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#448934
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I will refuse to buy STAR WARS on bluray!
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TheBoost said:

adywan said:

Jedi Temple34 said:

I've still got the laserdisc! Yes that ancient sad religion to some, but I pity those who are selling there laserdiscs thinking bluray us better. If it was better! I wouldn’t be fucking complaining would I!

 

Yes, you probably still would.

Oh BURN!

For that comment I’ll put you on carbon freezing ignore list and let you chill out for week. LOL

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#448931
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I will refuse to buy STAR WARS on bluray!
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skyjedi2005

Well I know there not entirely faithful to the theatrical releases and Paramount had the gore to tell me in an email.

There’s missing sound effect on Star Trek the motion picture where Sulu presses a button screen left, just after receiving new orders by captain Kirk to keep the Enterprise 500 meters above intruder, and just before McCoy exits the bridge in the turbo-lift.

Have a listen and if you happen to have the US regionA it might be intact on the Dolby film mix!

I noticed when the same versions where aired on Channel4 a few months back just weeks into the 70mm run in the USA, seems odd doesn’t it? LOL I noticed it had the same echo effect on Sooty voices intercom right channel, warning Kirk about the warp drive system. It should be dry sound with no echo reverb effect on stage right that filters onto the faked stereo surrounds SIGH!

The sound effect of Sulu pressing the button on helm control was there! So it lead me to believe, it might be as US copy, or other as it had PAL4% speed-up that is common in this country with TV broadcasts and video consumer products.

Another thing I noticed and its not easy to control unless you have some fancy audio gear to tame the audio frequency levels is, the ending of STAR TREK II the sweeping Horner score moving with the images of Genesis, is damn bright toppy on screen HF left!

I don’t recall remembering this when played at the Empire Leicester Square in 70mm 20 years ago, it had nice balance over the screen fronts and a very TIGHT BASS LOW END! VERY TIGHT! That may sound a bit lose in the home with smaller loudspeakers.

Even the narration at the end of the low end humming organ like sound, was pressing on my body from 20 meters away.

Now that is what I call a critically well balanced aligned JBL THX sound system!

If you have the free fancy Spectrumlab and use to monitor each of the 6 channels you’ll see which ones have the tight low bass it, might seem weak to some Transformers, nuts who like LFE.1 at mindless silly levels.

I welcome a bit of audio compression  and just turn up the level to safe 85db while giving tremendous weight to older Dolby soundtracks rather than this bright harsh like sound, I’m not that hard of hearing, I can hear some sound effects up to around 16KHz for my age, but it takes a high compliance compression driver with high sensitivity of +100db to handle the easy of the frequencies, rather than putting strain on smaller HF tweeters that have lower sensitivity.

I’m talking about Alien3 (1992) when Ripley does cat-scan the scanner has high pitch tone that should pinch your ears a little bit, not aggressively just so its noticeable! You may have to EQ because other tones that are lower than 10KHz going upwards will stand in its way, from common 2KHz upwards to 8KHz.

A little audio limiting on the HF to protect the driver from sudden peaks that can damage the voice coil helps.

So once again I listen! If its played at lower volume the sound will sound small and higher tone shave small wavelengths. Its easier on headphones but the challenge is airborne into the room.   

 

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#448926
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Superman The Movie Audio Problem
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adywan said:

The Superman the movie laserdisc i got with my player suffered with laserdisc rot & bad audio. Just because it doesn't state any rot on a database doesn't mean that this isn't happening. If FanFiltration has 4 that suffers with it and i have 1 then surely the evidence is there that it is an issue.

 

Well for less than £10.00 pounds its no real loss and if its reported to have some, then I'll make a note, of it on the LDDB (after I’ve realigned the laser mechanism) as its tricky bugger to align. Might but a third laserdisc player 1750 to use it to realign my other CLD-1750, CLD-2950 needs a bit more attention, in getting back up and running.

