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#106978
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Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
LOL...check my edit and your own email.

" Unless your telling me that Palpatine was hanging out in the Jedi temple when Mace and the other Jedi confronted him to arrest him."

As opposed to believing that the was a security cam in Palpatine's office?


Gmail is being annoying and says I can't get into my inbox right now. =/
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#106969
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Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106969/action/topic#106969
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
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Hey, check your email.

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i find it funny that although i didnt like this movie i can admit what i did like and what things were done well...

however when we make a comment about how something was done bad in this movie... people are just jumping in with explanations left and right trying to back up what was seen onscreen.... lol

maybe it was just a mistake...???
could that be it?

does everything have to have a explanation?

No, everything doesn't have an explanation. Even though I loved the film, I'm really upset about Padme dying with the Leia Plothole and all... And I don't like or buy the "Force memories" explanation. It's just, things like "Why did it take them such a long time to complete the first Death Star, but not the second?" actually have a logical reason behind them. I agree that some things don't make sense, and people are just jumping in with explanations... But really, the Death Star thing makes sense.
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#106960
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Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106960/action/topic#106960
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Yeah. With the first Death Star, they were still testing things out, and I'm sure the plans changed alot during the time it took them to build it. Also, the empire had just been made, so he probably didn't have as many people working on the first Death Star as he did on the second one.

The second time around, he would've had more people doing things twice as fast, and they would know exactly what to do without having to worry about it not working.
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#106951
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Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106951/action/topic#106951
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I'll agree with you on most points, Shimmy. 4 out of 5 stars... yes. Best of the PT... yes. Space battle cool... yes. Better than ROTJ... yes. Cool that they follow some ideas in the NJO... dunno, have only read one of the NJO books. Better than ANH... no. That's the only one I don't agree on. Otherwise, I enjoyed it immensely and I'm an OT purist. Call me a heretic, I don't care. I can like it and I do.


I agree with Bossk on everything. I actually thought Episode III was better than ROTJ. Of course, it wasn't as good as ANH or Empire... I also enjoyed it much more than I was expecting I would, and I am also an OT purist.
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#106939
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Luke's ROTS Review (plot holes included)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106939/action/topic#106939
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Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend
You missed Tarkin? He was standing with the Emperor when Vader walked up at the end. Tarkin walks away. The actor, while not having any lines, does a good job of giving you a 'Tarkin' feel, the way he stands and moves.


Indeed. He did a really good job. And the makeup crew did a really good job of making him look like the actor from ANH, only younger.
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#106929
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Luke's ROTS Review (plot holes included)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106929/action/topic#106929
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Actually Asha, that kind of happened at the showing I went to aswell. Not the silence at the end, but people tended to laugh more at the "NOOOOOO" and the dreams of Padme in labor, more so than they laughed at R2 or Yoda.

Everyone got excited at the end though. When Grand Moff Tarken was on screen, the entire theater started whispering and you heard eveyrone almost at the same time go "whoa, it's Tarken!"

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It was an OK ending, the suns and stuff, a nice reference to the famous ANH scene, but as I said above, they should have a little bit more after the delivery of the babies... More Lars, more Vader, maybe a small dialogue with Tarkin, Yoda going to Dagobah, Obi-Wan arriving at his new home and putting a lightsaber on that box...

Although I thought they ended the movie almost right where it needed to end, I must agree that seeing Yoda land on Dagobah would have been cool. And when we saw Tarken, a line like "Welcome aboard, Lord Vader" or something like that would have been nice... But it was still a great ending as it is, imo.
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#106918
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Luke's ROTS Review (plot holes included)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106918/action/topic#106918
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Everyone cheered in my audience. Most people loved it, as far as I could tell.

Jedikev - Everyone in the theater I was in laughed at Yoda throwing the red guards aswell. Personally, I thought it was a little dumb, but not anything dumb enough to ruin an entire movie... Like Jar Jar in TPM.

Also, Luke, both those plotholes have already been talked about in severel topics, along with some others.

