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- #1524387
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- The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1524387/action/topic#1524387
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It sounds perfect to me: https://streamable.com/1v7nuf
It sounds perfect to me: https://streamable.com/1v7nuf
You don’t really have much control, you just generate it again if you don’t like what it spits out. There is a variability bar which if you put on the lower end can give you a more emotional response, at the cost of it being more “unstable”. Sometimes this allows her to whisper a bit.
What exactly do you mean by “loud”? As in, something that reducing the volume of it could fix, or the way that she is speaking is in a speaking voice instead of more of a whisper?
EDIT: This is probably the best you’re gonna get - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l-kgimh_BF1_1dlaYEu29EhNKMiz8Db-/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-rw-c2Pjq28ViL5KS0okc0GxZnU8oQVq/view?usp=sharing
I like adding a line when Leia gives Rey the saber back but the tone of the delivery in the mockups there just don’t match for me.
This delivery is better imo: https://drive.google.com/file/d/16BhRukixeGwe12r3KdhGqIuaFhh52urn/view?usp=sharing
I like that idea Nev. Or maybe he says, “I’ve foreseen it”. Once I got Mark’s voice loaded stuff like this will be possible.
You can definitely interpret it that Luke is fighting to keep on living. I definitely do. It’s only when he sees the twin suns that he realizes that the future is now secure without him. Having Obi-Wan’s line makes his conclusion more explicitly clear. Perhaps Luke could have fought to live on, but that would not be the Jedi-like thing to do. He did everything that he needed to in order to aid the Resistance.
Lol Hal
I think the simplicity of a callback to ANH is enough. To become a Force ghost, you’ve gotta “let go” of your personal desire to live on. That’s a Sith thing.
Here’s a mockup of what I stated earlier about making it clear how Rey learns Force healing (and therefore why it’s rare; it’s ancient):
Definitely needs audio work (a little echo/reverb) to make it sound like she’s in the cave with that line.
This certainly isn’t my edit, but I’d like to throw my two cents into a few of these.
- We also talked about Rey’s crackly saber actually shorting out at some point - did anything get finished there?
I’d love to see this, in addition to some lightning shooting out of Rey’s hand at Finn during the duel. Both of these would give Rey further reason to abandon everything and go to Ahch-To. The lightsaber shorting out she would blame herself for - since clearly her Force healing didn’t fully restore the crystal. And then if she did that to Finn she would feel like she’s putting her friends in danger just by being around them.
- Audio effects suggesting that force healing (“the power to prevent those we love from death”) is more of a darkside power could help explain why it’s not more commonly known or used.
I think the filmmaker’s intention here was that Force healing was described in the ancient Jedi texts. It makes sense that the Jedi in the prequel era wouldn’t condone this ability because of the whole “will of the Force” and “train[ing] yourself to let go of what you fear to lose” stuff. This ability doesn’t make sense as a darkside one because it is truly selfless; you’re giving some of your own life to somebody else. Palpatine uses the dark side version of this ability to suck the dyad out of Ben and Rey. A better solution, in my opinion, would be to create a Rey voice clone and have her say under her breath “I read in the Jedi texts…” as she is approaching the snake. As for why Kylo can use this ability later on, the easiest explanation is because of the dyad.
- I’d love to have Kylo tell Han’s ghost/vision/memory “I love you” before Han replies “I know”, preceding Kylo throwing away his saber. Poetry yes, but also a beautiful inversion of how it was first used.
I thought the same thing when I first saw the movie, but I’ve come to appreciate how it’s more implicit. Ben doesn’t need to say that part out loud, Han already knows what he is going to say and says his signature response.
- A longshot that’s likely dependent on AI, but possibly the only opportunity to answer “a good question for another time” might be to have Lando talk to Maz during the finale celebrations, perhaps: “You did a great job taking care of that lightsaber I entrusted to you, Maz”.
I’ve provided Nev with a line that will explain this in TFA instead. The deleted footage of Leia handing Maz the lightsaber will be used in Rey’s vision, and she will say “Keep it safe, my old friend”.
- Might there be a way to improve on “I made Snoke”? Perhaps “I trained Snoke. A puppet designed to make you who I needed you to be.”?
As I mentioned in a previous post, a Palpy voice clone is sadly not very likely to be possible.
I see. In that case, here’s something we might be able to squeeze in there as new material:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FL60wHKuihzqzCJ9izyWPUu7WHsvKwCl/view?usp=sharing
I was envisioning having both of them in a similar way to the TFA vision. You can hear old Ben say “Rey?” and another line in that film. I think that it adds to the whole “timeless” nature of the Force. I mean, we already have the youngling that Anakin killed speaking in an older voice.
How do we feel about adding another voice to the past Jedi? https://drive.google.com/file/d/10gaZiiEHDo1EacBN1ss0HmDmeM0JhN-j/view?usp=sharing
Given this line, we could alternatively have Ben’s voice morph into a younger Obi-Wan as he speaks.
I mostly said that as a joke, Burbin. I know it’s hard to tell through text.
I agree that having Palpy’s message play right after Rey asks what it is was pretty nice.
Adam Driver is a tricky one because he doesn’t usually get too involved in things. I initially tried using his TED talks, but that has background noise and too much mic reverb. I noticed he recorded an audiobook back in 2015, but for some reason it doesn’t sound much like him based on the sample Amazon gives.
If he does, it would be good for a Chancellor Palpatine model. But he does a completely different voice as Emperor Palpatine. More toad-like.
Unlikely, since it would require a lot of content of Ian speaking in that voice without any background noise.
I’m fairly certain I should be able to get Mark’s voice on the 21st. Using about an hour of book readings (not just characters speaking) gives a fantastic result in all of my other cases.
Combined with deepfake technology, actors will never die (or age in the case of Mark Hamill and Luke in Mando)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1R4FLVNZatFEu4GlfNWAioQjxsO6SgJNK/view?usp=sharing
I got impatient: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BPM-1f4-nv-q5rXsa5a66uMPU_GesnIo/view?usp=sharing
Alt take: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-yte_KMK83bgpvT75asR3MLU9vK4Lp4k/view?usp=sharing
Well, it would certainly be better than a Fortnite speech lol
I’m starting to run low on characters for the month, so let’s nail down what we want her to say before I do anything else. Alternatively, if somebody wants to use their free month trial, I can send them Carrie’s audio files.
But wasn’t the goal to imply that the ships were a stockpile? How could we imply that with Leia’s opening line?
So I actually managed to find an hour of Alec Guinness reading, and the voice it generated is completely flawless. I mostly wanted this so I could create a “Let go, Luke. Let go.” for TLJ during Luke’s death scene, but I know some others mentioned possibly using it here.
I concur. I’d love to see how it looks when Sith Rey flares her teeth at actual Rey!
Feel free to consider this: https://youtu.be/_NoNU4g26A4
Might need some audio work.
That’s pretty terrifying. But in a good way. Damn. Could you put that on her eyes in her vision toward the beginning of the film? Where she’s sitting on the throne?
Also, I think Nev may appreciate your help on Starlight for this effect. Unless they want a more subtle approach over there.