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#1097337
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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yhwx said:

Unrelated rant I intended to post a couple of days ago:

I don’t really like any of the political labels. You know, the words we all know — like “liberal,” “centrist,” “conservative” and many others. I’m not even a fan of the new #BernieBro buzzword “progressive.”

I don’t really like any of the political labels.

#BernieBro

buzzword

Hmm.

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#1097316
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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darthrush said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

Meaning you’ve got biases that have been installed into you by decades of exposure to racist media, housing policies, schools, family, friends, etc. It’s a nice way of saying you’re racist, but using the broad definition that includes pretty much all Americans, and doesn’t mean you’re actively trying to perpetuate these things.

*sigh* 😐

Relevant.

For Christ’s sake.

Warbler has shown nothing that would make you think he is racist and to assume that someone is racist without any evidence is just awful. Half of this race talk is just virtue signaling from the left and does nothing to help solve issues in America.

Growing up in an inherently racist society has tainted his soul, tinged him racist, and he can only be absolved of his racism by recognizing his sinful nature and asking for forgiveness. Shit, I think I messed up somewhere.

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#1097266
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

yhwx said:

In other news:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/world/asia/trump-guam-governor-phone-call.html

HAGÅTÑA, Guam — If there’s one thing that Guam does not have to worry about while the tiny island is in the nuclear cross hairs of North Korea, it’s tourism, President Trump told the island’s governor in a phone call made public on Saturday.

The threat by North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, to create “an enveloping fire” around the tiny United States territory in the Western Pacific will boost Guam tourism “tenfold,” Mr. Trump said in the recorded conversation with Gov. Eddie Calvo.

The recording was put on the Republican governor’s Facebook page and other social media accounts.

Mr. Trump said: “I have to tell you, you have become extremely famous all over the world. They are talking about Guam; and they’re talking about you.” And when it comes to tourism, he added, “I can say this: You’re going to go up, like, tenfold with the expenditure of no money.”

In other other news:

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/12/542982015/home-to-university-of-virginia-prepares-for-violence-at-white-nationalist-rally

Virginia’s governor has declared a state of emergency amid violent clashes between hundreds of protestors in Charlottesville, Va.

The move comes ahead of a white nationalist rally planned in the small town to protest plans to remove a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee from a city park. Saturday morning, protesters and counter-protesters faced off and kicked and punched, hurled water bottles and deployed chemical sprays against each other.

The declaration by Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe was made in order to “aid state response to violence” at the rally in the city about 120 miles southwest of Washington, D.C. The city’s manager also declared a local emergency and police ordered people to disperse from the area around the statue, according to The Associated Press.

The “Unite the Right” rally is expected to draw a lot of people from out of town. It follows last month’s Ku Klux Klan rally that drew about 50 Klan members and about 1,000 counter-protesters.

After the violent outbursts, politicians tweeted their disdain at the events in Charlottesville. House Speaker Paul Ryan called the views of the white nationalists “repugnant,” and called for Americans to unite against “this kind of vile bigotry.”

Guam, come for the beautiful beaches and clear blue waters.

Stay for the impending nuclear strikes.

I hate to say, I am sure I am going to get called crazy, but I think if that nut fires a nuke anywere near Guam, I think it is time to nuke N. Korea, especially wherever the nut is located.

Great way to totally annihilate hundreds of thousands to millions of people, North Korean and otherwise.

Would you rather them get annihilated or part of America? I’d like to get this nut stopped before he can nuke Los Angles or San Francisco.

I’d prefer we deescalate immediately. What incentive would they have to preemptively strike us? Even if Kim is insane, he must know that striking us would end in the utter annihilation of his country.

Maybe just use enough nukes to get the leader and knock out N. Korea’s nuclear capabilities.

I wish, but it’s just not possible to knock out all of their nuclear capabilities before they’re able to fire back.

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#1097263
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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We shouldn’t pre-emptively nuke North Korea for a few reasons;

  1. The nuclear fallout would devastate the area, meaning China and South Korea.

  2. We don’t know where all of their missile sites are, and at least some are underground. If we don’t get all of their missile sites, which we won’t, they will respond with their nuclear arsenal.

  3. China would likely take the side of North Korea, and may even respond with their own nuclear arsenal.

  4. The second we attack North Korea, they’re going to attack Seoul. We’re talking a massive artillery strike.

For further reading:

https://www.quora.com/Why-cant-USA-drop-nuclear-bombs-on-North-Korea-2016–17

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#1097243
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

yhwx said:

In other news:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/world/asia/trump-guam-governor-phone-call.html

HAGÅTÑA, Guam — If there’s one thing that Guam does not have to worry about while the tiny island is in the nuclear cross hairs of North Korea, it’s tourism, President Trump told the island’s governor in a phone call made public on Saturday.