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Also, I saw nothing wrong with the Lizard. I mean, I didn't think it was cool, but it didn't strike me as something to complain about really. You're suppose to focus on the battle and unfolding plot that's going on, and not just think about the lizard. I mean, with or without the lizard, the scene would've been the same.
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#106887
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My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106887/action/topic#106887
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as far as Farther-less Anakin (does that make him a bastard?) and Palps or Plagueous having created him. Just because they (Palps, Plague, or both) created him doesnt mean they were aware of the Prophecy, or doing it to fullfill the prophecy. Maybe they were doing it to create an 'Uber' Sith to destroy all the Jedi. Maybe they were trying to fullfill a Sith prophecy and not the Jedi prophecy that the Council speaks of. Maybe Plagueous created Anakin before Palps killed him (im convinced Plagueous was Palps master and go on that assumption) and Palps knew nothing about it. Maybe Even with his use of the Dark Side, Plagueous was really just a nice guy and just wanted to have a son and settle down or actually restore peice to the galaxy, but just felt that he could 'control' the dark side and gain its power and use it for good.

Okay, first of all: If they wanted to make an uberly strong Sith, they would have kept him and trained him. Not dumped him on some random planet. He would have stayed by Palps/Plagueous' side all his life.

Second: Plagueous could not have created Anakin. Plagueous lived a long time ago, and if he had created Anakin, he'd be much older in TPM. He would not be a little kid.

So, the only two reasons you mentioned can't be true.

Also, I'm aware that Palps was manipulating things to his advantage, I'm just saying there is no way he could have manipulated things with the Jedi finding Anakin and Anakin being trained by Obi-wan ect, ect.

You see?
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#106754
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The Liam Neeson Mystery (spoilers within but questions answered)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106754/action/topic#106754
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Originally posted by: ReverendBeastly
The Shaak Ti scene (which I was also very much looking forward to) was filmed, there was a shot of it in the "Making of Revenge of the Sith" book. I want that book now.

Awesome. I want that book now aswell. I also want that scriptbook that Greencapt has too.

I also want the Star Wars Wildlife book, the Essential Guide to Alien Species and the Star Wars Encyclopedia.

Ugh, so many books and so little money.
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#106748
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The Liam Neeson Mystery (spoilers within but questions answered)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106748/action/topic#106748
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Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend
Do you know if that scene was filmed? Even if it's just a photo, that's all we really need for confirmation that it exists. That's what makes the Qui Gonn scene so difficult to confirm, as the only way to get know the voiceover exists is to have one of the actors talking about it.

I have no idea if it was actually filmed. That's why I edited my post and worded it differently. I heard rumors and such though, and I just really wanted to see it.
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#106744
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The Liam Neeson Mystery (spoilers within but questions answered)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106744/action/topic#106744
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Oh, I forgot to mention this in any of my posts today/yesterday because of all the excitement!

One thing I was really looking forward to seeing was Shaak Ti! After watching the second season of Clone Wars, I realised that Shaak Ti was one badass Jedi, and I would have LOVED to see her death scene. I was dissapointed when not only did I not get to see her die, but I didn't get to see her at all. I really hope she's in the deleted scenes on the DVD.
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#106706
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My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106706/action/topic#106706
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You make a really good point with the Kamino thing, but there's one thing about your post slightly off.

The Jedi DIDN'T want to train Anakin. Yoda, Mace and all those guys were against it, and then Obi-Wan said he would do it if they allowed him to or not because Qui-Gon Jinn told Obi-wan to.

So, if Palp REALLY wanted Anakin inside the council, he would of put him on Courasant. There's just no possible way he manipulated things enough to make it so that Qui-Gon would find him on Tatooine, then even though the Jedi council said not to, he would still be trained...

I mean, even if the Jedi found him, they still wouldn't of trained him, and Palp just got lucky that Qui-Gon was the one that found him... Any other Jedi, including Obi-Wan if it wasn't for Qui-Gon, would NOT of trained Anakin because of his age, and then he'd probably just be sent back to Tatooine to be with his mother.

I just don't understand how Palp could organize and manipulate something like that in that way. It just doesn't work...

Though, the "Christ-like birth" is an even worse idea, so maybe we should just go with this explanation.
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#106695
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ROTS: After the 2nd viewing... (possible spoilers)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106695/action/topic#106695
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We never found out why, when etc. Obi-Wan starts using the name Ben. "I haven't gone by the name Obi-Wan since oh, before you were born." Now, while this is not major it still bothers me. If Obi-Wan changed his name to protect himself, don't you think he should have changed his last name?

