Judge

Crash Bandicoot 3, Gran Turismo, Metal Gear Solid, Tony Hawk's 2... all classics.

No way.

mfastx said:

Judge said:

Uh. Okay.

 You misread my post.  When I said "leave the scenes as they are," I meant to not change the order of scenes, just update them visually. 

I can understand wanting to get rid of garbage mattes, fixing up non-linear movement, colour correction, and so forth. I just have no idea why someone would want to go back and 'improve' all of the FX shots with CGI.

mfastx said:

The only wishlist I have for ESB and ROTJ is just to edit visual effects so it doesn't look like the movie was made 30 years ago. 

just leave the scenes as they are, it's a classic Star Wars movie

Uh. Okay.

You want to talk about inconsistent quality, try watching Star Wars with headphones on. It sounds like they used like four different types of microphone during the overdub sessions.

I thought he was saying "This is the system. This is it."

mfastx said:

However, Shaw is just some random old dude who we've never seen before (don't tell me about how we saw him as Vader in the unmasking, I couldn't tell who the hell that was)

In that case, he's not 'some random old dude who we've never seen before', but 'some random old dude YOU'VE never seen'.

Shaw looks nothing like Anakin (who's supposed to look about 20 years younger). 

The prequel trilogy version of Anakin, you mean.

Oh yeah, I just thought of another really weird one. When Vader knocked Luke into the carbon freezing unit in ESB I thought he said 'Lord Wheezy', as opposed to 'all too easy'. My justification of this was that Vader was calling to one of the Ugnauts to turn on the machine for him. Or something.

Erikstormtrooper said:

Adywan, with a possible 2011 release date for the saga on Blu-Ray, do you have any plans to step up production on the AVCHDs of Jedi, Clones, & Sith?

I'd really love to get Jedi.

Jedi would be awesome. Not too bothered about the prequels.

mfastx said:

xhonzi said:

 

That is why you fail.

 Yes, you are correct.  I fail at thinking the PT "sucks."  They're just different types of films, made in different eras. 

With 'different' acting, storylines and special effects, right?

I'm not buying this boxset if it doesn't have a decent set of special features.

Sure, Empire of Dreams was alright, but I would rather watch Adywan's HD versions of the films than pay for another box full of crap.

Believable motivation

Terrible execution

I kind of liked the atmosphere in TFU, but could never really dig the gameplay. Hopefully they'll have sorted out all of the little problems (i.e. make it more like God of War) by the time TFU2 comes out.

TPM was the first one I saw. I went to the theatre with my Mum as a little kid and watched it, then rented it quite a few times after that - and eventually bought the VHS. The action was great, I had no idea what character development was, and the CGI looked real to me (imo the CGI in TPM is better than in AoTC/RoTS). Then I saw Toy Story 2. Irrelevant, right? Well, no. You see, in Toy Story 2, it turns out that the evil Emperor Zurg is Buzz Lightyear's father. As I was watching Toy Story 2, my Dad turned to me and said "You know where that's from!" and I was like, "What?" and then he was all "Star Wars! Darth Vader is Luke's father!"

That's right. My Dad ruined the Original Trilogy for me. I hadn't seen Empire Strikes Back before then, and I never got to experience it in the way that so many others did.

I didn't realise the significance of that at the time, though. I borrowed Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi on VHS (the pre-1997 versions, no less) and watched them religiously, until I was given the Special Edition boxset that Christmas. I was still in awe of it all; the Jabba scene astounded me ("How did they make a CGI character in 1977?! Wow!") and I would watch all of the films frequently - even though I thought of ESB as 'the most boringest' one.

Attack of the Clones rolled around, which I went to see a couple of times in the cinema. I didn't buy the VHS, as I kind of hated the love story - at the time I thought I was just plain immature but looking back on it now I realise that I never had a problem with the love story in ESB; the one in AoTC simply suffered from terrible execution. This was at the time and still is my most loathed film in the PT. The CGI was crappy, Anakin was a whiny teenager and I had no idea who Dooku or Sifo Dyas were.

Revenge of the Sith, I liked. I went to see it on opening night and grabbed a pizza beforehand. There were stormtroopers posing in the lobby, and the movie was simply a thrill - from the space battle at the beginning to the first appearance of the Emperor through to the image of the Death Star at the end. I was so caught up in the angst and special effects as a young teenager that I ranked this film above the Original Trilogy - something which I feel deeply ashamed of now.

It wasn't until I saw the RedLetterMedia reviews that I realised what a fucking mess the Star Wars prequels are. Not just the nitpicking, but watching clips from the films again demonstrated to me not only the awful CGI but the even more awful acting and scripting. I am now a total purist, and I don't really consider the prequels to be canon - the only information that I accept regarding the Old Republic era are snippets from pre-1997 video games and novels. They, in my opinion, captured the essence of the very brief allusions made by Kenobi in SW and RoTJ.