The threat by North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, to create “an enveloping fire” around the tiny United States territory in the Western Pacific will boost Guam tourism “tenfold,” Mr. Trump said in the recorded conversation with Gov. Eddie Calvo.

The recording was put on the Republican governor’s Facebook page and other social media accounts.

Mr. Trump said: “I have to tell you, you have become extremely famous all over the world. They are talking about Guam; and they’re talking about you.” And when it comes to tourism, he added, “I can say this: You’re going to go up, like, tenfold with the expenditure of no money.”

In other other news:

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/12/542982015/home-to-university-of-virginia-prepares-for-violence-at-white-nationalist-rally

Virginia’s governor has declared a state of emergency amid violent clashes between hundreds of protestors in Charlottesville, Va.

The move comes ahead of a white nationalist rally planned in the small town to protest plans to remove a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee from a city park. Saturday morning, protesters and counter-protesters faced off and kicked and punched, hurled water bottles and deployed chemical sprays against each other.

The declaration by Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe was made in order to “aid state response to violence” at the rally in the city about 120 miles southwest of Washington, D.C. The city’s manager also declared a local emergency and police ordered people to disperse from the area around the statue, according to The Associated Press.

The “Unite the Right” rally is expected to draw a lot of people from out of town. It follows last month’s Ku Klux Klan rally that drew about 50 Klan members and about 1,000 counter-protesters.

After the violent outbursts, politicians tweeted their disdain at the events in Charlottesville. House Speaker Paul Ryan called the views of the white nationalists “repugnant,” and called for Americans to unite against “this kind of vile bigotry.”

Guam, come for the beautiful beaches and clear blue waters.

Stay for the impending nuclear strikes.

I hate to say, I am sure I am going to get called crazy, but I think if that nut fires a nuke anywere near Guam, I think it is time to nuke N. Korea, especially wherever the nut is located.

Great way to totally annihilate hundreds of thousands to millions of people, North Korean and otherwise.

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#1097218
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

Warbler said:

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

darthrush said:

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

Warbler said:

For those that don’t like the term colorblind:

If I were the boss of a company looking to hire an accountant, what would be wrong in being colorblind in my choice?

Nothing, it would be great. But how exactly are you going to achieve that?

By not being racist? Deciding to analyze them based upon their merit?

And this is verified how?

what do you mean?

Also, if I’m the CEO of some giant company, I may have to delegate the hiring process to senior employees below me. Even if I honestly want the hiring process to be “color-blind”, how am I going to guarantee that happens? How can I verify that my employees acted in a color-blind way? By accepting that it’s true if they say so? There generally need to be processes in place to ensure it is systemic and verifiable. Otherwise nobody would have any reason to believe it - it’s just words. It also wouldn’t hold up in court.

Maybe everyone could wear masks 😛

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#1096901
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

Let me rephrase it: Why did no one at Walmart realize that something was wrong with this picture before allowing customers to see it?

Maybe they didn’t notice that someone had messed with the sign until someone pointed it out.

You think someone messed with the sign??

Absolutely, what would the alternative be? That Walmart intended to label guns as back to school items? For what purpose, what would they stand to gain? I’d bet it’s either an edgelord customer who thought it would be funny (similar to moving the Bible to the fiction section in a bookstore) or a rogue employee that doesn’t give a shit about his soul-crushing job and really can’t wait to be fired. I’d say the the former is much more likely than the latter, but it’s still a possibility. Either way, low level employee is as far up the ladder as it goes.

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#1096747
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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darthrush said:

CatBus said:

darthrush said:

postmodernist, speech controlling, identity-politics

Trump grabbed these things with both hands and ran the board with them. At the very least, the overwhelming success of identity politics in 2016 guarantees it a long life.

He used identity politics but he sure as hell had no problem advocating for free speech. If there was one thing I liked about trump was that he stood for free speech. That doesn’t excuse the fact that he’s an egotistical, incompetent, unqualified person for president. But he sure as hell doesn’t stand against free speech like the left does.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/06/showbiz/trump-bill-maher-suit/index.html

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#1096307
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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chyron8472 said:

What I want to know is–and I’m asking the conservatives and/or Republicans here–why in God’s name conservatives voted for Donald Trump. Not necessarily against Hillary, as she has more than enough obvious reasons to be thoroughly disliked–but in the primaries.

