Idk, I think the Custom Crawl Creator on this site by JackPumpkinHead looks pretty fantastic when it comes to crawls. Then again, I prefer that more modern look so maybe that’s why.
Hey Hal, are you interested in using RogueLeader’s ideas for Kijimi in Ascendant too? About having it be mid-Civil War with people fighting stormtroopers off in the distance?
(Slight deviation from the Dagger discussions, I know.)
I would be interested in some spray paintings of Luke Skywalker on the walls.
Side note: I cannot get over the fact that the official canon explanation for why nobody came to help on Crait was that the First Order cut communication lines. Like, bruh. The whole point of the movie is that everyone was hopeless until Luke shows up.
It’s actually explained well in the book Resistance Reborn by Delilah S Dawson. It seems dumb when randomly referenced in the novelization, but has a lot of emotional implications for Poe, that ROS evidently ignored.
I realize this is kinda getting off topic, but I’d rather consider the emotional implications of the galaxy at large over one character. Thematically speaking, what was present in TLJ alone worked the best.
Yup, my end goal with this project is to emphasis the importance of relationships. I think that’s the one thing the Jedi of the Republic really messed up with. The evidence is that Ben Solo turned to the dark side because he didn’t have a consistent father figure in his life. So he turned to Snoke.
So at the end of the Skywalker saga I think it should have been made clear that the Jedi were in the wrong for not helping Anakin, yet at the same time Anakin was too possessive and went to extreme lengths. There is definitely a compromise there that can be made.
The line would work best if somebody had explained on screen to 3PO who he is after his mind was wiped.
But yeah, since that didn’t happen, he’s gonna have to say “It appears” beforehand (which implies that he either pieced things together or was told offscreen). Otherwise it sounds too much like something 3PO would say pre-mindwipe. It is funny, but it’s not worth it imo if it doesn’t make sense.
The line would work best if somebody had explained on screen to 3PO who he is after his mind was wiped.
But yeah, since that didn’t happen, he’s gonna have to say “It appears” beforehand (which implies that he either pieced things together or was told offscreen). Otherwise it sounds too much like something 3PO would say pre-mindwipe.
Here is how I’m handling Force healing the snake:
Rey narrowed her eyes as she approached the serpent’s body, and Poe aimed his flashlight, illuminating the creature. Yes, the snake was definitely wounded. A giant gash ran across several segments. She just had to reach it for her plan to work.
In the Jedi texts, there had been an ability called Force healing described in a section exclusively for Jedi Masters. The texts made it very clear that its usage was strictly for healing broken kyber crystals, which were alive. Using it on a conscious being was considered a violation of the will of the Force. Rey didn’t understand why.
Obviously she had failed to use the ability properly on the kyber crystal in Luke’s lightsaber. But this was a perfect scenario for her to get better at it. If she could just improve her abilities, perhaps the crystal would accept the healing. She had to attempt healing this serpent. To prove herself worthy.
Carefully, slowly, she stepped over the serpent’s curved body until she stood within its coils. If it decided to kill her, all it had to do was squeeze…
Rey thought about the farm equipment she’d flown the skimmer over. A grain farmer had probably rolled a tilling blade right across this creature’s lair, flaying it open. Rey reached for the wound. The serpent hissed, and she hesitated. But it didn’t attack. Heart in her throat, she stretched her hand forward, touching the serpent’s cool segments.
Rey closed her eyes. Reached for the Force. Whenever she fought, or leapt through the jungles of Ajan Kloss, or even mind-tricked a stormtrooper into releasing her shackles, she channeled the Force. But this would call for a different technique. This time she would give.
What I like about this is that it makes it clear that only Jedi Masters could be taught this ability (all the more reason for why Anakin wanted to become a Master), and that it was only allowed for healing kyber crystals. The method he wanted to use it would be against the Jedi teachings at that time. But Rey and Ben are going to create a new generation of Jedi that won’t follow strict guidelines like this.
Chapter 7 Changelog:
Weren’t we going to have him say “It appears” before that phrase? Unless we have another reason as for why he would know that information after a mind wipe?
It’s like we are trying to make the movie actually make sense. Lol.
What? No, that’s crazy talk. I thought we were here to implement every TROS idea from the Worst Edit Ideas thread.
I’m down to draw some graffiti designs. I used to be a cartoonist for a living.
Oh yeah that’s right. Sounds good.
Do we have any idea where exactly the art would appear? Obviously on a wall, but at what point in the movie?
Is the saber broken since the training at the beginning? or it starts to fail during Kylo and Rey’s fight?
The idea was that it would only crackle during training, but then it would start to short out during their fight since it’s being put under such force (no pun intended). Although it isn’t absolutely necessary, it would still be cool to see.
Sounds good RogueLeader. Very excited for that stuff.
