I’d be willing to show you what that looks like jarbear. Imo it doesn’t work as good with him saying “Rey” immediately after but it definitely works.
I think “It was fear that kept me here” is better where it is than replacing it with “lesson three.” Fear did keep Luke there, after all. Fear that the Jedi have done more damage than good and need to die out (at the height of their power the Jedi created Darth Vader), fear of facing those he had failed (admitted as shame in the Ben flashbacks), fear of his own creations (it didn’t scare him enough then, it does now). His belief that his self-exile is a penance and a self-sacrifice means it’s not exactly “cowardice,” but it all still comes from a dark place of fear, from a certain point of view.
This.
Anyways, the line itself definitely sounds movie quality now. The trouble is fitting it comfortably into a place in the scene. I would like to see it done as a replacement of him saying “Rey”, but it would also be interesting to push his dialogue forward so it has room to breath in its current placement.
I believe Hal would prefer if it replaced “Rey” instead of “it was fear that kept me here”.
If anybody wants access to the (final?) audio clip, they can play around with placing it in the scene somewhere. I don’t have the means to move Luke’s audio around properly. So shoot me a PM.
The clip is sounding really good, Jar Jar! There’s just a slight pitch thing that I wonder if we could clean up a little more. Could you possibly share the .wav?
Did you see the latest one? That includes a fix by Creation. If that’s the one you’re talking about still, I can pass it along to you.
I agree as well, but that’s slightly out of my talents haha.
I tried your new line and it sounds completely natural now. But it does feel a little squished. Needs some space to breath.
id like to hear the newer version you made.
https://youtu.be/QqQTZyZAbn8 (latest)
Did my own slight audio fade out only because the line is so squished into there.
Also Nev, I’m not entirely sure why you feel they are no longer a master/apprentice. She is still being taught by Leia, and if he weren’t dead, he would still be her master.
Yeah there is a huge gap there. It would fit well over “Rey”. My only concern is that the lessons were originally about the Jedi. At the beginning of his lecture he is talking about things being stronger than blood, which isn’t necessarily about the Jedi. Could work though.
I agree as well, but that’s slightly out of my talents haha.
I tried your new line and it sounds completely natural now. But it does feel a little squished. Needs some space to breath.
Alright, back onto “Lesson Three”
It’s getting pretty darn close. Anybody have any pointers on what else we could change about the line?
EDIT: ThisIsCreation fixed the line up a bit will try putting that in later. And thanks to JXEditor for the “three”!
I kinda liked Babu Frik. Is the movie more effective with him not in the final battle?
I agree. The reason Hal removed him though is because in this edit Kijimi is not destroyed, so why should a mechanic who can’t fly a ship alone tag along on this battle?
Personally, I think including him would still work out. Maybe Babu wanted to be present with Zorri when they destroy the Final Order. Doesn’t necessarily mean that his world has been destroyed. And it is a shame that hilarious moment is removed.
Yeah I think I should clarify again that I don’t think it’s going to work out. I’m just a little confused myself why it doesn’t sound as natural as I thought it would. Mostly going to work on it to answer that for myself, but if for some reason it ends up sounding pretty good I will share it here.
You’re probably right Hal. I already got in contact with JX so no need for anyone else to. I just want to see what I can do with his audio is all.
For those curious, he took the “e” sound from “me” and placed it on the end of the original “three”. That’s why I thought it sounded different. Not sure why “lesson” doesn’t sound as good as it should but I’ll try some things when I get access.
Replace the TIE scene on Pasaana with the following:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mXBfBmf9EE
With the goal, of course, of making her less of a Mary Sue.
I love how you can see her lightsaber flying out of her hand when she does the flip.
I’ll be honest - that detail alone made me crack up for a good 5-10 minutes.
I’m not sure where exactly Jxeditor got the “three” from in that video. It doesn’t sound like the one Luke says when he tells Rey he will teach her the ways of the Jedi (and why they must end). I could be wrong though.