I know people liked him as a protest candidate against the status quo, but voting for a protest candidate is one thing; voting for Donald Trump is something completely different. So many people knew for the longest time that he cares little for anybody but himself, he’s short tempered, uneducated, listens to conspiracy theorists, and is generally out of touch with the common man.

This is a legitimate question, not a rant nor a flamebait.

I don’t think there are any Trump voters left in here.

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#1096038
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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darth_ender said:

chyron8472 said:

darth_ender said:

Warbler said:

Do you include me in your list of “self-righteous jerks”? You did say “I can’t engage with any of you.”.

I’m tired and irritable and not in the mood to put up with how liberals describe my views on abortion. You’re not part of that crowd. This thread is just not fun anymore, and this is why hardly post in it anymore.

Oh, shut up. We weren’t describing your views on abortion. We were discussing what labels regarding stance on abortion may (or may not) be more (or less) accurate in general, and our individual opinions of why they might or might not be accurate.

Now, instead of using liberal as an epithet and putting everyone of apparently opposing view in a box while complaining about how they put you in a box, why don’t you be an adult and actually try having an intelligent rational conversation.

I’m very sorry that I offended you by stating that the Left is overgeneralizing. How dare I broach such a sensitive topic with such callousness. I feel awful that I hurt your feelings!

Ryan McAvoy said:

yhwx said:

everybody likes choice

Not everybody. That’s the point isn’t it?

Jeebus said:

What about pro and anti-choice?

So if someone opposes abortion, that means they oppose choice? It doesn’t mean they hold life sacred from conception? It doesn’t mean they value the future of the child?

They oppose someone having the choice to abort.

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#1095832
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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yhwx said:

NeverarGreat said:

yhwx said:

Jeebus said:

yhwx said:

More in the Google manifesto saga:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo

Alphabet Inc.’s Google has fired an employee who wrote an internal memo blasting the web company’s diversity policies, creating a firestorm across Silicon Valley.

James Damore, the Google engineer who wrote the note, confirmed his dismissal in an email, saying that he had been fired for “perpetuating gender stereotypes.” A Google representative didn’t immediately return a request for comment.

Google’s Chief Executive Officer Sundar Pichai sent a note to employees on Monday that said portions of the employee’s memo “violate our Code of Conduct and cross the line by advancing harmful gender stereotypes in our workplace.” But he didn’t say if the company was taking action against the employee.

Looks like his criticisms of Google being an ideological echo chamber were, in fact, accurate.

Maybe at the higher, management levels, yes, but at lower levels, I’m sure there’s many like him.

Also, you can sometimes get to a point wheee calling something an echo chamber is ridiculous. For example, if I made a forum where I banned all people who said they were proud eaters of babies, would you call it an ideological echo chamber just because I banned all the baby eaters?

If there were in fact baby eaters who were banned, then yes it is an echo chamber on that issue.

Some voices are ok not to allow.

Why not?

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#1095829
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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yhwx said:

NeverarGreat said:

yhwx said:

Jeebus said:

yhwx said:

More in the Google manifesto saga:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo

Alphabet Inc.’s Google has fired an employee who wrote an internal memo blasting the web company’s diversity policies, creating a firestorm across Silicon Valley.

James Damore, the Google engineer who wrote the note, confirmed his dismissal in an email, saying that he had been fired for “perpetuating gender stereotypes.” A Google representative didn’t immediately return a request for comment.

Google’s Chief Executive Officer Sundar Pichai sent a note to employees on Monday that said portions of the employee’s memo “violate our Code of Conduct and cross the line by advancing harmful gender stereotypes in our workplace.” But he didn’t say if the company was taking action against the employee.

Looks like his criticisms of Google being an ideological echo chamber were, in fact, accurate.

Maybe at the higher, management levels, yes, but at lower levels, I’m sure there’s many like him.

Also, you can sometimes get to a point wheee calling something an echo chamber is ridiculous. For example, if I made a forum where I banned all people who said they were proud eaters of babies, would you call it an ideological echo chamber just because I banned all the baby eaters?

If there were in fact baby eaters who were banned, then yes it is an echo chamber on that issue.

Ok, sure, it technically is an echo chamber on that issue. But I don’t want baby eaters on my forum. Some voices are ok not to allow.

Goodbye, First Amendment, it was fun while it lasted.