Janskeet

Why won't Lucasfilm give us more info on these? Why do they have to be such stubborn pricks?

ESHBG said:

Well I for one don't want a CG Yoda for many reasons, with one being that it actually gave the film some warmth. Also, it is more tinkering and changing, and that is what ruined the original films...what was done is done and leave it alone!

Now, a director's cut version of EPIII with the Rebellion scenes back in that were found on the extra discs, that I would be all for. I will never understand why those were cut in the first place, as the Rebellion is a huge part of what SW is all about.

While I do agree there should've been scenes of the start of the rebellion movement in episode 3, I did not like the scenes that were filmed. They weren't very well acted and the dialog sucked, what else is new.  They had that Luciferian touch. ;-)

This is the forth shitty DVD release in 4 years! How many times can he re-release the same thing? My theory why these are not in blu-ray is because GL knows that with blu-ray he'll have plenty of more space on a disk to work with. He'll have plenty of room to store more than one version of a movie on one disk and he knows that he is obligated to give us what we want even more with that format since there is so much more space. So he's keeping it on DVD as long as he can so he doesn't have as much of an obligation to put more stuff on the disk like the OOT, deleted scenes, vintage documentaries, and behind the scenes footage. He doesn't want you to know too much about what went on behind the scenes and the history of star wars. It'll blow his cover that he didn't have as much control or skill as a filmmaker making the movies, and had a lot less knowledge of where to take the films than what he wants us to think.

Gaffer Tape said:

Well, another year another Star Wars repackaging. It's genuinely hilarious that the only year they've skipped was the 30th anniversary. Maybe that was done out of respect.

LOL, Lucas decided his tyranny should be put on hold that year.

Baronlando said:

I thought there had to be like, demand for a product to be released. The Star Wars Row at every Best Buy in town is as unchanging as Mt. Rushmore, if this is more of the exact same discs, I really don't get it.

Maybe the fan money will start to slow. This year alone, the Big Millennium Falcon, Force Unleashed, and Clone Wars tickets are 3 things that I didn't buy, but would have if this situation were taken care of. Hopefully the numbers will add up to the point somebody cares.

Yeah it's hard for Lucas to think of anything new to do for the movies when he's trying to evade everything we want.

One of these days Lucas is gonna learn he can't keep treating us like shit, or not.

negative1 said:

Janskeet said:

I'm thinking about buying a laserdisc player and OOT laserdiscs. Do you know a good website to find them?

 

i got mine from ebay dirt cheap.. $50 overall (unit+shipping) denon LD player,

in near perfect condition, and all the LD's are cheap (except the japanese special edition

set).... you can find the orignal OOT from fox, widescreen and full screen, then the

re-released widescreen OT versions, and then the THX faces set, and also the definitive

CAV box set for very cheap prices... CLV discs put more video on the disc, so you don't

have as many, and don't have to flip them over.. CAV discs have more video data per

side...so you have more discs, but better quality, and you step FRAME by FRAME through

them to... look into all the options...

 

later

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So which version do you suggest I buy? Also, can I find anamorphic versions?

I'm thinking about buying a laserdisc player and OOT laserdiscs. Do you know a good website to find them?

I know I'm a little late to say this, but at the time I posted this, I was on break at work and the computer in the break room is one of those client types, but it's really cheap and freezes up often. Anyway, when I posted it in the General forum for some odd reason did it three times so sorry about that and thanks for your help on this question.

Yeah, I'm glad I didn't bother buying the GOUT. Why can't Lucas just handle this like a man and quit being a selfish prick? I'm thinking about searching the web for a laser disc player and laser disc prints of the OOT. I think SW and SW extras might be the most fun to watch on an old format. Something about watching it on an old technology just makes it special. The first time I watched SW was on a Sony beta max. I think that made it special in a way.

skyjedi2005 said:

What i meant was star wars no longer exists to tell a story. It only exists as a marketing thing for Lucas computer division to show how advanced their effects are.

To get other directors and artists to hire them for projects.

