JasonN

Kevinicus said:

That'd work if I was using the DVD.

 Yeah, I just noticed that you said that you have the Blu-ray release.

Kevinicus said:

I would have started by now, but as it stands I need to purchase a AnyDVD HD license in order to get it on my computer.  I can't afford that right now so I'm waiting for another software to work (I have the Blu-Ray, if it was the DVD I'd have no problems). 

No, the DVD also has plenty of problems as it has a new disc copywrite-protection method that makes it impossible to rip it using most DVD ripping programs - you'd need to use the latest release of DVDFab (or download the latest beta) and follow these steps:
1. turned off Pathplayer in Settings
2. turned off Preview in Settings
3. restarted DVDFab
4. inserted TF2 disc
5. chose "Main Movie" chapter 47
6. clicked 'Start'.

Kevinicus said:

I would have started by now, but as it stands I need to purchase a AnyDVD HD license in order to get it on my computer.  I can't afford that right now so I'm waiting for another software to work (I have the Blu-Ray, if it was the DVD I'd have no problems). 

I have skimmed through the first 25 minutes or so and made mental notes of what to cut and how difficult it would be to work with.  So far it seems like I can make significant changes without having to work too hard, so that's good.

I honestly regard Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen to be one of the worse films that I’ve ever seen (right up there with the theatrical/dvd cut of Star Wars Episode 2: Attack of the Clones). However, there were several specific scenes and story elements in the sequel that (believe it or not) worked for me:

- I thought the first six minutes of the “Shanghai robot battle” was rather exciting (it beat the hell out of the remaining action scenes of the film) and it was nice to see the new renditions of Arcee and Sideswipe.

- I loved the idea of Soundwave as a satellite - I think it’s a logical “generational upgrade” for that specific type character, plus his voice always sounded awesome.

So I’d decided to start work on a fanedit of the first Transformers film which (along with numerous others cuts, edits, and improvements) will eventually add those sequel elements into the first movie.

FanEdit Information
Type of Fanedit: True Fanedit
Intention With This Edit: To develop a better cut of “Transformers” which would add a few select scenes or plot elements from “TF2: Revenge of the Fallen” into the story of the first film.
Original Titles: Transformers, Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen
New Title: Transformers: More Than Meets The Eye
Original Runtime: TF = 133 minutes (2 hours, 13 minutes); TF2 = 149 minutes (2 hours, 29 minutes)
New Runtime: 106 minutes (1 hours, 46 minutes)
Time Cut: TF = approximately 34 minutes; TF2 = approximately 142 minutes (2 hours, 22 minutes)
Time Added: approximately 7 minutes taken from TF2
Software Used: Sony Vegas 7 (video editing), Adobe Photoshop CS2 (image editing), Sony Sound Forge 8 (audio editing), Sony DVD Architect 4.5 (DVD authoring), AutoGK (xvid-version encoding)

Release Information
XVID-encoded AVI

• Size: 1.4GB
• Resolution: 720x304
• Aspect Ratio: 2.37:1, 16x9 widescreen
• Audio format: 5.1 Dolby Surround
• Language: English

DVD-9 Release (V2)
DVD Format: NTSC - DVD9-DL
Region: 0 (region free)
Aspect Ratio: 2.35:1, 16x9 widescreen
Audio format: 5.1 Dolby Digital
Language: English
Subtitles: none
DVD Extras: Custom Motion Menus
DVD Extras: “About the Edit” page
DVD Extras: JasonN Fanedit Trailers

