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#220567
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Peter Jackson the new Luca$???
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New Line Home Entertainment is revisiting Middle Earth with new DVD releases of Peter Jackson’s “The Lord of the Rings” trilogy.

The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers and The Return of the King will each be presented in two-disc “Limited Edition” sets with an exclusive behind-the scenes documentary. The DVDs street Aug. 29 (prebook July 25) at $28.98 each.

For each film, disc one presents both the theatrical version of the film and its extended edition through seamless branching, while disc two features an intimate, never-before-seen documentary created by Costa Botes. The feature-length documentaries, with more than 300 minutes of never-before-available footage, focus on a number of complexities and circumstances and affected the making of the movies.

The films won a total of 17 Academy Awards, including Return of the King’s 2003 Best Picture win.


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#217938
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Moving in from the Basher's Sanctuary (TF.n)
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
LOL....I doubt his godliness will show up around here...no banstick to back himself up.


That dude has banned me more times than I care to count. Easily over a year worth of bans.... I'm somewhere in the middle of a 9 monther right now.

TFN used to be a really fun board to go on.... it still is, but it depends on who is the Mod on whatever board you're posting in.

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#211192
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New DVDs NOT 16x9
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Originally posted by: Krycek87
Yeah, is this guy from the official fan club or something? I say this because I visited the official forums and there is so much hate for the OOT! Does everyone there go down on Lucas? I guess the the money shot is the SE trilogy that some people prefer. To me the OOT is all that Star Wars ever was, the prequels are just expensive tv-made movies, made by Lucasfilm and Fox. I'm pretty sure JediRandy would love to go down on that fat fuck. I am 19, I grew with the SE, but they were shit, as are the coming dvds. Thats my rant.


I'm pretty sure that was the dumbest fanboy rant in a while. You're representing the OOT fans so well.

Good job!
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#211127
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New DVDs NOT 16x9
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Originally posted by: 20th Century Mark
Bye Randy. Guess you have nothing more to say.

Not to fanboy's who bitch and moan endlessly for years. You guys hear what you want to hear. You twist things to fit your bitching and moaning ways. You call me a sheep while you all sit and complain about the same shit for years.

Have fun with YOUR movie. Which apparently costs a movie ticket, some popcorn and a piece of plastic in the shape of Luke Skywalker.


Originally posted by: sybeman
And with that, we see yet another shit-disturber come and go. JediRandy, I'm not going to miss you.


Oh, I'll probably be back. You'll miss me if I'm gone too long. Plus you guys'll get bored complaining about a new Wampa scene.





Oh wait. If you're not bored of talking about it by now you never will be.
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#211111
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New DVDs NOT 16x9
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Originally posted by: 20th Century Mark
I don't know how to make it more clear to you. Does the term released to the public mean anything to you? What about the VHS and Laserdisc copies I own? Are you saying they are not mine? Did Lucas see no money of that? And what you said about who made the films.
screenplay, the SFX, the editing, the lighting Did George do all that himself? I don't think so.

When I buy a ticket to look at a painting in a museum, who gets the money? Think about it.

And if you think that Star Wars would be alive today without the fans, you are leaving in a fucking dream world. Lets face it, if Lucas quite Star Wars, we would have nothing. He holding on to it like grim death. He can't let it go. Because he has his own enemy. It is now all about money. And that is the wrong reasons.

And then you drop this one: "An artists work is NEVER complete." I guess you believe that unless it's the SE, right? Star Wars is the one piece of art that phrase doesn't apply to?


What the hell are you talking about? Who said the SE's are complete. George did. Then he keeps changing them.


The movie would still exist. Somewhere, the reel would exist. You don't have to make money to be a filmmaker. You have to make movies.

You bought a ticket. You gave money to look at someone else's artwork.

You want to own a movie. Go make one. Instead of bitching about someone else's for years.




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#211104
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New DVDs NOT 16x9
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Originally posted by: 20th Century Mark




You have NO IDEA what a true artist is. That much is obvious. When the movies were release to the public, they became partly ours. We bought them, we paid for them. We made Lucas what he is today. Without the fans, and I am talking about life-long 30 year fans, he would be nothing. It is all about respect. For culture, history, the fans and the industry.

