Ok, at 0:20 in the new clip just as the transports are taking off, you can see the Ion Canon extending out of it's orb base like it did earlier. Shouldn't it be abandoned after the evacuation code was given?
Would now be an appropriate time to talk about the edit a little bit? There is something I caught in the five-minute video that was posted that I have a question about.
Understood and approved Adywan. Take good care of your family.
Thanks for posting the video before the goal was met. I'm really enjoying what's been done. :)
Happy Birthday Adywan!
I wish you the best of luck Brash. Sound is by far my favorite element in films and this projects looks to be promising.
And good to know another Mac user!
adywan said: And this trooper thing has me surprised. I released a clip a long time ago of the hangar entrance and the added troopers were in the but the only comments ever made about it was about the trooper i added next to the turret that was looking through the binoculars. Not one comment about the troopers that walk into shot for the last few frames. Well i'm not changing it, and how the hell can this be compared to the bloody Ronto shot?
Well, that shows me I guess.... I mean, when I started the discussion involving the troopers, I never brought up or even mentioned the Ronto in my post. I simply said that I found the added troopers distracting on a visual level that threw off the transition from outside of the cave to the inside. That's it.
It wasn't my intent to start a heated debate even if you said you weren't going to change it. But is it really necessary to disregard my comment simply because I didn't make the point in your earlier video? I didn't get to see the original video so all I'm doing here is commenting on this new video that you posted.
*ponders for a bit*
/inhales
Can we please have the rotating star field back? :(
ImperialFighter said:
I happen to like the momentary close-up of the rebel at the very end of the shot, as we've already followed the full movement of Han's Taun-Taun heading into the entrance by this point anyway...and I reckon it does indeed add a subtle feeling of extra 'activity' happening outside the base.
Usually in circumstances like this when the full movement of the Taun-Taun is done, that's when we cut from outside of the base to the inside. In the original, it worked just fine. Han is approaching a cave that has very little activity going on, and we cut to the inside of the cave where there is a lot more activity going on. I personally don't believe the establishing shot of the base entrance benefits from more activity when it's primary purpose is to establish the interior of the base that has almost all of the activity.
And in regards to these comments, I never compared these two added rebel officers to the ronto from the Special Edition of Star Wars. That was just bad looking CGI that was totally out of place. Where as here, I can totally see a shot like the one Adywan did here. I just don't think it's a very good one. The timing and placement just feels off. If they had to stay, I would probably have officers walk in the opposite direction from the start of the shot instead of at the end. After all, they would be walking in the same direction of the transition wipe, and when they leave the screen, Han will be the only thing left, thus making the cut to the inside of the base feel more natural.
Great job so far Adywan. I really liked what you did with the coloring on Han's rescue of Luke. Very appropriate. If there's one thing that stood out for me that I would like to address, it's this shot.
This added rebel trooper is just poking me in a bad way. I'm watching the shot of Han riding back into the rebel base when all of a sudden this big beige colored thing comes in and takes up the almost half of the screen than we instantly cut to the inside of the base. To me, it makes the cut from outside to inside feel a bit disjointed because the added trooper takes so much of my attention away from Han.
I say go all out with the menus. The one for ANH Revisited was on the level (if not above) with the current Star Wars DVD menus. The work done on it is better than a lot of high studio menus that are out there today. I would love to see what would be done on ESB Revisited.
Gold Leader: Switch to targeting computer. Uh- (cuts him off and goes to targeting display)
Anyone else notice that or is it just me?
doubleofive said:
The problem without the scout walkers is that they appear for two shots and disappear in the next. The one that passes by Luke should be seen in the next shot of his POV of the walker he just blew up. For continuity's sake, it's better to have none than two disappearing ones in my opinion.
Here's an idea. Why don't we just move the first shot of the ATST from earlier in the battle to the end? Like at the point where you see the rebel ground troops fleeing just before Luke destroys that single AT-AT by himself. You can establish the ATST somewhere during the rebels retreat, and after Luke destroys the AT-AT, you see it again.
So.....the blank shells stay?
Question. Are the blank shells coming out of the blasters going to remain?
Well done.
I really liked how you modified that little red light thing that C-3P0 bumps his head into from moving out of place. Gotta make the Falcon a tough ship, you know?
Also gotta give a shout out to the Falcon's engine thrust transitioning to the wind filled chasm. Nice callback to ANH as well.
Like this?
doubleofive said: I'm 26
And I'm 25. So what?
Oh, if you do manage to get the Special Longer Edition from Fan, let me know. I've requested the updated version, but he hasn't replied to me yet. :(
That's odd. You seem to be a pretty knowledgeable person when it comes to movies, trivia and all sorts of stuff five. Now that you're here showcasing all this stuff about recutting TMP, you've never seen the theatrical cut?! This is so odd.
Oh! I found a little something thanks to the kind folks from Trekbbs. It involves dials on that little diagram that's in the middle od the navigator and helms station situation in front of Kirk.
Part 1: http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tmphd/tmphd0759.jpg
Part 2: http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tmphd/tmphd0760.jpg
See the little dial with the red center? It moves from left to right. Funny thing is, it's not a flipped shot. They actually changed the position of the dial between shots!
Just wait till you hear the computer's voice. It will forever haunt you.
doubleofive said:
You know Jeyl, it seems like you don't like any of the changes FF is making... What do you want to be fanedited? :-P
Not like his changes? What gave you that impression? It's his edit and I'm anxious to see what he'll turn up. Have I not thrown in suggestions here and there about how I would edit things differently? Just because I say that there's one line in the film that doesn't bother me doesn't meean I don't like any of what he's going to change.
Relax. I'm not here trying to stop anyone.
doubleofive said: I'm saying if AltUhura had magic alien powers that she never uses and was replaced by a robot halfway through the movie then vanishes at the end, sure, we can cut it out.
But Ilia does use alien powers, at least in the Director's Edition. She uses her powers to relieve Chekov of his pain after being electrocuted. And who knows? Maybe Ilia telling Kirk about her oath was her way of stating to him "Not going to happen" in a professional manner. She doesn't really have a friendly expression going on when she says it to his face!
doubleofive said:I think it has to do with the fact that it doesn't really matter and never comes up again.
Oh really? You want to delete details about a character that don't really matter and never comes up again? Hmm.....
Details about Uhura in the new Star Trek movie:
She's a Xenolinguistics major that involves the study of alien languages, phonology, morphology and syntax. She has incredible hearing. She was the top student of her class, has on multiple occasions demonstrated exceptional aural sensitivity and unparalleled abilities to identify sonic anomalies. She can also speak Romulan in three different dialects.
For the grand prize doubleofive, how many of these said skills are actually put to good use?
Could you start by explaining why exactly it has to go? Not saying it shouldn't go, but that exchange never really bothered me because.....I don't know. It just doesn't. Even when I was a kid who didn't know what celibacy was, I never asked.