JediRandy

Originally posted by: SW
I was wondring would star wars be better if it was made by a different director ?? Hes done a great
job doing all six . They can be better done by Steven Speilberg or Ridley Scott thats what i think . George Lucas is good but not the best at least there wont be any changes if made by a different director !!!!

Originally posted by: Marvolo
JediRandy do you enjoy being a jackass? Just wondering.

Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
Thank God. What a c*nt.

Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
"you guys just can't seem to leave me alone."

Sorry...didn't realize you wanted this to be a private thread for your own ranting. How about making your own forums elsewhere, so you aren't so bothered by opposing viewpoints? Just a suggestion.

Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
"Ridiculous. The OT DVD set is a fine set. It looks and sound great. It sucks in your opinion because it's not the OOT."

And for some reason, we're supposed to believe that the opinion of an acknowledged troll about the DVDs isn't equally ridiculous or unbiased?

"News"

Oh, so now the research finally comes. Interesting change in tactics. One whole awards show. Big whoop.

Don't confuse the selling power of the Star Wars brand with its quality, much less a trade association award. Many, many DVD websites talked about the colors and audio of the films. The detail is great, but there are still many, many problems with them, so much so that LFL has to make excuses about them.

"Adjust the Tint on your TV and get over it. "

Oh, so now you are making excuses for them too. Spin?

Originally posted by: ChainsawAsh
It most certainly does NOT look OR sound great! Colors are oversaturated one shot, undersaturated the next, the audio mix is screwed up for ANH - or are you in LFL's "deliberate creative decision" camp?

Originally posted by: Scruffy
There's another difference ... the LotR releases have been gold from day one. There are essentially no problems with them. These rereleases are really just repackaging. If you want the new documentary, or a Gollum statue or whatever, you buy the rerelease. If all you want is the movie, you can be satisfied with the initial release. And I am very satisfied with the initial theatrical and EE releases. As far as I am concerned, Mr. Jackson can release his trilogy anew every week for the next year; he's provided me with a quality product, and that's what matters.

The Star Wars Trilogy, on the other hand, was junk from day one. Bad color, bad sound, bad content. And none of the releases to date have fixed any of that. If all you want is a good presentation of the movie, well, you're not getting it. Not in the Vaderface boxset, not in the poster art boxset, and not in the photoshop edition.

That's the difference. It's not about how many times something is released. It's about consistent quality vs. consistent ... not quality.

Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
"I do think it's silly to keep complaining that the OOT you fought so hard for isn't up to your technical standards... "beggers can't be choosers""

How silly is it to keep bringing up this tired argument? I'll even quote you: "but, for the one billionth time." And your .sig, over and over: "Its not your movie, never was, never will be."

Get a new argument, or get a life. Simple as that. If you had read my previous post, this would fall under the "substance" statement. Your feeble attempts are old and tired, and certainly not "fun".

"and I've been banned for a year at TFN.... your buddy Strillo saw to that."

Again, if you knew me, you'd know I've never liked strilo. He's one of the first people I got into an argument with when I first joined TF.n many moons ago, and I constantly called on his behavior in the Basher's Sanctuary.

Having knowledge of the people you argue against just ain't your thing, is it?

Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
As soon as you stop trolling, and make a decent attempt to provide something rational and reasonable and maybe, just maybe, something of substance to these boards.

If that's too much to handle, then what's the point, really? How much longer are you going to continue embarrasing yourself on a board of people whom you obviously hold a great deal of contempt for?

Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
Well, Anakin thought his anger would make him powerful as well. If you were a fan of the films, you might have learned that, too.

And this is what you call "fun"? Again, sad, especially since that last comment proves you are simply trolling - again .

Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
See, more brainless retorts. You have so much hatred for the people on these boards, that you lump us all together to make some ridiculious point. I've never said this - AT ALL. It would be nice if you could read, because then you could search through my posts to prove this.

It's sad, really, but if you think your tired attempts will make any kind of a difference on this board......well......

Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
Intelligence over ignorance, I always say.

Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
"One trilogy is over 20 years old.... one isn't. Check back in a couple decades and see how many LOTR releases there are. "

I addressed this. Obviously, reading isn't your thing, otherwise there would be better research in your inital argument, much less this brainless retort.

"the OT, looks great.... it's just not the OOT. Which is gone. Sorry if it's bonus material... but, for the one billionth time. It's not your flick, so this is what you get."

This not only proves you are trolling, but because you have nothing else of value to counter with, you've just negated your whole argument and supported mine. Such is not an unexpected response to overwhelming evidence.

"Keep on spinnin', folks."

