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All I can say is .... the answer to your question is totally subjective. It will all depend on what you like, what you're expecting to see, and what is actually available.
Glad to see you got leads on what to check out.
:)
Unfortunately, he's the one with the disc .... maybe he'll shut it down if too many people start asking for links. It's anyone's guess really.
I would certainly like to check this out as well. A pm with links would be great.
Fine job on the presentation TeamBlu .... it really looks great.
:)
CapableMetal said:
StarThoughts said:
Question: How does the theatrical DTS standard differ from the home video incarnation (assuming 1536 kb/s)? How much advantage is gained by presenting it in DTS-MA? Or is it just being done in this manner to avoid any possible transcoding issues?
I agree with Jetrell Fo insomuch as that I cannot speak for how TeamBlu are processing their audio, but from a purely factual point of view I can answer this question.
Theatrical DTS is not 1536kbit/s, in fact its not even close. Its encoded at 882kbit/s so that it can fit onto two CD-ROM's (some longer films use three), so its not lossless. It also has a sample rate of 44.1KHz @16-bit compared to DVD's 48KHz@16 or 24-bit sample rate. The audio on the discs is also mastered for cinema, so its very loud compared to a home-media DTS track.
That said, my opinion (having extensively worked on the whole trilogy last year) is that they do sound excellent, certainly better than the 1997 Laserdisc audio and are the best way to experience the '97 SE's.
There is absolutely nothing to lose by encoding them to DTS-HD MA because its backwards compatible with DTS. If the lossless 'extention' is not used, then the DTS-HD file will be the same size as a regular DTS file because thats what the 'core' of a DTS-HD MA audio track is, meaning its backwards compatible with DTS. There are no transcoding issues because the audio can only be extracted directly to WAV before you can do anything with it, so from then on it is 'lossless'.
I'm just looking forward to hearing it all along with the best visual representation possible (even if it is the SE!). I'm sure TeamBlu have done a first-class job, as usual!
Thanks Capable .... very understandable explanation. I too, look forward to the SE's finally having a good visual representation with awesome audio to boot. I enjoy the SE as a stand alone set. It deserves proper a preservation.
Is there any WIP artwork for this set yet?
Is there anyone here who doesn't have the 1999 THX that wants it?
PM me.
Andrea,
Just so you know, the TV Cut is in the same aspect ratio as the Theatrical cut in the 1999 Limited Edition set. It's 2:35:1. I do not know if this is helpful to your or not.
:)
coltonlolz said:
Is anyone willing to do a transfer of the 1997 Special Edition VHS tapes on this forum? They have a different transfer of the movie than the 1982 VHS tapes or LaserDiscs.
I would like to politely point out that you are stating the obvious here. The 1982 VHS/LD versions could not be the SE versions because they were released in 1982, not 1997. I'm not complaining or trying to be mean, I'm just saying.
:)
LOL
TV's Frink said:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Alert-my-Star-Destroyer-to-prepare-for-my-arrival-What-was-the-point/topic/10993/
Maybe a petition for a new search function is in order.
:)
Kamdan said:
It's one of the multiple tracks on the Despecialized Edition of A New Hope.
If you aren't in the market to buy the DVD why don't you just send Harmy a pm? I'm sure he'd be able to answer your question since you heard it on one of his projects.
:)
StarThoughts said:
Question: How does the theatrical DTS standard differ from the home video incarnation (assuming 1536 kb/s)? How much advantage is gained by presenting it in DTS-MA? Or is it just being done in this manner to avoid any possible transcoding issues?
Since having more than one version of the same answer is redundant TeamBlu will be able to handle this question since only they know how they processed it with the resources available.
stretch009 said:
Jetrell Fo said:
Is the WOWWOW version available anywhere for one to get and see for themselves?
:)
nzbclub.com :
search: raiders w23
(this one has English audio)
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Rutracker.org has a 20gb uncompressed WOWOW also. (also has English Audio)
Thanks stretch, found it.