I’ll try it out when I get the time to.
EDIT: JX is on these forums but his last login date was the first of this year. I could probably get his attention through a PM but I already left a comment on the YouTube video. Anyways, I’ll get back on this tomorrow if I have the time.
Last could work well, but it might be best to avoid the suggestion that ghost Luke will never teach her anything else again. I’d still be willing to try it though.
Do you know if he does actually say “third” at any point during the movie?
EDIT: Did another test. The inflection Mark does with the word “lesson” makes it so that it would only sound natural as the first part of the phrase. So it would have to be a word that makes sense after “lesson”.
Alright did a little bit of testing.
Luke saying “lesson” in “lesson two” sounds perfect. The problem is finding a good source of him saying “three”. I tried the one of him telling Rey that he will give her three lessons, but it is too short and doesn’t match.
I seem to recall seeing that as well, Brother. Unfortunately, I also remember thinking it didn’t sound good enough. Maybe whoever made it just didn’t take the right lines to create it?
Regardless, there are some talented people on here so if one of them wants to take a stab at making Luke say “Lesson Three” I’m sure it would end up sounding better.
EDIT: I’m also willing to experiment a bit and produce a rough draft if that’s needed.
Yeah I just thought I’d share that because it directly relates to the chapter you just shared.
I agree that it’s best to leave things between Lando and Jannah alone. But I do feel it would be an interesting concept for these ex-stormtroopers to try and piece together where their real family is. Like searching the First Order databases to see where they were taken from, etc.
But ultimately that is accomplished with Jannah alone, just thought it might be interesting to extend it to Finn.
Insert the following clip when Luke looks inside of Ben’s head while he’s asleep in TLJ:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT5zF5Udf78
Then transition to “And it was beyond what I ever imagined.”
Replace the TIE scene on Pasaana with the following:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mXBfBmf9EE
With the goal, of course, of making her less of a Mary Sue.
Yep, like I said, we would have to do some audio splicing in order to get him to say “Lesson Three”. So this idea may not work out right in the end.
I don’t like the caretaker village sequence because it’s the most egregious use of bathos employed by Rian in the entirety of TLJ. But hey, this isn’t the thread to discuss that so I’ll drop it having said that.
EDIT: Which deleted scene is it that Luke gave his Third Lesson?
So I don’t think Luke actually ever says, “Lesson Three”. You would have to splice together “Lesson Two” and “Three Lessons” from the movie.
The caretaker village sequence was never really the third lesson, it was more of an extension of the second.
I also recall an interesting thing from the leaks before TROS came out. Originally, Lando was going to say that he had a child (unspecified gender) that the First Order took from him. The original indication of this was going to be that Finn thought HE was Lando’s child, only to find out that it was in fact Jannah.
Once again, you don’t have to implement this, either. Just thought I would share what was thought about in production of the product.
Of course the lessons back in TLJ was to disuade Rey from training as a Jedi, or “prove” the Jedi were wrong, but it would be a fun “twist” he plays on the lack of the third lesson (since Rey left) from the last movie and “converts it” to an actual “Jedi good/right” lesson.
Kinda would be a fun play on the whole lessons thing from the last movie.
This is what I was thinking jarbear. This totally would NOT have been the third lesson he gave her on the island if she hadn’t left, but rather it is him sort of making fun of his previous self. He is correcting what his lessons should have been about basically.
Random nitpick here:
“The Aki-Aki species first appeared in the film Star Wars: Episode IX The Rise of Skywalker. In the English subtitles to the film, name of the species is misspelled as ‘Acky Acky’.” -Wookiepedia
You don’t have to change the spelling if you prefer it that way, but I also think the canon spelling looks better. Looks a little less like a child came up with the name lol. Not your fault of course haha.
Tagging on “your spirit, your heart” after “because you’re a Palpatine” doesn’t work with the footage available. But that’s okay, I still don’t think it would’ve been needed. So we can put that to rest.
Didn’t think it would. Thanks for trying though!