Testing, another reason (for me at least) that we would want the lightsaber to be crackly is to justify Rey’s feelings of unworthiness about it. If she was unable to completely fix it, it makes more sense that she would feel the need to “earn” it again one day.
It’s most definitely a retcon because Connix literally says in TLJ: “Our distress signal has been received at multiple points. But no response.”
Anyways, my point in bringing this up is that since the title of this movie is The Rise of Skywalker I’d say it’s a good idea to hone in on the thematic side of things. Kijimi is one place where that is possible (as well as the puppet show).
From TROS novelization:
Thanks to some risky assignments led by Poe, Rey, Finn, and Snap, they’d learned that the First Order had been doggedly perusing their sympathizers, restricting communications, cutting off supply lines, capturing or even assassinating allies. In short, no one had answered the call because very few had even heard it.
Makes me feel sick lmao. It’s probably the biggest retcon I’ve ever heard. The others in this movie I consider clarifications bordering on retcon, but this one is absolutely a retcon.
Hey Hal, are you interested in using RogueLeader’s ideas for Kijimi in Ascendant too? About having it be mid-Civil War with people fighting stormtroopers off in the distance?
(Slight deviation from the Dagger discussions, I know.)
I would be interested in some spray paintings of Luke Skywalker on the walls.
Side note: I cannot get over the fact that the official canon explanation for why nobody came to help on Crait was that the First Order cut communication lines. Like, bruh. The whole point of the movie is that everyone was hopeless until Luke shows up.
Well I’m definitely glad you were able to get something done that looks this good in that little amount of time!
He’s referring to what I said and merging it with the concept of Occam’s Razor (wherein the simplest explanation is the most likely one).
And btw, I am not saying that this isn’t a good change. It’s just hard for me to understand why we went out of our way to fix this minor continuity issue while leaving more glaring ones present.
Don’t get me wrong, it definitely deserves to be in every edit of TROS now that it’s been done. But at the same time, I can’t help but wonder: was it absolutely necessary to create in the first place? Because you can rationalize this continuity error with some simple reasoning. Can’t say the same about some others in this movie (looks at Rey’s lightsaber aggressively) 😉
Guess I’m a Debbie Downer like you, Sasquatch, haha.
I’m more neutral about it. I’d say it’s pretty obvious that Kylo had multiple TIEs. Whether they look different or not isn’t too big of a deal imo.
I will say that Poppa did some good work there. Just feel like his talents would have been better served by putting TIEs into Cinefy’s Mustafar shot or something else.
Could Obi-Wan’s line to Yoda be changed from “when you taught me” to “when you found me?”
That sounds like an easier method than mentioning Qui-Gon. Especially since we don’t actually know which Jedi retrieved Obi-Wan as a kid. Reminds me of Plo-Koon and Ashoka.
I don’t know how meaningful it is for a 3 year old to be impatient. Maybe cutting the idea from the PT about Jedi needing to start their training so young too would be a good idea?
Most people here use Hal’s prequels to some extent, so that isn’t an issue.
Come to think of it, Rey has always had absurdly good marksmanship. So it can’t hurt to be consistently absurd.
flashbacks to TIE triple kill
Just quietly, I think this is one of my favorite small bits of editing I’ve done so far to this film:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fe-6n7XalPBHtDnJD7nDz9sG57ayMQYw/view?usp=sharing
I like it as well. But I can already hear the “Mary Sue” comments lol.
The original never actually makes it clear who lands the hit on him. They just all open fire. Come to think of it, why didn’t they start sinking sooner? This would alleviate that minor issue.
Well, that was his arc in TLJ. Which, btw, can we just acknowledge for a moment that some people do not understand Finn’s character arc in TLJ? They always say it was a regression, which is completely false. If you actually watch TFA it’s abundantly clear that he is only tagging along with the Resistance to save Rey. It’s only in TLJ where he aligns himself with a cause.
Sorry about the side rant. Anyways, are you saying that it’s important for the average person to help out with a cause? I can agree there. But at the same time I don’t think the reason Finn wanted to run away from the fight was because he didn’t think he could be helpful.
I do like the idea that Kylo ordered their last stand to be broadcast to the entire galaxy, and then it cuts out when Luke is a badass lol.
Too bad there isn’t a Kylo line you could throw into TLJ like, “Let the galaxy witness their end.” That would be the most subtle approach.
Well, when you look at the trio we discover something new about each one of them in the story. Rey is a Palpatine, Poe was a spice runner, and Finn is Force-sensitive. I’d hate to deny him something new. But at the same time, if I did do the inspirational message thingy for him that might work as a substitute.
Honestly, I feel like they just didn’t know exactly what to do with his character in TROS. I can kinda see what you mean when you say that if he’s Force sensitive it kinda diminishes the idea that anyone could defect from the First Order. Which is why Jannah and Co. was introduced, and why I’ll likely have other First Order troopers help them against the Final Order.