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#318807
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EU books: Thats it..
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318807/action/topic#318807
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lordjedi said:

Um, no. Someone who listens to others with common interests, that's who. Hence why product reviews by customers (in this case book reviews by readers) are such a powerful tool. If a product is bad, enough people bitch which causes others to not buy it because it's bad and then it fails in the market.


True, but very rare is the product that every single consumer dislikes. There are fans of just about everything. Someone who reads this thread could potentially find enjoyment in the EU, but if they listened to Cable, they'd never know it.
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#318806
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EU books: Thats it..
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318806/action/topic#318806
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Cable-X1 said:

And you are??? You defend the PT and you claim to know quality?!?!?!?


I never claimed to be anything, and I didn't pronounce any sweeping judgments on a vast body of work, either. Again, you say this like quality is an absolute that can be measured. You're being a closed-minded, self-centered fool and you don't even realize it. People have different opinions about art. That's one of its defining traits.

Just because you think something is crap does not make it so. I think Ernest Hemingway was a sexist idiot who couldn't form a decent sentence and should have been shunned by anyone with a functioning sense of decency and taste... but I can tolerate those who swear by him because that's how art works. They see something I don't, and it brings them aesthetic pleasure. The same goes for you and people who like the PT and the EU, only your attitude seems to be "if I can't see it, it doesn't exist" and you talk down to those who can see it. Hate it all you want, just don't state your opinions as facts and then act scandalized when someone calls you on it.
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#318732
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EU books: Thats it..
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318732/action/topic#318732
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Cable-X1 said:

Don't listen to this guy...trust us...these books are hit or miss. Most of them suck ass so bad, you'll spend the rest of your life wanting the time you wasted on them back. Read the Thrawn trilogy...that's what I read and it was worth it. I read some others and they were total shit. And I mean they were SHIT...like the kind of shit you would have after eating a whole pizza and drinking a gallon of milk kind of shit!!! Don't bother. Save your money....and go buy something else that you'll enjoy....like Firefly or something.


Now you're just sounding like a child. What kind of person simply goes by the word of mouth and never keeps an open mind? A brainless sheep, that's who. If you think there's no way he could possibly enjoy something that you can't, then all that shows is your ignorance.
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#318731
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Crystall Skull has GL's fingerprints all over it
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318731/action/topic#318731
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Cable-X1 said:

I would put the work of a minature crew and a fucking matte painter against any CGI artist any day.....I've seen the classic SW documentaries. Those guys put themselves into their work. They actually breathed life into their creations. Life can't be breathed into 1s and 0s on a computer. CGI looks so lifeless. Yeah, it looks good and can look real...but it's soul-less.


I suppose it's just a matter of opinion, then. I think those 0's and 1's (when done well) have a lot more soul than a bunch of plastic and cardboard glued together and then blown up.
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#318672
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Crystall Skull has GL's fingerprints all over it
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318672/action/topic#318672
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bkev said:

My issue with CG is that it allows for filmmakers to be lazy. Before, a certain amount of creativity was involved in making something look real; now, you can hire a fucking video game designer to do all your work and buy a blue background for their job.


As opposed to hiring a fucking miniature crew and a fucking matte painter? There's absolutely no difference in the director's participation. They still just farm out the jobs to lackeys. And since when is difficulty directly proportional to quality? I can construct a Rube Goldberg device to fetch my newspaper for me, at the cost of thousands in materials and design, or I can just walk out the door and pick it up. Finding an easier way to do something isn't laziness, it's progress. It's how every industry on earth has streamlined its methods over the past 200 years. CGI is much more versatile than models, and it can look just as fake or just as real.
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#318572
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EU books: Thats it..
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318572/action/topic#318572
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Cable-X1 said:

Why are you even reading that shit?


Maybe because he enjoys it? You're not the supreme designator of a work's quality, you know. Some people feel as much connection to EU characters as they do to movie characters. And as awesome as Tolkien was, you don't think money was at the top of his priority list when he submitted his work to be published?
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#318471
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Oh yeah!!! Lucas...clueless as ever.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318471/action/topic#318471
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The explanation in the EU is that they aren't shields per se. They are scanning fields that try to detect any possible radiation leakage from the power core. The fields generated just happen to be dangerous to humans, who aren't even supposed to be there unless the whole thing is shut down. This is why I'm in the EU=Canon crowd. The other writers think through the things GL tends to ignore.
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#318017
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Oh yeah!!! Lucas...clueless as ever.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318017/action/topic#318017
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Cable-X1 said:

I agree that judging art is purely subjective, but as said above...that's getting to be an old argument for defending the PT. Have you ever taken an English literature class before? If you have, you've read the classics and if you had a teacher worth a damn, he or she would have imparted you with the wonderful ability to read between the lines and analyze such things as theme, metaphor and so on. The original SW is a archetype-laden story with some pretty deep thematic stuff at work. Where is that in the PT? Is it presented well? Is the storytelling style detrimental to the work as a whole? See when you look at it that way, the PT falls apart completely. Wanna debate further?


