Jono11

Here are some links regarding that project:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Need-help-on-Series-Project-Enter-Kevin-Smith-Rarities-of-the-ViewAskewUniverse/topic/8532/

http://originaltrilogy.com/fan-edits/fan-project-details.cfm/Fan-Edits/title/Kevin-Smith-Rarities-of-the-ViewAskewUniverse-FAN-/project/155/category/4/

http://originaltrilogy.com/fan-edits/fan-project-details.cfm/Preservations/title/Kevin-Smith-Rarities-of-the-ViewAskewUniverse-Need/project/156/category/5/

http://originaltrilogy.com/fan-edits/fan-project-details.cfm/Workprints-and-Bootlegs/title/Kevin-Smith-Rarities-of-the-ViewAskewUniverse/project/157/category/8/

Here we are. Any progress on this?

LinkTGF said:

flip thru the dictionary and close your eyes and point to random words - then choose the best ones. That's what Kev did for Clerks I

 

rarities project? I remember something like that a while ago. I was doing a Trainwreck preservation that is just taking up space on my HDD now

I've never believed that Kevin actually did it that way for Clerks I. The words match up far too well. Denouement, Catharsis, and Vilification come immediately to mind.

Is that Trainwreck preservation completed? I know he was looking for somebody that had them all.

dark_jedi said:

I would be interested in this,I actually started to edit this myself,started making up title cards and already had the movie converted to B&W,but I did not want to degrade it at all(I personally do not like making it look that way)so it was a nice crisp B&W LOL,but I have since moved on and all my previous files got lost\deleted.

Good luck

Darn. Do you have any idea what some of your title cards were, just so I could have a starting point for making mine?

On a related note, does anybody know whatever happened to the ViewAskewUniverse Rarities project? I keep trying to contact the guy via the email address listed on fanedit.com, but I get no response.

LinkTGF said:

There are some deleted / extended scenes, but nothing that I think would alter it too much.

 

If you're trying to emulate the original Clerks, then definitely take into consideration cutting it how Kevin would have in 1994 and budget constraints, like the opening scene with the fire, definitely not in the original film's 27,000 dollar budget. Maybe you can have it start with them working at mooby's and use the drive by of the quick stop to on the drive to mooby's to explain that, or rather let the dialogue do the work for you. Back then Kevin relied HEAVILY on dialogue to move the story and it's the same here but he does provide the visuals most times in this one... so cutting out that kinda stuff would help.

 

Unfortunately, if doing it in that line of thinking, you might even have to cut out alot of wide exterior shots, the donkey show and such...

 

Also, if wanting to add something in to make it like Clerks, why not add in the Flying Car short film somewhere in there? maybe on the way to work? idk. maybe it's not even possible (diff model car, clothes, etc)

 

Just some ideas.

Yeah, there's gonna have to be some compromises in the sense that there are just way too many latter-day-Kevin shots in the film to really make it look like the first one. In the first one, there was no angling, everything was a straight-ahead shot at the subject, it was all very basic. The most complex camera work in the whole flick was the Big Choice Video scene, unless I'm forgetting something. So that's a compromise that has to happen. The "We totally do" bit, for example, one of the funniest Jay and Bob moments ever, doesn't look like a Clerks I shot.

I'm gonna go scene by scene and see what can stay and what absolutely must go. I think you're right about the fire scene, but I don't know how to replace it. I was thinking about that drive to Mooby's, but that's one of the things I want to cut. I don't like it. It's very un-Clerks. I wish Kevin would have filmed the Where's The Beef? stuff instead of making it a comic book. That drive in the car would have helped tremendously with cutting the fire scene. Still, the fire scene really does need to go, at least the part with the fire trucks.

I don't think the donkey show has to go. For one thing, I don't think it CAN go. Without that scene, the movie has no resolution. That's where Dante's relationship with Emma ends, his relationship with Becky begins, and everybody ends up in jail. The entire ending of the film is set up right there. But I don't think it's too much of a problem. It is a pretty glitzy shot, but hopefully it'll be the glitziest one in the entire re-cut.

I like your idea about adding in The Flying Car. I might even look at the Jay & Bob MTV shorts.

I'm gonna watch the film again and notate what I want to cut and change. I'll post that here, and then I'll start asking for suggestions. In the meantime, feel free to suggest away.

I probably can't help you. I've had quite a few FYOC and FYEC discs over the years, but basically nothing from ABC. I don't like their programming very much. I think the last season of Scrubs is the only thing they've had in years that I was interested in.

ThrowgnCpr said:

LinkTGF said:

@ ThrowgnCpr - I thought he only released an AVI or MPEG of that, not a full DVD, or am I mistaken?

 

A full DVD was released.  I think he sent it directly to me (and I put it up on RS), but really its not worth bothering with.  It looks so bad, that you may as well just look at the AVI.