 

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#448914
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I will refuse to buy STAR WARS on bluray!
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Alexrd said:

Jedi Temple34 said:

 

I've still got the laserdisc! Yes that ancient sad religion to some, but I pity those who are selling there laserdiscs thinking bluray us better. If it was better! I wouldn’t be fucking complaining would I! 

Following your logic, if blu-ray was worse, nobody would be selling them instead of laserdiscs. Don't you think?

Well don’t follow to hard it might cause and overload. LOL

Well that’s there provocative. If they what to dump them on the one viewing listening chance that, they think the laserdisc is worthless fine, only mean I get to a chance of buying it cheap on fleabay. LOL

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#448911
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Who is Ignoring You, and Who are You Ignoring? (was: Who is Ignoring You? (was: Hello all, I'm back!))
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Leonardo said:

I'm putting JT34 on ignore. I've had quite enough of his garbage posts.

Cry-y-y ... ha ha ha ha ... baby, cry baby, cry baby,
Welcome back home.

I know she told you,
I know she told you that she loved you
Much more than I do,
But I know she left you,
And you swear that you just don't know why,
Well, you know that I'll always be round
If you ever want me
Come on and cry, cry baby, cry baby, cry baby, yeah,
Oh, like you always seem to do.

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#448909
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Superman The Movie Audio Problem
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FanFiltration said:

Jedi Temple34 said:

Superman the movie £5.99 on fleabay Wow just brought the laserdisc a few moments ago. I saw the price and it was too tempting to pass on.

PCM Dolby stereo 4.2.4 the cover looked in good nick as well. Gate-fold with easy to read text!

You're luck tonight love! I'd buy this one being sold in the US now! I just brought the one same one only the seller is in the UK so it should be flying to my letterbox within the next few days...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Superman-Movie-1978-12030-A-B-LASERDISC-/170518485475?pt=US_Laserdisc&hash=item27b3b199e3#ht_650wt_825

 

 

  

Take a good hard listen to that audio in headphones when you get that disk. I have 4 LD's of that film and they all have rot and bad audio issues. I hope you got a good one. A lot of my Warner Bros. LDs seem to have that issue.

 

Laserdic database has none reported and its updated on issues.

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/02701/12030-A/B/Superman:-The-Movie-(1978)

I’ve got fair few Warner laserdiscs haven’t had issues in the past expect for one. The Fugitive (1993) that had minor laser-rot on the CAV side. 

As for listen I listen HARD! Listening is my pet love!

I’ve looked right though laserdisc database on all Superman the movie titles from US letterbox P&S to Japanese, (none reported) you sure it isn’t a DVD with laser-rot? I’ve heard some ramous but I’ve never seen one DVD YET with laser-rot.

I know what laser-rot looks like its tiny sparkles of red like colour dancing around on the image. I  had a brand new Dante’s Peak (1997) THX laserdisc years ago, when it was released and I think it was SideA that had laserdisc-rot and sent it back, for replacement and informed THX about the issue so they can look into the matter as, its part of the quality control program.

I got a few nice gifts from THX for my efforts.   

 There quality control THX program is not the same today, as it was years ago, since they went private.

 

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#448850
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Superman The Movie Audio Problem
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I bet there might be slightly faded 70mm print lurking around out there somewhere! Warner Bros are full excuses today.

I’ve read that some rare 70mm prints have had loving tender care treatment in preserving the original channel layout onto dts70mm yes dts70mm! I found the article on West Side Story interesting read. http://www.in70mm.com/news/2010/wss/index.htm

So if they can do it with West Side Story (1961) that is an older film than Superman the movie (1978). 

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#448846
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Superman The Movie Audio Problem
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Superman the movie £5.99 on fleabay Wow just brought the laserdisc a few moments ago. I saw the price and it was too tempting to pass on.

PCM Dolby stereo 4.2.4 the cover looked in good nick as well. Gate-fold with easy to read text!