Major Edits/Changes
MAJOR EDIT: Sam’s first introduction in the film is now getting into his father’s car to go to buy his own car
MAJOR EDIT: “Qatar Military Attack” sequence is now moved to after Sam gets Bubblebee from the dealership
CUT/EDIT: Cut out the “location subtitles” (a minor issue, but I really hate these - it’s like filmmakers have no faith in the audience’s intellegence)
CUT: Removed Captain Lennox’s “wife/baby” subplot
MAJOR EDIT: A lot of editing to the “Lake Park” scenes to tone down “high school drama” elements and remove the “dumb jock” character
MAJOR CUT/EDIT: Removed as much of the terrible “sex, drugs, and toilet humor” that was previously present in the film
ADDITION: Added Stan Bush’s “Dare” to the car background music of Sam/Mikella’s first ride in Bumblebee
CUT/EDIT: Cut much of the “Bumblebee = Hurbie the Love Bug” scenes, including his stalling out at the cliff edge
MAJOR CUT: Completely cut out the “Girl Analyst/Black Hacker” subplot
MAJOR ADDITIONS: Added several of the Soundwave scenes from “Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen” throughout the fanedit, especially alongside the “Frenzy Hacking” and “Decepticons Mobilizing” scenes
EDIT: Altered Soundwave’s voice through a vocoder to make it sound closer to his original G1 “vocoder” voice
MAJOR EDIT: Reorganized Sam’s “History Class” segment to occur after Soundwave/Frenzy hack into the Pentagon and Air Force One
ADDITION: Added Ravage’s attack on the military complex for the alien metal “shard”
CUT: Removed all scenes of Sam being interogation in the police station
CUT/EDIT: Numerious cuts to the soldiers battle with Scorponac in the desert
MAJOR EDIT: Removed the “Kill Bill” theme music from when Bubblebee upgrades himself
CUT/EDIT: Many cuts and trims to the scenes of Sam searches for the glasses at his home and Sector 7 introduction
CUT/EDIT: Tone down the ‘“over the top” antics of the Agent Simmons character
CUT: Removed the "Soldiers’ Mutiny of Sector 7" sequence
EDIT: Pitch Starscream’s voice higher to closer match his original G1 voice
MAJOR CUTS/EDITS: Numerous cuts, trims, alterations, and even scene rearrangements to the final “City Battle” sequences
MAJOR CUT: Completely removed the original ending of “Transformers” (Sector 7 disbands, Captain arrives home to wife and baby, and Sam/Mikella make-out on top of Bubblebee)
MAJOR ADDITION/EDIT: Used the first 2/3 of the “Shanghai Battle” sequence from “TF2: Revenge of the Fallen” for the fanedit’s finale.
ADDITION: The first End Credits song is Black Lab’s “‘Transformers’ Theme”; second End Credits song is Stan Bush’s “You’ve Got the Touch”

How To Get the Fanedit
http://fanedit.info</span>
(or just PM me)

Video Previews:

Sam drives Mikella home: http://www.vimeo.com/7210690
Soundwave/Frenzy hacking & Sam’s history lesson: http://www.vimeo.com/7210944
Starscream’s “old/new” voice: http://www.vimeo.com/7211060
Bumblebee’s upgrade (without ‘Kill Bill’ theme): http://www.vimeo.com/7229144

Darth Venal said:

That's a really dumb answer, mate...

... Clearly you're the one who's never read up on how to write a script, otherwise your answer wouldn't have been so stupid.

I love it when "know-it-all" people agrue with others:
If they can't tear down another person's viewpoint as being inferior, then they'll just call you a dumbass. :P

shanerjedi said:

ROTFLMAO!

Venal it's a fan edit called Twilight of the Old Republic. Hahaha! That was funny.

Actually, my edit of Episode 2 is called Twilight of the Republic - the title of one of my older SW edits (which combined Episodes 1-3 into a single film) was Shadows of the Old Republic.

shanerjedi said:

Here's the dialogue for The Lost 20 scene I was talking about yesterday:

Obi-Wan stares at the bust of Count Dooku.

Jocasta Nu: He has a powerful face doesn't he? He was one of the most brilliant jedi I have had the privilege of knowing.

Obi-Wan: I never understood why he quit. Only twenty jedi have ever left the order.

Jocasta Nu: The Lost 20. Count Dooku was the most recent and the most painful. No one likes to talk about it. His leaving was a great loss to the order.

Obi-Wan: What happened?

Jocasta Nu: Well, Count Dooku was always a bit out of step with the decisions of the council. Much like your old Master, Qui-Gon Jinn.

Obi-Wan: really?

Jocasta Nu: Oh yes. They were alike in many ways. Very individual thinkers and idealists. he was always striving to become a more powerful jedi. he wanted to be the best. With a lightsaber, in the old style of fencing, he had no match. His knowledge of the force was....unique. In the end, I think he left because he lost faith in the republic. He believed that politics were corrupt, and he felt the jedi betrayed themselves by serving the politicians. He always had very high expectations of government. He disappeared for nine or ten years, then just showed up recently as the head of the separatist movement.

Obi-Wan: It's very interesting. I'm not sure I completely understand.

Jocasta Nu: Well I'm sure you didn't call me over here for a history lesson. Are you having a problem, Master Kenobi?

 

I bold that last line because that's in the released cut at the start of the archives scene. But they shot the whole scene entirely, including all the dialogue I wrote. Now, this is a perfect setup for a "rogue" Dooku.

God, I would sooooo kill to have that footage to add to my Twilight edit...

TV's Frink said:

I think TheBoost is using The Phantom Editor's edit as his base film, meaning he would have to reinsert the meadow and Naboo Queen scenes that The Phantom Editor took out.

Ah, I see (hopefully he'll take out the part where Anakin and Padme bitch at each other in front of the Queen).
-_^

It's been a while since I posted anything on OT about my "Matrix sequels" fanedit, but yes, I've finished the Version 3 (or V3) cut of my The Matrix Evolutions fanedit:

This will be the last and final time that I will work on this edit (which I am now greatly satisfied with) and features additional edits/cuts and several new scenes that were not present in the previous versions.

