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#224440
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Star Wars in High Definition: OT clips from "Science of Star Wars" in HD
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Originally posted by: Tiptup
Originally posted by: Jobel

There's still this bizarre idea that capacity = better for a movie playback platform. The plain and simple fact is that a VC1/AVC encoded movie will not need 50GB. Not even with extreme picture quality. Not even with the inclusion of lossless audio codecs.

Uhh, so, you believe the amount of data a disk can hold doesn’t matter? Is that why I have a two 200 GB hard drives on my computer?

There are many useful reasons to support a format that has higher storage capacity beyond simply watching a single movie. It’s ridiculous to simply toss aside such an advantage lightly. If we’re going to have some new format forced on us by electronics and entertainment companies, then I say we should get the one that is more versatile and will last longer in general.


Originally posted by: Jobel

At the end of the day, the Bluray discs have so far delivered disappointing image quality compared to HD-DVD. I think that speaks for itself.


According to what objective standard? Image resolution? Visual compression? Frame rate? If so, those elements are decided by the type of codec used and the way it is used, not the disc format.

Even then, I don’t quite understand your attacks on Mpeg-2. Maybe it is disappointing as you say, but I’m guessing your sources on that are not analytical. I could be wrong and Mpeg-2 could truly be as inferior to VC-1 as you claim and, if it is, I’m willing to be educated on those technical details.

Either way, Blu-ray players handle all of the same codecs that HD-DVD players can work with. It is the content providers that decide to use the Mpeg-2 codec when placing the actual data on the Blu-ray discs, not the discs or the players. At the very most, Blu-ray is not a mature technology yet and you’re expecting too much, too soon. It won’t be long at all before it uses other codecs if they truly offer so much more.




Sorry, I'm not buying your argument. It's based purely on a bit more capacity (which is pointless anyway). If you want capacity get a HDD. If you want to be forced to pay double the price just for a disc with a bit more space on it (again who needs it when consumers can just use a HDD) then be my guest. Enjoy bleeding your wallet dry for a format that wants to copyprotect to death.

I personally think HD-DVD will win the war based on it's name alone. The brand name is just too familiar for it to lose.

People won't get what Bluray is without it being explained. They will be hesitant to support anything sony has it's hand in. They don't exactly have a great track record.

At the end of the day, Bluray is trying to be revolutionary (and failing so far) just for the idea of it, rather than any actual demand for it.

I'm willing to give them a chance once they start putting out discs that offer image quality that is at least as good as what HD-DVD have put out, but until then, the ball is no longer in their court.

We shall see what happens.



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#224275
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Star Wars in High Definition: OT clips from "Science of Star Wars" in HD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/224275/action/topic#224275
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First, Blu-Ray discs have far more capacity than HD-DVDs so there's no doubt which format is more advanced and deserving to replace DVD in that respect. A single layered HD-DVD holds 15 GBs while a single layed Blu-Ray holds 23-25 GBs. That's a huge difference (10 GBs). If you double the layers then you only double the capacity of each disc (30 GB vs 50 GB). (In addition, as a hybrid disc, a BD can fit an entire 8.5 GB DVD on its second layer while HD-DVD requires you to use the other side of the disk to achieve hybrid status. A single layer BD holds almost as much as a dual layered HD-DVD.

There's still this bizarre idea that capacity = better for a movie playback platform. The plain and simple fact is that a VC1/AVC encoded movie will not need 50GB. Not even with extreme picture quality. Not even with the inclusion of lossless audio codecs.

Short of movies coming with hours upon hours of extreme encoded HD extras, 30GB is more than enough space. There could well be a case of HD-DVD movie releases spanning onto two disks if things really get silly, but even then it will work to HD-DVD's advantage - 'Two Disk Collector's Set' is a better marketing spin than 'One DIsk Collector's Set'.

In real world scenarios, it all comes to down to TV series boxsets: less episodes per disk on HD-DVD if both formats use VC1/AVC. But less episodes per disk for Blu-Ray if they insist on using MPEG2.

At the end of the day, the Bluray discs have so far delivered disappointing image quality compared to HD-DVD. I think that speaks for itself.


For one thing, BD will read and burn data faster than HD-DVD.


Bandwidth between the two is pretty much the same actually.

Blu-Ray most certainly is not the only proper option. HD-DVD is just as 'proper.' That's the whole point, the formats are interchangeable. Being an advocate of either is ludicrous.
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#224164
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Star Wars in High Definition: OT clips from "Science of Star Wars" in HD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/224164/action/topic#224164
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The consensus is that the HD-DVD discs look amazing and have used the VC-1 codec. But Bluray have opted to use that old MPEG2 codec and they just don't look as good. Bluray have been shooting their mouth off for years now about how much better they will be and they haven't delivered. Meanwhile HD-DVD has become the enthusiasts choice and people have even figured out how to author their own HD-DVD discs playable back on the machine.

HD-DVD hardware is half the price of Bluray hardware too. Consumers will vote with their wallets here.
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#219968
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Idea: a Preservation of the 'Captain Power: The Legend Begins' TV Movie
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http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/4733/cpcoverpreview22ec.jpg

This is a personal project for myself, but it would be interesting to see if it has any interest. The TV Movie of Captain Power and the Soldiers Of The Future. Basically it’s some of the core TV episodes with linking narration edited into a 90 minute film. The complete series can be found if you look around, but for me this TV Movie, which was released on PAL VHS in the early 90s, is worth preserving too.

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#217983
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Info & Help: Looking for... Raiders Of The Lost Ark - on HDTV
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Originally posted by: ChainsawAsh
Way it sounds, Laserschwert's is the theatrical release ... any chance of an SD-DVD downgrade of that transfer?



Seeing as it sounds as it's the source for the DVDs, why would an SD-DVD downgrade be any different from the actual DVD?

Temple Of Doom had all the bad matte lines removed from the waterfall scene and footage re-graded to match the background. A welcome improvement IMO as those shots stood out a mile as being fake.