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- #1458019
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- The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1458019/action/topic#1458019
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Higher is slightly better.
Higher is slightly better.
Lookin’ good.
Is it just me or does the TIE on the right glitch out visually at the 0:19 mark?
Has anyone seen this short clip from Petrovelly?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp69_iWE_Rw
The second segment is Kylo’s fighter on Mustafar.
Pretty sure Fixing Disney Star Wars were the ones that wanted that done. Wonder why Petrovelly posted it for everyone to see.
Honestly, I’m not a fan of the three-shot version. It feels less cohesive to me. The first shot looks way too dark and doesn’t match the surrounding footage. The TIES in the second shot look like 2D elements tracked on and you can see matte lines around them. Overall, the two-shot version at least transitions from lava to forest whereas the three-shot sort of jumps all over the place. There’s no sense of geography.
Not denigrating the hard work everyone put in to both versions, but that version just doesn’t work for me.
Agreed. Plus, it would be a shame not to use this Biomes footage.
I think it all looks great. Worst case scenario, we can just head canon that the area by Vader’s castle is a lot more dead than in the forest, where there may be a pink mist in the air.
I think the way the camera is moving dictated to me how the ties should fly, so that’s what I went with, but you’re right it’s three shots in a row like that!
If we go with Cinefy’s idea of mirroring the shot, I’ll only point out that we’d have to go back to the V1 forest flyover shot, to maintain a constant right-to-left screen direction between the shots (which wouldn’t be an issue).
Was just about to point this out.
For some reason I seem to recall somebody here actually made a (brief) shot of the TIEs flying straight at the camera above the forest. It was in one of those extra-extended intros that included the Battlefront cinematic. Might have to go digging…
If the forest is now meant to be behind Fortress Vader, doesn’t that mess continuity with the shot MR did that adds the castle behind Kylo as he picks up the Wayfinder?
I would think that would be perfect continuity, no? They’re going deeper and deeper into the forest to get the Wayfinder, and when he gets it you can see the castle behind him in the distance.
The front of the castle faces the edge of a large cliff. In MR’s shot you see the front of the castle towering in the distance so the forest would be somewhere below the cliff. Nev’s shot would place the forest behind the castle instead, from that perspective the back of the castle would be visible, not the front.
Ah I see what you mean now. You’re right, it should theoretically be the back of the castle. Thing is, that might not be as recognizable as the front is. So maybe logic should be abandoned here for something that catches your eye instead.
Dang, that’s a nice shot Poppa.
If the forest is now meant to be behind Fortress Vader, doesn’t that mess continuity with the shot MR did that adds the castle behind Kylo as he picks up the Wayfinder?
I would think that would be perfect continuity, no? They’re going deeper and deeper into the forest to get the Wayfinder, and when he gets it you can see the castle behind him in the distance.
So If I re-editted TROS, Pasanna would just be another place on Jakku because I always felt that Jakku was much larger and important than what others just say “it’s a rip off of Tatooine” I feel like Pasanna should have always been Jakku basically because this film we’re learning Rey’s Origins and her arc is completed.
Come to think of it, that would explain why her parents would be buried on Jakku.
Lookin’ good.
As I understand it, the TIEs will be headed toward the back of Vader’s castle? As in, the forest we see is located down that way?
For some reason I’m unable to load Nev’s video.
I do have Chase Adams’ Darth Nihlus shot saved before it got taken down.
But that’s gone through YouTube compression and stuff we’d need the original source.
And, yeah, according to MR there would be a continuity issue in the wide shot if it isn’t modified as well.
What about Luke’s haircut?
I think we decided it looked passable enough even though jonh wasn’t fully satisfied with it due to a few minor visual issues.
I’m also curious about that Nihilus statue because I thought that looked passable as well.
What if Jedi Rocks reverberates through the bar on Kijimi?
Ngl this is actually not a bad idea lmao
The movie needed more Vader… please keep his ship :v
It needed more Anakin in general, lol. Since, ya know, the saga is supposed to be about him.
I’m indifferent lol. On one hand I see the poetry of Ben flying his grandfather’s ship, and yet I also think the shuttle is much more realistic (who knows how many of those things were in the Death Star).
For the scene when Luke surrenders himself to Vader, is it still being considered changing Vader’s line from “Obi-Wan once thought as you do” to “Your mother once thought as you do”?
An interesting thought I’ve had recently is that they might try to make this line make more sense retroactively through the Kenobi show. As in, before they fight Obi-Wan is like, “Come with me, it’s still not too late.” We’ll see.
I don’t see the problem with Pryde saying Palpatine & co. “conjured legions of Star Destroyers”, I don’t think he means that they literally materialized the ships out of thin air. It’s just a riposte to that other officer calling them “conjurers”, he’s simply stating they have brought forth a large & previously unknown fleet, as if being “conjured”.
In any rate I don’t think Pryde would be privy to the inner machinations of the Sith Eternal and their ‘fleet conjuring rituals’, so I don’t see how this line could be read as him explaining the origin of the Sith Fleet.
On the other hand, Kylo was the only person who even went to Exegol (as far as we know), so all any of them would know is what Kylo told them. Why would Kylo, in his official report, say that Palps had “conjured” Star Destroyers if he hadn’t? I’ve always interpreted as Pryde being literal (not to mention, it’s the closest thing the original film offered to an explanation for the Sith Fleet’s existence).
Personally, I’m not super concerned about this either way. If Pryde/the script wants to say that the Sith Fleet was conjured…fine, whatever. It’s not the stupidest thing in the film by a long shot. But if Ascendant does want to downplay that whole aspect…like Chase said, it would probably be more in line with that goal to trim the line.
Plus, the intel from Hux that Poe shares outright states that they’ve been BUILDING the fleet for years.
And even then, one possible interpretation of that statement is that they’ve been building ON the fleet. As in, there was a stockpile, but they’ve also been expanding upon it and upgrading the weapons (BTW this is the answer that I think makes the most sense because it’s a hybrid approach).
Honestly my bigger issue is with the line “Conjurers and soothsayers.” as it feels like a complete rehash of Motti.
Both characters were part of the original Empire at one point, where that was a common belief with Imperial officers because of the Emperor’s propaganda.
The Captain Hux audio sounds a bit off to me still. Good effort though.
Yeah now that I’ve been able to listen to it with headphones I can fully agree.
I believe MR did them but they didn’t turn out as well as he’d hoped. Something about the smoke effects or something.
Are you sure that Reddit comment wasn’t from a recently banned member here, Hal? Lol. Just sounds like the sort of thing he might have said.
I wouldn’t sweat it. This project is the work of many passionate fans, and we have given plenty of thought to these changes. Plenty of ceaseless debates, I might add haha.
Ooh that’s definitely an improvement. Imo not entirely sure if it’s 100 percent there yet but that might be a minority opinion.
I personally don’t have a preference. I almost feel like I’d need to watch some of the previous movies to see if the credits music starts playing AFTER the visual transition is finished or when it starts. Because that’s the biggest difference between the two.