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- The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Not sure it can get much better than that! Easily could have been in the theatrical without me noticing.
Not sure it can get much better than that! Easily could have been in the theatrical without me noticing.
Not sure how I feel about being called JJ of all things lol. (Just kidding, I actually think it’s kinda fitting for this).
Anyway, sounds like the Leia scene trims have been officially accepted? If so, great.
Gonna have to agree with MR here. I’ve been getting those kind of vibes from Testing. That’s why I usually try to put up with his things. Would be quite helpful to know.
Kinda crazy how mirroring footage makes it look completely different. I also noticed that Leia looked kinda mirrored in that scene when I first saw it.
As much as I would be against cutting anymore of Leia’s dialogue, This works really well. Nice work Sherlock.
I mean, the only line being cut is “No”. So nothing lost, really.
Burbin, I always thought that line was super meta and took my right out of the movie. Agreed.
EDIT: If you couldn’t tell, I support Sherlock’s clip. Obviously it just needs some audio work.
I’d be more of build-up. It doesn’t confirm WHY they abandoned her. Also in TFA and TLJ pre-throne room they already give out evidence and hints of Rey’s insecurities. (That’s also my Reddit post.)
In the previous Force bond scene (which takes place right before the mirror scene) Rey denies that her parents abandoned her, so it would kinda be a whiplash 180 turnaround moment imo.
How does this sound? Don’t have access to computer atm.
Rey: I need to finish what Luke started. Find Exegol.
Leia: No. Too long…
Rey: I don’t want to go without your blessing but I will. I will. It’s what you would do.
Something else I was thinking about: Does anyone else think it’s kind of weird when Rey is telling Leia that they have exactly one chance of saving the galaxy before everything is destroyed, and Leia’s response is essentially, “…Nah”? I wonder if there would be some way of supplying Leia with some clarifying dialogue (“Once you’re training is finished…” “You’re not ready for this yet…”). Either that, or just cut straight from “Find Exegol. Find the Emperor.” to Leia looking up, to Rey refueling the Falcon.
Why on earth would Leia reject the one potential chance they have? Why does Rey care about Leia’s “blessing”? If Leia has a legitimate reason for rejecting the plan, why doesn’t she argue the point? (The answer for all of this is that “Disney had a shot of Carrie Fisher saying ‘No,’ and wrote this entire, stupid exchange to capitalize on that shot.”)
Yes please. The reason why she doesn’t want her to leave has been removed in this edit (she knows Rey is a Palpatine).
I’ve already looked extensively through the available dialogue and the only thing there is is “Too long…” before Rey interrupts. Other than that, I think this scene could use a trim or two.
Right, no, now I remember why you have to be vague about Rey’s mental state in that scene: it would spoil the reveal in the throne room.
I’ll have to read over what I’ve already got for that part. I believe it had a lot to do with her feelings of being alone and worthless on Jakku, which is at least somewhat related to what you’re talking about.
I know it wouldn’t be possible for only his prequel memories to be restored because in the later scene he recognizes Luke’s X-wing and realizes that doesn’t make much sense. So if we were to include his prequel memories getting restored it would have to be along with everything else. I suppose that also begs the question of why R2 didn’t give him those memories sooner over the past 50 years.
I concur.
I agree it sounds less jarring but that it also doesn’t have the right inflection. Honestly not sure if I prefer that or not.
Huh I don’t remember hearing that one before for some reason. It definitely has no audio issues except for the tone of his voice being slightly off.
I prefer the new version myself. Option B by a longshot. At this point the only way I can tell it’s been modified is if I have my speakers right next to my ear.
Both Neerb and Ed are right. From how I understand it, it’s for two reasons. First so that he doesn’t die in the fight against Rey. Second so that the most worthy of his Sithy spirit is the last one standing.
Also, if Kylo Ren was trying to show Rey the power of the dark side, having her almost kill her friend with that power would probably have the opposite effect. At this point of the film, it probably would’ve made more sense for the story to demonstrate to Rey how the dark side can help her accomplish her goals. But can’t really do anything about that.
An easy patch for this would have been a single line from Kylo: “I can teach you to control your powers.”
Kylo still has a grudge against Chewie for blasting him. Yeah, it was warranted because he had just killed his best friend in the galaxy, but Kylo probably doesn’t see it that way. In his twisted thinking, he probably believes that Chewie has abandoned him like everyone else and hates his Wookie guts for it.
This could have been expanded on with the deleted scene involving Chewie’s torture. IMO, what would have been a perfect reveal in that scene would be if it’s shown that Chewbacca was aiming at his head for the killing blow after he killed Han but changed his mind at the last second. That would have been a stepping stone toward Ben’s forgiveness and his ultimate redemption.
Particularly with older actors it would likely be impossible to get a sufficient sample size for an AI to replicate. Even with modern day actors, you need a sizable pool of speech audio. Clearly Adam Driver had enough for his own library, but that’s not going to be the case with everyone.
Eh, it’s just a nosy old lady who probably remembers when Owen and Beru lived there.
EDIT: It’s also worth noting that having her ask “Rey who?” is meant to mirror the Aki Aki girl from earlier in the film (the one that asks for her family name).
I’m of the opinion that the alternate take solves most of the cringing in the scene.
I’d say it’s in a good place. The emphasis is on Luke Skywalker since he became a legend.
Once the Empire swooped in they made sure to brainwash the common folk to forget about the Jedi. So any prequel references in the Festival of the Ancestors wouldn’t make much sense
Right I was thinking about when a generation would die off (fitting since we’re talking about “ancestors”). You’re talking more about a new generation being born.
If I recall correctly, she looks a lot more like Palpy with those eyes. Kinda vampiric, too. Can’t wait to see the final product.