I wasn't necessarily defending the PT. I just used TPM as an example because I'm pretty sure most people here would be familiar with it. I was actually defending all forms of art that have been ignored by the so-called "intelligentsia". You know, the people who think they measure the worth of a piece of art by what can be read into it (in other words, how may blind guesses they have to make before they can justify its existence)? I've had plenty of Literature classes, and they all sucked (that's my subjective judgment). Since when have metaphors and themes made a quality work of art? I'll tell you what makes quality art: the enjoyment we, the audience, get out of it. If it doesn't entertain us, it's not worth shit. I don't care if your entire theory of existence, of all the world's problems, of life, the universe, and everything, is distilled into dramatic form. If we can't laugh, if we can't cry, if we can't cheer, then it was all a colossal waste of time. That's why one Ed Wood is worth a dozen Ernest Hemingway's. Ed made us laugh (however unintentionally), with his contrived plots, his unbelievable dialog, and his cheesy special effects. How many films have you seen that make you say, "I could do better than that!"? He made us feel good about ourselves. What did Hemingway do? He made us want to reenact his final moments.

I'm sorry if that was a little more aggressive than you expected, but you struck a nerve, there.
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#317995
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Oh yeah!!! Lucas...clueless as ever.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/317995/action/topic#317995
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The amount of venom in that first post is completely unnecessary. In the interest of fairness, however, you can't "objectively" call a movie dog shit. Unless, of course, dog shit was mixed with the celluloid prior to the making of the film. Judgments concerning the merit of a piece of art are inherently subjective. Someone who says TPM is the best movie of all time may stand in a very small crowd, but there's nothing you could do to prove him "wrong".

Fang Zei said:

It's just funny here how so much could be solved by so little. If George is going to keep doing all this stuff with Star Wars without giving us the oh so simple thing we're asking for, then indeed it would be better for Star Wars to die as quick a death as possible.


So, because he won't give a comparatively small amount of consumers exactly what they want, it's better that he deny any further products to the rest of us? Self-centered, much?
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#317852
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Robert Harris Godfather Restoration WHY cannot lucas restore the oot ?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/317852/action/topic#317852
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skyjedi2005 said:

that depends on whether the movie is good and whether the fans accept it as canon. if it sucks we will pretend does not exist like the prequels and the special editions.


I don't know what the rules are in your world, but the fans have absolutely no say in what is or is not canon. That is the sole right of whoever owns the franchise. The PT and SE are canon, and have been since they were first released. Nothing we say can change that. Feel free to bitch about it (we all do, eventually), but first realize that you are utterly powerless.
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#317215
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What should be bannable offenses on Originaltrilogy forums?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/317215/action/topic#317215
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lordjedi said:

HAHAHAHA! That has got to be the biggest joke I've ever heard. Stop with the scare mongering. Go ahead and prove it. Here's an email address: findmenowyo@yahoo.com. Now get me all the details on it and I might believe you. Feel free to PM those details to me.


Let's see here: You live in Kazook, Missouri. Your father's name was Itchy, you have a wife named Malla, and a son named Lumpy. And you're a closet furry with a fetish for pregnant squirrels. Feel stupid now, don't ya?
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#317174
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What order would you show the Star Wars movies to your kids?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/317174/action/topic#317174
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Cable-X1 said:

I would show my younglings the original versions of Star Wars, Empire and Jedi in that order.

There's nothing else to show...

If they discover anything else after that, that's their business. I will not be the one to show them any of the shit that came afterwards.


Bitter, much? So you would stick to your own OT fundamentalism instead of introducing your kid to three movies (just movies, mind you) that they might potentially enjoy? If they don't like the PT either, just shut it off, but to not show it to them just because of your own aesthetic tastes is disturbingly extreme.
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#317077
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What should be bannable offenses on Originaltrilogy forums?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/317077/action/topic#317077
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Arnie.d said:

Well, that's the kind of law that's easily abused. So if you want to legally kill someone you only have to trick them to set foot on your property and you shoot them. Or what if you are hiking somewhere and you step onto someone's property without even knowing it, you risk getting shot.


The law says they have the right to shoot them, no that they have to shoot them. Any rational person wouldn't shoot a tresspasser on sight unless they saw a weapon (or recognized the person as a dangerous individual). Hunters may still need to watch where they step, but surveying the terrain is part of any good hunter's preparation. As for tricking them onto the property, that's harder to get away with than you might think (without leaving potential evidence or witnesses behind, anyway).
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#317063
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Possible 30th Anniversary Airing of the Holiday Special?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/317063/action/topic#317063
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0193524/board/nest/79468847

Apparently, an Australian TV station of some sorts wants to air the Holiday Special this year for its 30th anniversary. Currently it's "in talks," which means we can almost count on GL nixing the idea, but at least there's a modicum of hope. If by some miracle it does air, though, get your ****ing DVRs ready! We may finally get a better-quality copy than the KCCI version.