JediSage

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Post: #199644
Topic: Violence VS. Non-Violence ~~~ Debate
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/199644/action/topic#199644
Time: 10-Apr-2006 7:39 PM

Originally posted by: Billy Mahoney
Never look upon Ghandi as a defender of individualism.

Or of individual lives. He was willing to send the lambs en masse to the slaughter for his beliefs, in and of itself an act of violence.

Post: #199614
Topic: Comics Fans
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/199614/action/topic#199614
Time: 10-Apr-2006 5:22 PM

Does anyone know what E2 Superman is talking about when Bruce asks him what Nightwing is like on his world in IC 4? Bruce asks if he's a better man (why, I don't know) and Supes looks away and says "No".

Post: #199604
Topic: Violence VS. Non-Violence ~~~ Debate
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/199604/action/topic#199604
Time: 10-Apr-2006 4:38 PM

Everyone has the capacity to commit violence under the right circumstances. Anyone who says they won't kill in order to immediately save their own lives is sorely fooling themselves. Survival always has been and always will be the first instinct.

I do believe we should work for peace and to "change the way people think", I also believe that in the lack of an immediate, universal solution people should be able to protect themselves from those who do not subscribe to the peace in our time philosophy. In the end, Ghandi's non-violence made him a martyr. His death did not bring about change, and there's been more violence in the world since then, with no end in site. He would would have lived a lot longer if he'd had an armed bodyguard.

Here's an excerpt from a Wikipedia article regarding Ghandi's application of non-violence during WWII: Article

"Sometimes his prescription of extreme non-violence was severely at odds with the prevailing view of a situation. In 1940, he wrote an open letter to the British people in which he offered them the following plan of action for the second world war:

"I want you to lay down the arms you have as being useless for saving you or humanity. You will invite Herr Hitler and Signor Mussolini to take what they want of the countries you call your possessions. Let them take possession of your beautiful island with your many beautiful buildings... If these gentlemen choose to occupy your homes, you will vacate them. If they do not give you free passage out, you will allow yourself, man, woman and child to be slaughtered... I am telling His Excellency the Viceroy that my services are at the disposal of His Majesty's government, should they consider them of any practical use in enhancing my appeal." (From Stanley Wolpert's "Jinnah of Pakistan.")"

So in other words, in order for non-violence to be satisfied we must all submit to horrible violence...is there not a contradiction here??

Post: #199590
Topic: Comics Fans
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/199590/action/topic#199590
Time: 10-Apr-2006 3:37 PM

Originally posted by: theredbaron

Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Pre Crisis Huntress was Helena Wayne, son of Earth-2 Batman and Catwoman. After the Crisis, since Batman was no longer an eligible bachelor, Huntress was retconned to Helena Bertinelli, the daughter of a crime family whose parents were murdered in front of her by a rival family. WHen she grew up she became basically a more violent female version of Batman.

But in "Infinite Crisis" Alex Luthor said that Helena Bertinelli would have eventually come from Earth-8 anyway, and One Year Later, Selina Kyle gives birth to a girl named Helena, who may be the New Earth incarnation of Earth-2's Huntress

Well, that's complicated now, isn't it? Thanks for the explanation.

Has anyone wondered whether or not IC is opening up a can of worms that COIE went out of its way to correct? I can't think of anything specific, but it has been on my mind and Chalt's example is kind of what I'm talking about...

Post: #199516
Topic: Comics Fans
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/199516/action/topic#199516
Time: 10-Apr-2006 10:09 AM

Originally posted by: theredbaron

Originally posted by: JediSage

Originally posted by: theredbaron
Read a lot of comics yesterday, by the way.

Superman All-Stars #1 & 2, The Dark Knight Returns, Hush: Vol. 1, and Batman: Gothic to be exact.

Dark Knight Returns was "Holy Crap!" kind of excitement for me. I got so excited and jittery in front of all of my friends that it was embarrassing. A very fanboy moment. I just couldn't believe what was happening...