An artists work is NEVER complete. If a painter sold a painting, then 20 years later decided he wanted to 'fix it', can he go to the house or gallery and do what he wants to it? All we are asking for is a nice high quality version of the 3 original films. Is that too much to ask for? Considering we have paid for them again and again.



You're so far off it's amazing.

They do not become partially yours. You're buying a ticket to look at someone else's work. When you go to the Louvre to look at the Mona Lisa, is it yours?

No? Why not? You bought a ticket and a mug with the Mona Lisa on it? I guess according to you, you're now the proud owner of the most famous painting in history. And so cheap. How frugal of you.

Where do people get this from? Honestly.

Without the fans, there would still be Star Wars. What did fans do to get the movie made? Did help the movie get made? Did you help with the screenplay, the SFX, the editing, the lighting? Nope. You did nothing. You bought a ticket and watched it. That's it.

And then you drop this one: "An artists work is NEVER complete." I guess you believe that unless it's the SE, right? Star Wars is the one piece of art that phrase doesn't apply to?

And if a painter sold a painting it's not longer the artist's work. He sold it. It's gone. The painter hung it in a gallery with the intention of selling to someone. Once you show your work at a gallery, you're agreeing to part ways with it. You're willing to let the work become someone else's. If the artist hangs it in a museum he's not agreeing to sell it. He's letting people look at it for money. Hmmmm. Kinda sounds like a movie theater.

A movie theater isn't a gallery. GL didn't sell you Star Wars. A movie ticket and some action figures doesn't grant you ownership. That goes for paying again and again and again. Stop buying if you get so pissed. And when you stop buying its still his movie.

This logic that SW is somehow partially yours is bogus and dead wrong. But people don't seem to understand that.

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#211081
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Originally posted by: 20th Century Mark
See I don't mind argue with someone from the other side, and I have no problem with diverse opinions coming in here, but if you're gonna post stuff like this, why even bother?


cause he's a fuckin' idiot.


Wow. Curse words and everything.

Here's the thing.

The SE are the movies. Period. End of story. You want a Star Wars DVD with all the bells and whistles? They've been out for months. The OOT is the equivalent of a DVD extra. No different than deleted scenes. The OOT is now a earlier draft of Star Wars.

My side of this, and I know its a useless argument, especially in here. Is that these aren't your movies. GL, no matter how much you hate him... made these flicks, he busted his ass to get them made, he had the foresight to make sure he had total ownership of them. All because he believe that a movie is a piece of art, something that the artist can do to whatever he/she wants to. Up to and including adding a new Ewok song.

Maybe if people would take one tiny little second to respect the guy's art. You'd be able to enjoy these movies again. CGI Jabba the Hutt and all. Until thats possible, it'll be thread after thread about widescreen transfers, Greedo shooting first, crappy DVD cover designs and whatever else is the latest "Lucas kicked by puppy" complaint of the day is.



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#210533
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What are you going to do with your SE discs?
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Originally posted by: CO
Originally posted by: JediRandy

I totally understand that some folks didn't like the changes, so to get in an arguement about the merits (or lack thereof) would just be a waste of time..... I'm hopelessly outgunned here.

But, I do not think that the SE somehow made the films these unwatchable piles of garbage. Especially ESB.... which is pretty much the same movie..... it's still SW.



It is not about who is right and whose wrong about what changes are better. Lucas made a decision years ago to suppress the O-OT, and never gave the fans the choice to pick which one they wanted, that has been my only beef through the years. Once Lucas releases this on Sept. 12th, I could care less what changes he makes for the next edition, because there now is a choice.

Is ESB that much different, I agree on that, but ANH is alot different, and so are parts of ROTJ. The insertion of Hayden in ROTJ and the insertion of Ian McDiarmid in ESB changed the SE from updated effects to tie in with the PT. And everyone knows there were more changes to come in the OT in the future. I guarantee there will be the Emperor inserted dissolving the senate in ANH SE 2007.