The DVD9 release is available via RS - if you want links, just ask me by PM or go to http://www.fanedit.info/

FanEdit Information
Type of Fanedit: True Fanedit
Intention With This Edit: To develop a better "Matrix" story out of the sequel films which used the concepts and philosophies present in the first film.
Original Titles: The Matrix Reloaded, The Matrix Revolutions, & Enter the Matrix
New Title: The Matrix Evolutions
Original Runtime: 280 minutes (The Matrix Reloaded = 138 minutes: The Matrix Revolutions = 129 minutes: Enter the Matrix scenes = 16 minutes)
New Runtime: 165 minutes (2 hours, 45 minutes)
Time Cut: approximately 118 minutes
Time Added: approximately 11 minutes
Software Used: Sony Vegas 7 (video editing), Adobe Photoshop CS2 (image editing), Bahaus Mirage (compositing), Sony Sound Forge 8 (audio editing), Sony DVD Architect 4.5 (DVD authoring)

Release Information - Version 3.0
DVD-9 Release
- DVD Format: NTSC - DVD9-DL
- Region: 0 (region free)
- Aspect Ratio: 2.35:1, 16x9 widescreen
- Audio format: 2.0 Dolby Digital
- Language: English
- Subtitles: none
- DVD Extras: Custom Motion Menus
- DVD Extras: "About the Edit" page
- DVD Extras: Deleted Ending - "Enter the Dark Matrix

Major Edits/Changes
CUT/EDIT: Numerous cuts to the various fight sequences throughout the film
CUT/EDIT: Numerous cuts to remove redundant dialogue and bad writing
ADDITION: New scene of Niobe and crew finding the "message" from the Osiris (taken from the "Enter the Matrix" video game)
ADDITION: New scene of the Captains gathering in the Matrix (taken from the "Enter the Matrix" video game)
ADDITION: New scene of Niobe encountering the Trainman in the Matrix (taken from the "Enter the Matrix" video game)
CUT/EDIT: The Kid's role in the story is significantly reduced (and he does not "save the day")
ADDITION: New scene of Niobe and Locke discussing Morpheus's beliefs (taken from the "Enter the Matrix" video game)
CUT/EDIT: Re-edited the relationship between Morpheus/Locke/Niobe to create more ambiguity (there is no "love triangle")
CUT: Removed all scenes/subplots involving Link and his wife Zee
CUT: Removed the Temple gathering and Councilor Hamman's speech
CUT: Removed Morpheus's "Speech to Zion" and the entire "Rave" sequence
EDIT: Neo has a second dream sequence of Trinity's death (taken from Trinity's encounter with the Agent at the end of Reloaded)
ADDITION: New scene of Locke telling Niobe of the "Counter-Attack" plan and sends her away from Zion (taken from the "Enter the Matrix" video game)
EDIT: Moved the "Zion Counter-Attack" sequence to after the Kid gives Neo the spoon
EDIT: The Oracle's speech in the Park has been edited to change the nature of Programs
EDIT: Smith is not a Rogue Program: he is still a part of the System (just a much more powerful Agent)
ADDITION: New scene of Niobe and crew flying in the Logos to find Morpheus (taken from the "Enter the Matrix" video game)
MAJOR EDIT: The Neb's destruction and Neo & company joining the Hammer crew occurs after the Burly Brawl
CUT: Removed the "Neo VS Bodyguards" sequence in the Merovingian's chateu
ADDITION: New scene of Niobe and Ghost arriving in the Matrix (taken from the "Enter the Matrix" video game)
CUT/EDIT: 7-8 minutes have been cut from the "Freeway" sequence to increase tension of the chase, remove unnecessary Bullet Time effects, remove rudundant scenes with Link, and make the System Agents stronger
ADDITION: New scene of Niobe and crew recieving a "help" message from Morpheus (taken from the "Enter the Matrix" video game)
MAJOR EDIT: The "Door to the Source" no longer leads to the Source, but to the Train Station
CUT/EDIT: The "Sati" scenes have been edited to make her less annoying and reduce her impact to the story
CUT: The "battle through Hel" has been removed
CUT/EDIT: Neo's meeting with the "new" Oracle has been heavily edited to make her appear less-helpful and harder to trust her words
CUT/EDIT: Removed nearly half of the footage of the "Battle for Zion" and restructured the sequence to be much darker
MAJOR EDIT: The "Architect" scenes has been moved from the middle of the story to the end (before Neo fights Smith)
MAJOR EDIT: Features a brand-new ending to The Matrix saga

Previews:
The Burly Brawl - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sono17558hg

TheBoost said:

ATTACK OF THE CLONES
Adding the scroll to "Attack of the Phantom." Reinserting the meadow scene (but not the giant tick riding). I think that's the only scene where those kids actually have chemistry. I might add the scene where Amidala talks to the Queen ("When we stop belieiving democracy can work is when we lose it" is a great line). Also removing the name "Darth Sidious" the two times it is used. Dooku remains "Lord Tyrranus" in the final scene.