Hush was a little strange, but very brave nonetheless. Can somebody explain the Oracle to me? Is it a computer in Batman's suit? I loved how Loeb took a lame villain like Killer Croc, and made him cool.

Gothic was very, very dark, and I loved it.

The Superman All-Stars series is very fun and very adventurous. I hope it continues to be this good.

Oracle is Barbara Gordon on a communicator. She was shot and crippled by Joker (during the No Man's Land arc, I think), so now she fights crime by being Batman's eyes and ears in the computer world and assists in coordinating people for backup, etc. She's also in charge of the Birds of Prey group.

Glad you enjoyed DKR. It's absolutely my fav of all time, and is responsible for getting me into comics in the first place. I've always felt that Miller just knew how Bats spoke and would act, and his interpretation has always been definitive for me.

Gothic...meh. Dark, brutal, etc. Slightly above average, IMO.

Barbara gets shot and hospitalised (and photographed!) in The Killing Joke as well, but that story seems to be pre-Batgirl. Her being Oracle makes a lot of sense. And this Huntress character, is she part of the Birds of Prey? Hush brought in a lot of characters I've never seen in a Batman story before...

I feel the same way about Miller. It's a shame about Strikes Again, though.

I loved Gothic, all the supernatural themes and history running through it. I think Batman is right at home with this kind of stuff.

Well, I've always thought Huntress was just kind of another person in the DCU, but I later heard in the Birds of Prey tv show she was the daughter of Batman and Selina Kyle.

Post: #199131
Topic: Comics Fans
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/199131/action/topic#199131
Time: 9-Apr-2006 2:03 AM

Post: #199020
Topic: Comics Fans
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/199020/action/topic#199020
Time: 8-Apr-2006 4:41 PM

Legends of the Dark Knight: Does this still take place outside of normal continuity?

Post: #198784
Topic: Comics Fans
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198784/action/topic#198784
Time: 7-Apr-2006 11:22 AM

Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Awesome image. And amen to a 'done right' Flash movie. As for Crisis on Infinite Earths, it is an excellent read and has some excellent artwork. Plus it is pretty much essential to understand the past 21 years of DC comics, espeically the Infinite Crisis.

On another note:

SPOILERS

CONNER!! NOOOO!!!!

I guess it wouldn't be a Crisis without a Superchild dying... but still! *sniff*

END SPOILERS

So, what are your thoughts on Infiinted Crisis as of the penultimate issue?

I thought 6 was pretty darn good, and I'll be glad to see Superboy Prime finally get a beat down now that the E2 and E1 Superman are both back, as well as Powergirl and Wonderwoman it should be a mop up. Again the art was great and you can really see Perez's influence. Too bad they didn't give Wolfman more to do than Secret Files, but oh well.

Have you noticed Bats "softening" a little in the 1 Year Later titles? He actually compliments Tim about his progress. Was surprised.

Future Flash possibility, Possible Spoiler:

What do you think of Boomerang's kid (who was shown as having super-speed in Identity Crisis) taking on the mantle?

Post: #198782
Topic: Comics Fans
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198782/action/topic#198782
Time: 7-Apr-2006 11:19 AM

Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father

Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
For my money, those posters are way cooler than any of todays posters. Todays posters are just so... photoshopped. They don't project anything remotely epic or awe inspiring.

My thoughts EXACTLY - A bunch of heads photoshopped together. Posters of the 70s and 80s were so much better.

Why is Flash so muscly in that photo? Does the power of super-speed have some effect on his physique? I'm not criticising, just asking - I never read flash, but I am familiar with the origin story and I thought he was just a normal guy who got splashed by some chemicals and became super-fast.

Well, they've never really explained the physique, that's for sure. I know that in the first 10 or 15 issues of the this past Flash run (around 1988 or so) they were careful to explain that his strength was based on the "speed, properly focused, becomes power" concept. An average guy has pretty good strength in his 20's and 30's, and if he can hit you 50 times in a second, then it's all over...

I thought that run was one of the best in comics during that time period. The first 30 issues of that book were fantastic.

