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I don't think I've seen a nastier, more malicious group of individuals
i would look at your own post and those of your comrads over at MF.com...

peace...



*** This is just an example that came to mind while i was typing, please dont let this interupt the current topic and bleed into a religous/political mudsling fest. we can do that in another forum, or on pms ...
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#68760
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OT.com is so loved....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68760/action/topic#68760
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Originally posted by: Obi-wonton


Well I guess, stuff like this makes me be defensive and I am trying to wax poetic, but I love when a new person posts here we say, "welcome home" and not bash them for being "newbies" with inferior intelligence or quip "do a search" to them like other boards. I love this place.




That my friend is one of the best things about this board. I have asked many a noobish question and have not recieved any negative comments. That is truely refreshing, most boards on the net are choked with people that are very negative towards anything not them...
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#68712
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OT.com is so loved....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68712/action/topic#68712
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I think people take what the want away from here. I know in my brief time here i have had a great experience. THe amount of personal attacks here is minimal to various other MB i have visited, both star wars and otherwise. Also i think that if someone would merely pop in here and only spend a minimal amount of time that they wouldnt have a proper context of the people here. In reality i hold no grudge against GL, he can do as he pleases with his intellectual property, but because SW used to be a big thing in my life i sometime get overly frustrated and vent a bit. If one only come to the boards and visits the threads with the catchy titles such as "Intellegnce of fanboys" or "why the pt was doomed from the crawl" of course they are going to believe only negactive things about the populace of the boards. Not to mention that the majority of fans have an established presupposition of this site, believing it to be filled with bitter purist. In the end i would say they lack perspective....