That's always bothered me too, but it was always just a small thing. I never worried about it to much.

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Luke: "Do you remember your mother? You're real mother?"
Leia: "Just a little bit. She died when I was very young."
Luke: "What do you remember?"
Leia: "Images really. Feelings."

(You know the rest)

How could Leia remember that? She was like 2 minutes old. Ok, I know what you are thinking, because of the Force. How come Luke can't remember anything?

I've been wondering the exact same thing.

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In ESB, while on Dagobah, Luke says, "there's something familiar about this place."
I was hoping we would find out why. Nope.

Hm... I never thought of that. That's a good point, why does he say that? Is he just feeling the force through Yoda and that reminds him of Ben or something?

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When some Jedi die, they dissapear. We find out why. But not really. I Was hoping for way more on that.

There is a topic a few topics down that semi-explains that.
Here's the link: topic

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Anakin never says that he wanted his son to have his lightsaber. Obi-Wan just takes it.

Obi-Wan also told Luke that Darth Vader killed his father. I think he wanted Luke to think of Anakin as a Hero, so saying "I took this from him and left him to die" wouldn't be his first choice of words.
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#106692
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My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106692/action/topic#106692
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That's what my dad said when I talked to him about it, but I really don't think of that as a reason... It just seems to... far fetched.

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Well, not really far fetched, considering most things in Star Wars are very far fetched.
It just seems like the kind of excuse GL would use to cover up a plot hole... Y'know?

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It makes more sense to me than most of the other plotholes. The Jedi were effectively set-up by Palpatine to train Anakin. Anakin was a ticking time bomb ... a trojan horse the Jedi accepted. In the end, the sole reason Anakin was so deadly was because he was inside the Jedi order.

That's true, but if Palpatine actually created Anakin, wouldn't he have put him on Courasant so that the Jedi would identify his powers early and accept him even sooner? It just is weird that he would place him on some weird, out of the way planet like tatooine and with Shmi, a slave.
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#106681
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My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106681/action/topic#106681
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I felt that too. For the 5 seconds shot from below, showing the officials at that lower part and the emperor, vader and tarkin above looking outside, I felt like I was watching a real Star Wars movie. That's why I think that there should be at least 15 minutes after Vader gets the suit.

It would have been cool if they had showed just a little bit more, but really I think they ended it at just the right moment. One thing I was afraid of was that it would either end to early, or end way after it should have, but GL really did a good job of ending it right where it needs to end before you watch episode 4. I mean, just think how the end of three will link to 4 when watching them back to back. It'll work almost perfectly.

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Welcome to George Lucas World!

Meh. That really sucks. During the 16 years between Jedi and Episode 1, you'd think Lucas would be able to fill in all the plot holes instead of making them bigger...

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Whether I like it or not (which I don't) I took that to be what he was getting at exactly, Simon. They (Plag/Sid) created Anakin, Sid killed Plag, Sid hired Maul, Obi killed Maul, Sid hired Dook, Midi-boy killed Dook, Sid hired Midi-Boy (making him his surrogate brother of sorts with Plag as their 'daddy'???), Midi-Boy killed Sid thus killing himself, Midi-boy reverts to Midi-Jedi and Joanie loves Chachi... oh wait... Fonz jumped over the shark in AOTC, right... I get soooooo confused.

I didn't even think of that... That's an interesting theory. I don't really see how it would work though. Why would Palpatine or Plagueous create a lifeform if they weren't even going to use it? I mean, if Qui-Gonn hadn't found Anakin, do you really think Palpatine would've gone to Tatooine to pick up Anakin? If he created him for the soul purpose of having the ultimate Sith Warrior or something along those lines, he wouldn't kept him from the moment he made him and trained him from the age of like, 3.

Maybe there was something between Plagueous and Shmi that's never explained? Like maybe they had a relationship?

Actually, now. Now that I think about it, that wouldn't work because Plagueous was suppose to of lived long, long ago. Way back before the Republic.

So, really, only Palpatine could have created Anakin, and that just doesn't make any sense and doesn't fit into the story at all. I don't think even GL made something this inconsistent. Maybe you guys are just reading to far into it.