Post: #198773
Topic: Violence VS. Non-Violence ~~~ Debate
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198773/action/topic#198773
Time: 7-Apr-2006 10:28 AM

Originally posted by: ricarleite
Have you guys ever realized that all justification for violence is to stop violence? When you figure out how to do this across the globe simultaneously, then I'll buy into that line of thinking.

First, the people who tend to focus on violence to end violence, is the kind of person who would commit an act of violence in the first place.

A generalization and stereotype.

Second, violence generates a whole bunch of money to some people who are living in secure, protected and rich homes away from the misery and poverty of the whole world.

Another stereotype based on indoctrinated thinking rather than facts. I live in quite, safe, middle-class neighborhood. If someone breaks into my neighbor's house and they respond with violence I don't make a dime...And so we're back to the original point. If someone breaks into my home, I should sit down and sing folk songs with the person and discuss how it's not REALLY their fault that they broke in. It's their poor socio-economic circumstances that forced them to pick up a knife and a crow-bar and made them break in during the middle of the night and try to kill me. Water under the bridge!

Back to my signature from last week... If poverty and social injustice are the only factors in crime why do rich people still go to jail?? Martha Stewart, Leona Helmsley, the Enron group, the governor of my home state, the list goes on....

Post: #198769
Topic: Violence VS. Non-Violence ~~~ Debate
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198769/action/topic#198769
Time: 7-Apr-2006 10:19 AM

Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father

Originally posted by: JediSage

Originally posted by: Jagdlieter

Originally posted by: ricarleite
"An eye for an eye will make everyone blind"

NOTHING justifies violence. Nothing.

There's the ticket, we agree on that one Ric. Good quote btw, who is it again?

It's also one of the most naive philosophies on the planet...I can imagine one of the Iraqi Khurds going up to Saddam and saying "You know, an eye for an eye only makes the whole world......ARRRRRGHGGHGHH!" immediately before being shot, followed by nerve gas being released in their village. Please, oh please.

Sage is right - it's a very naive and unrealistic attitude. But how sad that that is the case. Like I said - human nature sucks.

I totally hate that it's true. I want to clarify that. I want my kids to grow up in a world that's better than the one we have. Sadly, I have to be realistic and teach them to be strong, because it's fantasy to believe it's any other way...

Post: #198737
Topic: Violence VS. Non-Violence ~~~ Debate
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198737/action/topic#198737
Time: 7-Apr-2006 7:05 AM

Originally posted by: Jagdlieter

Originally posted by: ricarleite
"An eye for an eye will make everyone blind"

NOTHING justifies violence. Nothing.

There's the ticket, we agree on that one Ric. Good quote btw, who is it again?

Post: #198578
Topic: Favorite Game Shows?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198578/action/topic#198578
Time: 6-Apr-2006 8:31 PM

Win Ben Stein's Money & Remote Control (early days of MTV).

Post: #198577
Topic: Violence VS. Non-Violence ~~~ Debate
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198577/action/topic#198577
Time: 6-Apr-2006 8:30 PM

Originally posted by: Devilman-1369
evil is just a matter of opinion (as is 'good'), so a world with NO evil is just as impossible as a world with NO good.

it's all a matter of opinion

besides, 'good' & 'evil' have nothing to do with 'violence' or 'non-violence'

the 'evil' ones aren't always the ones to instigate violence...think of the Crusades, The Salem Witch Hunt, WWII (hey, the nazis thought they were the good guys...and if they had won that war, history would remember them as heros)

So, is it your assertion that the holocaust can't be judged to be "evil" because one opinion is as valid as the other? Is it a matter of opinion that the two kids who killed all those people at Columbine were'nt evil because evil is only an idea? Is it your assertion that slavery in the United States was neither good nor evil because those ideas don't exist? Using this logic I can walk into your house and steal your tv with impunity, because hey, good and evil are only opinions.

Relativism. What a way to be. It's proponents espouse it as the ultimate system of belief while condeming those who don't go along with it...more like the ultimate in hypocrisy. There are absolutely no absolutes...