Both the "Meadow" scene and "Naboo Queen" scene are already part of the theatrical/DVD cuts of AotC (so "re-inserting" them back in is kinda impossible). :P

shanerjedi said:

mrbenja0618 said:

Yeah, where are people finding these deleted scenes? Are there more that weren't on the DVD?

The scene was about the Lost 20 and went into description about Dooku's character. They shot it but it was cut. And yes, there are many scenes from all 3 prequels that were shot but cut that have yet to see the light of day.

Oh, I think I remember reading about that scene in the "Secret History of Star Wars" - it's the one which reveals that Dooku was one of the only Jedi to ever leave the Order, right? Yeah, that would've been a great scene for my Twilight of the Republic edit.

shanerjedi said:

Thx. If you had the Jocasta Nu deleted scenes with Obi-Wan, that would go a long way to strengthening that version of the Dooku character.

 I'm unfamilar with that deleted scene - what is it about?

shanerjedi said:

When was this?

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/SW-ATTACK-OF-THE-FEDERATION-TWILIGHT-OF-THE-REPUBLIC-THE-BLACK-KNIGHT-RISES-DVD-5-DVD-9-VERSIONS-NOW-AVAILABLE/topic/10114/

This is the only version of the scene that I've come across online:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knAtC8lxQJg

Ghost said:

Speaking of this, what is that deleted scene of the the jedi raid of the command ship?

I've heard about that scene multiple times.

If that scene was re-inserted then Dooku with a different lightsaber color probably wouldn't make sense.

If it's the same scene that I think you're talking about (the one with Ki-Adi-Mundi and Jedi storming the droid command center?), that scene would require A LOT of CG effects and audio work before it could be usable in the final film.

Darth Venal said:

Written proof that you have no idea what I'm talking about. That sounds like first year film student talk. Let's leave this one right here, shall we?

I do understand what it is you'd like Dooku to be, sincerely I do. But I think you're either being hopelessly optimistic about what the plot can support or what you can achieve as fan editors.

It's kinda hard not to be hopelessly optimistic about achieving such a thing when I already proved that such a plot and character edit can be pulled off effectively!!!

Seriously, dude, you're the one who doesn't know what you're talking about. I'll say it again: go and watch a fanedit first and then decided whether or not the changes/edits works before you say that such edits are garbage, because otherwise you sound like a stubborn, narrow-minded purist.

RoccondilRinon said:

A rouge Jedi? Wouldn't that mean he should have a red sabre?

Ha-ha... the spelling has been fixed.

Venal, would you just watch my Prequel edits and see how a "Dooku is a rogue Jedi" plays out before you start calling the ideas total sh*t?
:/

Ghost said:

mabey Lucas would give Ady permission to use his tech and edit the PT for him.

Only when the devil starts giving out free ice cream cones and pony rides to all the children of the world...

Ziz said:

shanerjedi said:

The idea has been out there for some time for someone to try and do an ONE prequel film together using the three films.

The idea is that TPM with little Annie would essentially be a prologue and montage with then ROTS serving as the true time film with flashbacks to AOTC moments, etc.

Kinda like the old Godfather edit from the '90's where Coppola edited it together.

It's been done, more than once.

You said it.

Darth Venal said:

...  the Blu-rays will doubtless be out and probably more deleted footage...

Considering that we still haven't gotten DVD-quality versions of the deleted scenes from ANH, ESB, or ROTJ (such as the Biggs Darklighter scenes that we KNOW exist), I wouldn't hold my breath on getting any new deleted scenes for the Prequels.

Ripplin said:

Yep, I have it. Good stuff, of course. But is there any validity in my reasoning as far as your edit goes? I see the "highest level" comment you made, but mine was simply based on combining two colors. Haha.

No, I just posted the video link to show that a purple lightsaber for Dooku was doable.

ben_danger said:

comparisons: (editted on left, original on right)

What's Dr. Robotnik doing in a Star Wars cartoon?  :D

Ripplin said:

mrbenja0618 said:

Dooku as a rogue Jedi.

Y'know, I hadn't thought of it before, but though most people don't like Mace's purple lightsaber, it would kinda make sense for a "rogue Jedi." Part Jedi (blue saber) + Sith-like tendencies (red saber) = "rogue Jedi" (red + blue = purple)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmBR56ciP0U

;)

Awesome cover for ESB, VincentSmalls - I'm definitely interested to see what you have in store for the ANH cover.