And yes,  think this is definitely an edit that a first time editor can work on.  It wouldnt take a ton of cuts, and the filters are pretty easy in Vegas, or a comparable editing program.  Some extra things might be nice, like title cards to match Clerks 1 style, and possibly some music work.  But all in all, I dont think it would be a difficult edit.

Oh yes, title cards. Forgot to mention that. I also would like to do that. As far as music, the only changes I can think of off the bat would be replacing the opening music with something more akin to the Love Among Freaks song from the first film (or even just using the Love Among Freaks song).

Originally I wanted to cut the rooftop dancing scene, but I think it has to stay because it introduces the pregnancy subplot. Maybe I can cut out everybody else's dancing, resync the song, and have it be a shorter, Dante-and-Becky-only scene.

Also, are there any deleted scenes to consider? I'm still waiting for my Widescreen SE DVD to come in the mail.

What network showed it?

It's gonna take me awhile regardless, since I'm super-busy with a bunch of different projects at the moment. But I definitely want to do this. I watched Clerks II again recently and liked it a lot more than the first time, but I still want to see it in a more spare, Clerks I style.

Any progress on this?

I'm not thinking of anything too complex. It would be my first edit, if I did it, so I'd want to keep it simple, at least for the first time around. There's a couple of scenes I'd want to cut, a song I'd replace, and I'd want to make it all black-and-white. Does that sound like something a first-time editor could do?

I was looking at ADM's guide, and it's really exhaustive and informative, but I can't help feeling like it's over my head. I think I'm gonna have to just sit down and devote like a week to just figuring the stuff out.

Jens_Arvid_666 said:

I've got a copy. I was planning to a do a dvd preservation, but I don't have the technology.

VHS copy?

Well in that case I probably don't need to see it. Maybe I'll do it myself someday. Time to go look for some good tutorials on fan editing.

Does anybody know about this fan edit? I’ve only seen references to it. I can’t find any information on it, and I can’t find anybody that has it, or anywhere that it’s downloadable.

Clogged? I see three posts about the validity of the Bond reboot. Is that making it impossible to read the thread or something? It was a brief tangent that was already over.

Also, trying to stop off-topic complaining by complaining off-topic yourself makes as much sense as putting out a fire with gasoline.

skyjedi2005 said:

Makes me wish Pierce did not age so fast and was still James Bond.  I hate Daniel Craig as bond.  Not because of his acting which is for the most part pretty good because he looks nothing like james bond more like a bond villain.

Die Another day will be the last bond i have in my permanent collection, if not for grudgingly owning martin campbell's casino royale as a separate continuity on dvd.  As for the last film it was so poorly reviewed and received and never even bothered watching it.  Why did not Campbell direct Quantum?

I think just about everybody has been looking at the reboot Bond films all wrong. Non-fans saw Casino Royale as the absolute high-point of the series, basically because it was nothing like a James Bond film. Fans liked it but didn't think it felt "Bond" enough. Both sets of people disliked Quantum of Solace.

The reboot is simultaneously deconstructing and reconstructing James Bond. In Casino Royale, we got a stripped-down, bare-bones, run-of-the-mill secret agent character. He's just another agent. He's honestly closer to Harry Palmer than he is to any iteration of James Bond. Slowly, throughout the film, we started to see hints of the elements in his life that would create Bond, but nothing so noticeable as to be clear until the next film came out. Once Quantum arrived, the reconstruction/deconstruction process was full-on. It's clear now that the point of the reboot is to slowly build James Bond into the classic Connery or Brosnan character, from the starting point of a bland secret agent template. James Bond is unique; the reboot is out to show us how he got that way. In that respect, I think Casino Royale, Quantum of Solace, and Daniel Craig are doing a fantastic job.

Is there any change in status on this edit?

How can some of these discs be gotten? Are they torrented anywhere?

5acrifice said:I have every episode on DVD minus the 4 unaired ones

* 41: Tangiers 1908 (Aired: 0/0/0)
* 42: Morocco 1917 (Aired: 0/0/0)
* 43: Palestine, October 1917 (2) (Aired: 0/0/0)
* 44: Princeton 1919 (Aired: 0/0/0)

I have all the other broadcast versions. Nice menus and stuff too... anyone have those four episodes?

Is there a way to get these?

ReverendBeastly said:There are two versions of deleted scenes reels around: one runs about an hour, the other runs about two.

Where can those be gotten? Is all that footage in the Winter of Discontent/Stereo Video release?

Is this project still on hold?

Has it already been suggested to cut the fridge scene? I was watching the film the other night, and it seems like with some strategic cuts between the end of the rocket-sled ride and the scene with the federal agents, it could be made to appear that Indy just escaped to a military base, rather than a fake town.