Post: #198486
Topic: Favorite Game Shows?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198486/action/topic#198486
Time: 6-Apr-2006 1:17 PM

Scrabble, The Newlywed Game, Password, $10,000 Pryamid....ahhh yeah. Good times.

Post: #198468
Topic: Violence VS. Non-Violence ~~~ Debate
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198468/action/topic#198468
Time: 6-Apr-2006 12:35 PM

Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
As we look at history, the dropping of the bomb on Hiroshima remains justified, as the massive death was still paltry compared to the amount of death that would have been caused by a protracted invasion of Japan. Sometimes violence is supported by bean counting. Doesn't mean we will rest easy with the thought, and it doesn't mean the afterlife will be any kinder to us for making those kinds of decisions, but this is perhaps the ultimate example that answers the question.

Wow ADM, you're scaring me lately!

We're in a golden age of agreement!

I had a neighbor quite a while ago who was among the "on the ground" troops who went to Nagasaki (I believe) shortly after the surrender. He had terrible pain in his joints from the exposure and he saw it first hand.

I can't even imagine how terrible it was, but I too believe it was necessary to bring about a faster end to the war, especially considering that the Japanese military was arming women and children for the invasion of the mainland.

Where I believe we may differ is that it is my opinion, that in order to preserve peace we must always be prepared for war. We must maintain the strongest military on the planet (they must train for war, not dig ditches in Lousiana), and sadly must keep terrible, terrible weapons at our disposal. But as the eagle emblem shows, we must have the arrow in one talon, and an olive branch in the other.

Post: #198456
Topic: Favorite Game Shows?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198456/action/topic#198456
Time: 6-Apr-2006 10:54 AM

Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
Deal or no deal has been going for about 6 months here in England, and it's pretty big. It has reveived the career of Noel Edmonds, who was a big TV star in the 80s but faded into obscurity/

I think the italian version has been goign for quite some time.

Yes, it has done the same for Howie Mandel, who was a big comedian here for a while in the 80's.

Post: #198455
Topic: FUEL TO THE MAC vs. PC FIRE
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198455/action/topic#198455
Time: 6-Apr-2006 10:53 AM

Originally posted by: sybeman
And Windows' track record is any better? I challenge you to keep any Windows 9X machine running for six weeks without a reboot. Six weeks of normal usage. It can't be done.

Well it is 8 years out of date!

Win9x's greatest downfall was a lack of protected memory. Once that was introduced in NT it was a whole new ballgame. As I've said b4, I'll put a WinXP Pro/2K Pro machine against any other well-used OS (MAC, Linux) anyday of the week. See my post under Sage's Latest Rant regarding my experiences with Linux to get my take on this.

You have to make a distinction between OS problems and hardware problems. Apple's history with quality control problems goes well beyond the iPod, from exploding laptop batteries to bad logic boards, the list goes on and on. And with Apple, I can't walk down the street to get it fixed. If I want it fixed, it's got to go to the Apple store, or to an authorized repair center (if you can find one). With pcs, parts are readily available at low prices, and the odds of finding someone in your general neighborhood that can fix a pc vs fixing a MAC must be significantly high.

Post: #198448
Topic: Favorite Game Shows?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198448/action/topic#198448
Time: 6-Apr-2006 10:45 AM

Originally posted by: theredbaron

Originally posted by: JediSage
Having grown up during the late 70's, early 80s I have an affinity for game shows (God knows there were enough on back then). What's your favorite? I always enjoyed Press Your Luck with the Whammy dude that they used to animate on the screen. Also LOVE The Price is Right and Jeopardy.

What're your favs? Also, thoughts on Deal or No Deal?

Deal or No Deal pisses me off for a number of reasons:

1) They always congratulate the contestant on a "good guess" - there are no good guesses - the only skill is knowing when to take the money and run!
2) The contestants never know when to take the money and run
3) The host always makes lame jokes and quips strange phrases
AND
4) "The bank" is as stingy as hell at the worst times.