He looks like he has Disney eyes, sadly.

Just one question for Adywan - how are you creating the new Emperor?

As far as I can tell from the trailer the mouth is that of the 2004 version, with the rest of the face is from footage taken from Return of the Jedi. Am I right, or is it more complex than that?

Wow, too many to list. I'll just stick with the ones that spring to mind...

I thought Ackbar was called Ackbarn

I thought Tarkin was called Tock (you can't really hear the '-in' when Leia says it)

I thought the Emperor was like 1000 years old, not 80 (but who didn't?)

Same thing for Vader

I had no idea that the guy next to Obi-Wan and Yoda at the end of RoTJ was the same guy from five minutes previously

I thought the stormtroopers were robots

I didn't realise that Wedge was at the end of RoTJ, I thought it was just Luke hugging some random pilot. If you remember, we don't actually see Wedge with his helmet off until that moment, so I didn't recognise him.

EyeShotFirst said:

I want to make Anakin Skywalker a like-able character. As impossible as that may seem, I think I can do it.

I don't think it will be that hard, as long as you take absolutely no cues from the PT when designing his character. If you succeed in making him someone the audience can relate to, you will easily achieve the following:

- His downfall will be more tragic (perhaps take ideas from ancient tragedies, Shakespearean tragedies, etc.)

- Watching Luke grow up and edge nearer to the dark side, seeing how he might follow his father's fate, will have more of an impact on the audience

- The audience might actually believe Obi-Wan when he says that Anakin was a 'good friend'. It seemed like Obi-Wan kind of hated Anakin in the PT

Unfortunately, this also creates problems. If you really want to emphasise the tragedy in Anakin's transformation to Darth Vader, it will be near impossible to conceal the fact that he is Luke's father. It depends how you view these novels; if you see them as true 'prequels' which assume that the reader already knows the story of the OT, there's no problem. However, if you see them as earlier episodes in a saga then critical plot details have to be kept secret.

Darth Editous said:

One exception to this (at least) are Temuera Morrison's inserted lines in ESB - they are solely in the center channel, unlike Vader's lines in the same scenes.

Good job, LFL...

I know that The Beatles experimented with having all of the instruments on one side of the mix and all the vocals on the other side, but there's no way to separate vocals from music (or other things) really. You should be able to find isolated music tracks somewhere, though.

So, any word on when this might be available?

Burdokva said:

Well, there's no friction in space, and physics are not my strongest point, but doesn't an object in space accelerate continuously and the only limitation is essentially its driving mechanism? No gravity affecting the mass of the object? So, a Star Destroyer, with its huge engines and immensely powerful reactor should be a pretty fast vessel, when outside of combat, at least.

Good point.

doubleofive said:

I'm going to have a party and watch Ady's AVCHD ESB on the 21st, maybe watching ANHR beforehand. That is, if anyone comes. I promised cake!

Now that you mention it, I might do the same. Except mine will have cake that is Star Wars themed.

BmB said:

Burdokva said:

I've always though that the Falcon's flight trajectory was preset. After all, the technicians messed up its hyper-drive, maybe it was programmed to fly towards the Executor? Yes, it does have the plot-hole that they went to get Luke first, but still..

Also, I'm not sure how it is explained in the EU, but can a ship's tractor beam hold on to another ship, if the latter engages its hyper-drive engine? Maybe Lando and Chewie didn't care about the tractor beams (and thus flying towards the Executor), as long as they got the hyper-drive working.

 

Star Wars space physics is a strange thing, and a Star Destroyer is apparantly a very fast thing, able to keep up with the Falcon during the chase through open space. I figure they spotted the SSD, tried to fly away, but due to this unseen speed that is made to seem slow because of how massive the ships are, the Executor can still intercept the Falcon without it's modified hyperdrive. In ANH Han also boasts that he can outrun the "big corellian ships", which is apparantly a speed benchmark. Would make sense again that he empire posesses the best equipment.

And also in ANH the incoming star destroyer quickly catches up with the falcon, revelaing that the only arena in which the falcon can actually outrun them is hyperspace. "I thought you said his thing was fast?!"

I think one common misconception with the ships in Star Wars is that people think bigger = slower. Certainly if you compare a jet fighter to a cargo plane in our universe, the jet fighter will always be faster. However, if you compare a small freighter on Earth with say, a destroyer, the destroyer is usually quicker as it is engineered that way.  Even with all of Han's special modifications to the Falcon, it was still conceived as a freighter and as such the precision engineered Imperial warships are able to keep up most of the time. That's what I always thought, anyway.

Ha.