Says the guy who keeps missing the obvious in his desperate attempts to point out the "obvious". LOL!

Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
"In the end, atleast LOTR fans can any version in great quality on DVD, O-OT fans have to watch them as bonus material."

That's pretty much it in a nutshell.

"When Lucas does this it's a slap in the fan's face... when Jackson does it..... it's spin time."

You know, I'm not a huge Jackson fan, nor a huge LOTR fan, but even I can see the difference between these two scenarios. Obviously, you have bigger issues to deal with, and this is the best you can do, but they just aren't the same. Sorry.

"if GL was about to release Star Wars for the 3rd time, people would be pissed, IMO."

Because this isn't simply a rerelease. The details are right in front of you, both for the new LOTR as well as the multitude of SW releases listed at DavisDVD.com. Either you don't want to educate yourself on the difference, because you know full well that it hurts your argument, or you just want to troll - which is more likely, since this kind of thing has been discussed ad neauseum.

The biggest difference of all that you keep glossing over: every version of LOTR, be it theatrical or the director's "vision", is presented in the best possible form that DVD can provide. Lucas simply cannot make this claim.

If you want to bash PJ, why not head off to TF.n. They'd welcome you into their ranks with open arms. I can tell you now, you aren't going to recieve the kind of attention you so desperately crave on this site.

"DVD Sets for the Original Star Wars Trilogy...."


See, now I KNOW you are an ignorant moron relying on half an argument. Here's Lucas' VHS and LD line-up.





















That's an awful lot of releases for a half-finished film, wouldn't you say?

And then there are the Special Editions and DVD editions.








As you can see, PJ doesn't hold a candle to GL in terms of releasing the films, but GL doesn't hold a candle to PJ improving each subsequent rerelease. Since you obviously don't or refuse to get it, PJ consistently tries to up the ante in terms of quality and quantity in each release, giving all fans the most of what they want.

Lucas did this once on LD (The Definitive Collection), and barely on the 2004 DVDs - the rerelease of which did not include the measly bonus disc, yet didn't cost much less. Go figure . (I love how you've conveniently forgotten about that rerelease, BTW ) Let's also keep in mind that Lucas has only recently released the OT in any form on DVD. Considering his track record, what the fuck makes you think he won't repeat himself with multiple meaningless redudant or lackluster releases?

Lucas should take some notes on how PJ is releasing his films. GL just wants to give people what he wants them to see (The "Faces" set included, as a bonus, an interview of him. WooHoo! *snore*) He's stated over and over that the "original version" wouldn't be rereleased and/or didn't exist, and when he finally relents, it's of inferior quality.

Yeah, soooooooooooo many similarities. *roll eyes* If there's any "spin" going on, it's in your desparate need to pretend these scenarios share as much in common as you wish they did.

"And probably because Jackson hasn't repalced Frodo with a walking talking CGI banana in this release"

LOL!

Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
You f**cking bell-end!! He's not counting widescreen and fullscreen as seperate releases. He's counting seperate releases as seperate releases. We had the crappy 2004 SEs in '04, then the crappy SEs in a new box in 2005, now we are getting a release in '06 as well. Not to mention countless VHS and laserdisc releases. None of us give a shit about Lucas rereleasing the films over and over - we just want him to release the O-OT ONCE in good, anamorphic quality.

Now, TROLL, please, piss off. Maybe we are a bunch of sad geeks for being here talking/complaining about this stuff, but what you are doing is double-sad.

Originally posted by: Number20

These two sets have another difference besides widescreen/fullscreen...


This set has no bonus disc and was released in '05




This set has a bonus disc and was released in '04

Originally posted by: ChainsawAsh
Actually, Randy ...






3 for Star Wars, 3 for LOTR ... why is it bad? At least Jackson's giving people the choice of which version to watch. And no, I'm not counting the special "giftsets," etc that you did, but either way, Star Wars DEFINITELY hasnt had just one.

Originally posted by: DarthBoMan
I don't know where to begin... but why are you discussing this here, its called "General STAR WARS Discussion". If you don't like Peter Jackson, go bash him in the Off Topic section.

And this site doesn't say it's against different versions on dvd, does it? The main goal of this site as far as I know is to get the original Star Wars trilogy on DVD in a resonable quality.

Personaly, I will probalby buy the new LOTR discs if it still looks good on single DVD's.

Originally posted by: Darth Simon


how so? if you mean the box set after all three where done that doesn't really count (imho) because it was known from the beginning. and i believe i heard they had a get the box offer with the proofs of purchases of the three movies and shipping cost

-Darth Simon