You're luck tonight love! I'd buy this one being sold in the US now! I just brought the one same one only the seller is in the UK so it should be flying to my letterbox within the next few days...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Superman-Movie-1978-12030-A-B-LASERDISC-/170518485475?pt=US_Laserdisc&hash=item27b3b199e3#ht_650wt_825

 

 

  

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#448842
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Superman The Movie Audio Problem
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There are countless sound continuity issues with missing Foley sound effects and worse the same new sound effects placed on the so called original theatrical (1978) Warner has shown no real pride in overseeing the films soundtrack that was demo like release with its stereo surround (SS) for Dolby 70mm mag.

So I think its near to impossible to get the original Dolby release on DVD or bluray LOL, you might try looking for a laserdisc player on fleabay and then  look for the laserdisc, okay so what if its Dolby 4.2.4 matrix, its better than getting milked at every corner with Warner Bros.

Well compare the laserdisc most of the Foley effects are intact!

When Perry White tugs on newspaper of the Daily Planet the sound is, not on the English track language! However it is on the French language track? Plus there many other Foley effect missing from the English language Dolby 5.1 mix.

I noticed all this within seconds years ago when it was released on DVD. Then I started to listen to the other language tracks and was mildly shocked at how this, could happen? Careless is what it comes down to.

There are dozen rotten DVD bluray that I can list to avoid at all costs! Seriously buy a laserdisc player! I’d sooner change sides with side breaks than put up with half lousy cheap bluray’s that belong in the rubbish bin!

Escape from New York (1981) has missing Foley effects as well as a right dialogue pan. Listen to the audio commentary track and you’ll hear the crew members listening to different version to the one you’re watching! 

 

 

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#448832
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This Thread Is Currently About...Bingo and/or Wings!!!
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STAR TREK II is probably without doubt the one of the best STAR TREK feature films that has wide appeal audience, not just for Trekkers but also the curious sci-fi buff.

And why start a thread about Halloween early in the year about cats??? Yeah so what if Halloween is around week after next. I always make cat carving, Jack O' lantern. I'm getting better at it each year so, so. LOL

Then again STAR TREK Generations brilliant sound listening fun it was at the cinema.   

 

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#448822
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$42, 000 poster
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LAMO that poster will never sale unless the buyer is total STAR WARS nerd. I can buy re-print issues for under £10.00 pounds what a joke! Plus the fact its all creased up and not rolled up! So why would someone pay $42grand for some paper! You could use it as expensive rough toilet paper! 

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#448818
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I will refuse to buy STAR WARS on bluray!
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TheBoost said:

adywan said:

But the good thing is that you can now finally see just who this douche is as he has posted videos of himself listening to DVD audio tracks

http://www.youtube.com/user/EmpireLS56KW#p/u/15/zcvdZkqoxts

And , as he is ignoring most of us, he will never know he's been discovered. lol

 

Dude sure owns a lot of speakers.

Perhaps it's funny that in a video all about sound quality, I don't understand a a damn thing he says.

But he does have a self describer "golden ear" so it's hard to argue with him

 

Golden Ear http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audiophile is an old audiophile myth that goes, back many decades…long before I was even into all, this Hi-Fi. You might say I do have a golden ear that pays attention to listening not one that can only hears, it but one, that listens!

I think for me it goes back to early 1975 when I saw Earthquake in Sensurround, ABC screen1 Bournemouth, at least three times and ticket prices back then for Big Cinematic Sound only cost 79pence! Today the same cinema doesn’t have the balls to play Dolby or dts at the high impact levels that the sub bass CV folded horns did in the early 70’s.

The most SPL db I’ve seen is 105dbc it lacks on 70mm prints same film that I’ve seen at the CIC Empire Leicester Square, via the original JBL THX spec at a bare minimal 13KW. Today it’s up to 56KW with custom JBL.