Out of curiousity, how long has Deal or No Deal been going on in other parts of the world? I think this is the third year of it here in Australia...

Are you talking about the American or Aussie version? I think Howie Mandel is ok, not terrible. And yes you are correct, the people on their are STUPID on when they take the $$ and don't. The other night there was a woman on there that kept saying "I don't know what to do, Howie Mandel. Tell me what to do Howie Mandel". Wanted to smack her.

Post: #198447
Topic: Comics Fans
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198447/action/topic#198447
Time: 6-Apr-2006 10:42 AM

Originally posted by: theredbaron

Originally posted by: JediSage

Originally posted by: Nanner Split
So, I just picked up Crisis on Infinite Earths today. Good choice?

COIE is very necessary to understanding the current Infinite Crisis run, and is a critical piece of DC history, but is a little dated by today's standards in terms of dialogue and....naivitae(sp?). I've always felt that the post-crisis DCU took a much more dark and adult turn, and it was for the better. Artwork in that story is fantastic...it's amazing how many panels Perez managed to cram onto some of those pages. It's worth a read on that merit alone. My take: A good read every 10 years or so...that's about it.

On that subject, how are you finding Infinity Crisis so far? I've been reading good reviews ("Must Have" reviews to be exact), but I haven't started reading it yet. I was thinking of waiting for it to come out in TPB.

Infinite Crisis so far has been excellent. It's definitely DC returning to it's roots and they're at the top of their game. What's happening now is that they're publishing "1 Year Later" titles, meaning all their titles are jumping ahead 1 year. Also, after IC is complete (next month) they begin "52" which is a one issue a week, 52 issue long series dealing with the events between the end of IC and 1 Year Later. It's going to be difficult to catch up right now, so you may want to get the TPBs when they hit. However, IMO it's a good idea to begin reading the 1 Year Laters of your favorite books and also at least start buying 52 when it comes out so you're not that far behind. I wish DC would print checklists, like Marvel does. Marvel already released a checklist for Civil War.

Actually, I got a letter published in DC's Ask the Editors this month regarding a chronology (on their site). They gave an answer that may help you in terms of reading order...

Post: #198444
Topic: Violence VS. Non-Violence ~~~ Debate
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198444/action/topic#198444
Time: 6-Apr-2006 10:34 AM

Originally posted by: Devilman-1369

Originally posted by: JediSage
Self defense is always justified, in terms of personally...If someone were to attack me they'd probably wind up dead.

self defense, or defense of others...if someone were to attack me, they'd more likely end up severely beaten, then dead...if they were to attack my girl, or my kids they would most definately end up dead.

I stand corrected...you are right. My life, and the life of my family/loved ones. Absolutely.

Post: #198442
Topic: Favorite Game Shows?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198442/action/topic#198442
Time: 6-Apr-2006 10:33 AM

Having grown up during the late 70's, early 80s I have an affinity for game shows (God knows there were enough on back then). What's your favorite? I always enjoyed Press Your Luck with the Whammy dude that they used to animate on the screen. Also LOVE The Price is Right and Jeopardy.

What're your favs? Also, thoughts on Deal or No Deal?

Post: #198437
Topic: Violence VS. Non-Violence ~~~ Debate
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198437/action/topic#198437
Time: 6-Apr-2006 10:26 AM

Self defense is always justified, in terms of personally...If someone were to attack me they'd probably wind up dead.

Post: #198314
Topic: Comics Fans
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198314/action/topic#198314
Time: 6-Apr-2006 1:37 AM

Originally posted by: Nanner Split
So, I just picked up Crisis on Infinite Earths today. Good choice?

Post: #198178
Topic: Comics Fans
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198178/action/topic#198178
Time: 5-Apr-2006 5:00 PM

Baron:

That is weird about Halloween. I too thought the beginning was quite slow, but then it begins to really pick up.

I'll have to pick up the All Seasons one (tack it onto my mile-long list). I have to admit that Dark Knight Returns actually put me off of Superman as a kid. I couldn't stand him for taking sides against Bruce.