Now for fans of the PT who see it 1-6, that is great for them, but it is a different experience then just watching it 4-6 from 77-83. It is just like watching a movie colorized, it is a different experience even though it is the same movie. Ted Turner tried to colorize many movies in the mid 80's to appease my generation who were teenagers, and it backfired on him, and he stopped doing it.

To me it is all about choice, and after September 12th, the choice will be there on the best format of how to watch SW OT. If the so-called whiners didn't whine for the last few years, then fans would only get to see the SE, and to me that is not a choice.


Hey, I'll pick up the new discs.... I heard there'll be commentary on them, so if that happens, I'll pick them up. If not. I'll wait until the big 6 movie set.

I don't know if inserting the McDiarmid into ESB is an attempt to connect to the PT. He was in ROTJ. Plus, the OOT ESB Emperor looks silly considering he changes in the next movie. I think there's a monkey superimposed over an actor for that version of the Emperor. The eyes are just flat out weird. Unless he had a hangover, I don't know why they would suddenly shrink in ROTJ.

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#210499
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What are you going to do with your SE discs?
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Originally posted by: CO
Originally posted by: JediRandy

As for you "destroying" something that you helped "build"..... hate to break it to ya but you merely supported it. The movie was made without you and it'll be around long after you. Buying a DVD and a few toys doesn't get your name in the credits.



See that is where I disagree with you, if there wasn't an outrcy from fans, these versions wouldn't be around long after us. In 10 years, there will be a whole generation that grow up with just DVD players, as most are doing now, and are not going to just go out and buy some VHS version of the O-OT.

With the DVD version out, it keeps this version in play for future generations to decide what is better. I have three nephews between the ages of 5-8, and they have only seen the SE OT, cause they don't watch VHS tapes, they have grown up with Toy Story & Monster Inc. SE DVD's. They have no idea about the original versions.

But I will be buying it for them on Sept. 12 as an early Christmas Present from their Uncle, so now they can see the versions I grew up on, and then they can decide. Of course, I will be the great uncle that I am, and help them out with their decision.



I totally understand that some folks didn't like the changes, so to get in an arguement about the merits (or lack thereof) would just be a waste of time..... I'm hopelessly outgunned here.

But, I do not think that the SE somehow made the films these unwatchable piles of garbage. Especially ESB.... which is pretty much the same movie..... it's still SW.


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#210488
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What are you going to do with your SE discs?
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Originally posted by: juicerino
Less-than-fortunate kids are able to enjoy a movie without whining and moaning about it on the internet for years.

haha. o rly? that was a joke dude. charity is fine, but telling someone else what to do with their own possessions is not. if i wanna burn a DVD i just bought, i can do so. more over, if i want to destroy something that i helped to build and promote that has now gone terribly wrong, i can do so.


I didn't "tell" anyone..... I suggested an alternative to a useless and infantile form of protest... especially considering you've just won the long fight to get these discs.

As for you "destroying" something that you helped "build"..... hate to break it to ya but you merely supported it. The movie was made without you and it'll be around long after you. Buying a DVD and a few toys doesn't get your name in the credits.
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#210149
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What are you going to do with your SE discs?
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Originally posted by: jack Spencer Jr
Originally posted by: JediRandy
The SE additions really make that big a difference?


Yes. They do. They are the equilient of Christ being married to Mary Magdeline and fathering a child with her. And kids will enjoy the hell out of lots of things. I remember enjoying the hell out of playing outside with a stick. Let's forget about the children because that does not matter. What does matter is that I would not subject my worst enemy to the SE. I wish that would go into the Lucasfilm vault and never come out again.


Wow. Just wow. You're clearly off the deep end when it comes to the SE...

"you can go about your business..."

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#210144
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What are you going to do with your SE discs?
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Originally posted by: jack Spencer Jr
Still doesn change that as much as lucas didn't want the OOT available, many here feel the same about the SE's. It's like Max Planck said: “A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it” I do not want a new generation growing up that is only familiar with the SE.


The SE additions really make that big a difference? I understand if they do to you.... but a kid is still going to enjoy the hell out of those flicks. Only the Star Wars fanboy generation cares that much.