The reason for the many surrounds is to get simple low cost uniform coverage (around the soon) 6 cinema seats that I’ll be installing. The LCR fronts have there own amplifier for LF and HF that’s controlled though a Behringer DCX2496 (electronic frequency dividing management crossover system). Was that a bit too long?

I listen for timber balance that is sound images that pan slowing or pan left to right or left to centre or right centre as well as along the surrounds or in any direction that it was mixed in.

I was listening to that lame STAR TREK II the one of bluray and the one of DVD same versions released last year and the previous ones first and second edition UK region2 and regionB.

There is missing sound effect that is sparking electrical crackling sound on the (right front HF that is not there on the English track).

Listen to one of the other foreign language tacks and its there!

Bluray time 01:17:47

The NTSC laserdisc makes the DVD versions and the bluray shameful! The sound was on the 70mm Dolby stereo print and I could hear it even from 20 meters away from the screen at the Empire 20 years ago, so who was it, mentioned I needed a hearing aid, cheeky bugger.

 

 

So never sale your laserdisc for the sakes of this laughable bluray nonsense it is a con! The studios will keep making up poor excuses time and time and time again to milk you dry! Never Sale Your Laserdiscs! Always keep something at hand for compassion!

Even 2001 is sad case to listen to on DVD and bluay as it was completely re-mixed and all the dialogue panning was gutted and sent to the centre with only a few now and then dialogue half and hard pans.

I've still got the laserdisc! Yes that ancient sad religion to some, but I pity those who are selling there laserdiscs thinking bluray us better. If it was better! I wouldn’t be fucking complaining would I! 

 

 

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#448631
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Warbler has watched The Exorcist(was: Should Warbler watch The Exorcist?)
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Warbler said:

well, I've seen it.  I didn't find it at all scary.  It was ok.  I think I'm going to watch it again at some point to get a better understanding of what I think of it.

Isn't that what Bettlejuice said? LOL

Ah. Well... I attended Juilliard... I'm a graduate of the Harvard business school. I travel quite extensively. I lived through the Black Plague and had a pretty good time during that. I've seen the EXORCIST ABOUT A HUNDRED AND SIXTY-SEVEN TIMES, AND IT KEEPS GETTING FUNNIER EVERY SINGLE TIME I SEE IT... NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT YOU'RE TALKING TO A DEAD GUY... NOW WHAT DO YOU THINK? You think I'm qualified?

 

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#448622
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Who is Ignoring You, and Who are You Ignoring? (was: Who is Ignoring You? (was: Hello all, I'm back!))
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Leonardo said:

Jedi Temple34 said:

bkev said:

Now that I'm ignoring Frink this forum will be a lot quieter ;)

 

Yeah he is an annoying little slug who has a following and that is why there on the ignore list.

Yeah let’s start a thread. Let’s all ignore (TV Frink), the guy does my head in, with that naff avatar its not even a STAR WARS avatar. SIGH

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#448612
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Who is Ignoring You, and Who are You Ignoring? (was: Who is Ignoring You? (was: Hello all, I'm back!))
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bkev said:

Now that I'm ignoring Frink this forum will be a lot quieter ;)

 

Yeah he is an annoying little slug who has a following and that is why there on the ignore list.

Yeah let’s start a thread. Let’s all ignore (TV Frink), the guy does my head in, with that naff avatar its not even a STAR WARS avatar. SIGH

WOW he then starts swearing at you! WOW that is childish and he needs to be spanked!

 

  

 

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#438062
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No oot on Blu means death of new petition?
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Nerfherder said:

There's still over a year to go before this is released - a lot can happen in that time...

I was ready to throw in the towel earlier today, but reading through all the threads made me realise we can still keep on trying, and there's little to be gained by giving up. Even if we just get a "they WILL come out, but not with this set" from George would be something.

The set comes out in the fall next year, so there's tons of time before the discs goto the authoring stages. We can still get media coverage over this thing in the meantime...

Goonies never say die... or something! :p

George Lucas STAR WARS on bluray isn’t worth a piss anymore!