Sorry, mute post.
Apparently it's no longer available......
"Post 40331125 does not exist" is the message I get.
:(
Is the WOWWOW version available anywhere for one to get and see for themselves?
:)
You_Too said:
@Hal 9000: The DTS-HD MA tracks are sourced from the theatrical DTS discs. The Dolby digital tracks are from the Laserdiscs.
I am glad to hear the cinema discs are being utilized. Very exciting news for all of us.
:)
I'm just saying .... this really all comes down to preference, not official word from Dean Cundey.
I love Halloween. The Criterion LD & the 1999 THX DVD are my favorite go to's for this movie. I have the Divimax which is cleaner & a bit bright but it's my 3rd choice if I'm feeling nostalgic for Divimax, LOL.
Turisu said:
Chewtobacca said:
Andrea, could you post some comparisons of the LD and the 35th Anniversary BD? The LD screenshot posted above looks similar but not the same, and I'm not convinced.
The colours are definitely stronger in the LD timing. But colours and levels were often pumped up for home video releases (hence the overly bright sky). For what it's worth, Dean Cundey had this to say about past home video releases of Halloween and the 35th Anniversary BD:
"Dean Cundey: I was approached actually; John had looked at this new version and thought it looked really good, but suggested that I go in to oversee some final work on it so that fans would finally have the version they deserve. See, a lot of the previous editions were made from a print or a previous digital version and the people working on those versions were just doing what they thought was right. When you have a Xerox of a Xerox of a Xerox though, that just doesn’t translate; things get skewed.
So I was very impressed by the fact that, for this release, they used the original camera material because they wanted to make this the definitive version. For me, it’s the most accurate portrayal of how John and I wanted Halloween to be seen. Most fans have never seen Halloween the right way either between all the TV, VHS and DVD versions over the years so this Blu-ray is really something special."
Source: http://dailydead.com/exclusive-dean-cundey-reflects-halloween-career-talks-new-transfer/
Didn't he same something similar about the 1999 THX release?
Video already taken down ..... :(
Andrea, I will help with what I can, let me know.
Shawn
I watch this with intense interest.
:)
althor1138 said:
I really wish I had access to two more sets of the JSC at this point. I could do a toot between 3 sets for a total of 9 captures and probably eliminate all of the rot and dropouts.
EDIT: Actually anybody that owns the set and wants to participate can send me their set and I'll send them back to you with your raw capture saved on a stick or something.
I actually have a set coming in the mail. Where are you located?
Is there a chance anyone here might be able to come up with this?
Thanks
BillyBoy said:
I would be happy to trade with others.
I'm confused. This started out as a thread for a project that could be shared freely if completed but you are willing to trade?
That kind of defeats the purpose of sharing freely don't you think? Not trying to be mean, just saying.
Not to mention the youtube videos used are a downgrade from Bluray or even SD material.
You might want to rethink your strategy a bit with this.
Helpplease said:
thank you very much to everyone.... link received
If you only want to ask for a MySpleen invite, please go here:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/An-invite-to-MySpleen-net/topic/8592/
Please read next time .... these things really clog up threads.
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
If you get an AG-1980, do some research and learn how to properly clean the heads. Don't use a head cleaning tape, do it correctly and with the right kind of swabs. It's actually not that hard, but you do have to be careful. Cleaning the heads can also make a noticeable difference in the quality of the capture.
Puggo,
Any chance you'd share some editing experience of yours with the AG1980? It would seem that I might need some tutelage on using different modes and cleaning. I've never used mine in edit mode nor have I ever used NOR so I am going to have to learn.
Thanks
Time for thrift store shopping Moth3r ..... that would be my suggestion if you either can't fix it or it costs too much to have it repaired elsewhere. I have a nice TEAC A-106 that I got at a thrift store for like $4.99. $80.00 later it runs like a champ and was well worth the trip to the repair shop.
You're making mp3's? ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww..... LOL