 

Star Wars is the dead horse that has been beaten into dust, the cash cow that lucas whored out to become a billionaire, whilst tarnishing his reputation as a reputable storyteller and filmaker.

 

The whole process of consolidating Both ILM and the games devision lucasarts into one thing was done because they basically did the same thing computer animation, Lucas opened up the presidio for this.

Also the end of in house development by Lucasarts and all their future games being outsourced cannot be a case other than greed.

Same thing with starting a animation company in singapore to outsource animation to, to take jobs away from American animators.

Lucas is nothing but another Media Conglomerate businessman. He lacks any creative input or a vision.

His "vision" was to destroy the only good movies he ever made.

George Lucas should just stick to producing video games. He likes to boss computer animators around and it seems to be the only thing he is good at. He even admitted he doesn't like writing and directing and it shows! Why doesn't he just stick to what he likes doing. Producing video games. I think I read somewhere that at one time before the prequels were made someone suggested to GL to just stick to producing animated movies because they recognized his lack of skills/interest in writing and directing movies.

I'm not sure this is real, you'd think there would be more publicity on it since it's coming out in November which is only 2 and a half months away. With the GOUT we first got news on it back in May '06, a good 4 and a half months before its release. Why so little detail on what comes with the OT set? I wonder if Lucasfilm is still trying to decide what to put on the disks. I'm pretty sure Lucasfilm wants to do an all six movie set, if this set is real, it will probably be another two years before we see all the movies in one set.

skyjedi2005 said:

 

"George has proven he can no longer tell a good story without whoring his cgi wares."

 

What are you talking about? GL hasn't made anything good since he started "whoring his cgi wares."

Are these going to be in Blu-ray also? If Lucasfilm just reuses the shoddy '04 version than I can't see this new OT set selling well. Lucasfilm knows better than that. There has got to be new stuff included in the OT set from what we saw in the '04 DVDs set.

Not only anamorphic widescreen, but also including a wealth of vintage documentaries, behind the scenes footage, deleted scenes, etc, and a menu system that captures the OT that isn't so immature and kiddish like the '04 DVDs.

Wow, I didn't think Lucasfilm would be making another set so soon. They really shot themselves in the foot the way they kept releasing different box sets of the same versions after the '04 DVDs. They should've just learned from their mistake from the '04 DVDs, skipped the '05 and '06 sets and made a really bitchin' blu-ray set for the '07 Christmas season to celebrate the 30th anniversary of star wars.

I have a bad feeling looking at that box set. They didn't use the old school logos of Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi on the outer box. I always loved those logos. Lucasfilm has never used them again since the '95 VHS release if I'm not mistaken. The new logos that just have the title of the movies printed in times new roman on top of the episode number in roman numerals is so boring to me.

I have never really played many SW video games but from the looks of it, ever since the prequels started coming out the games have looked like they suck. Can you give me a list of good and bad SW games. I liked Rogue Squadron for the N64, otherwise non of the others really kept my attention for more than five minuets.

Johnboy3434 said:

skyjedi2005 said:

They guy is a self labeled Machiavellian dictator over his films. He admits he's a stubborn ass and wants things his own way, but says he won't apologize.

 

Why should he?

Because we put him on the map, without our money he'd be nothing. Also, he's treating us like 2nd class citizens.

I wouldn't be surprised if in the next DVD set GL starts re-editing and re-writing the documentaries to make it look like he had more of the story preplanned ahead of time than what he actually did. I wouldn't be surprised if he starts saying stuff like, "I always originally intended Darth Vader to be Luke's father, Leia to be Luke's sister, Greedo to shoot first, Hayden to be in ROTJ, and Jar Jar Binks to replace character of Chewbacca in the OT." Knowing him, he'll probably will actually do that the next DVD set. He'll say, "at the time, technology wouldn't allow me to make Chewbacca the way I wanted him, so I compensated for a man in a furrry suit." "Now I get go back and replace him with Jar Jar, the way I originally intended it." He'll say, "from my initial conception I already had the whole story made up in my head." I wouldn't be surprised if he starts hiring bounty hunters to find and destroy any documentaries and versions of star wars made prior to '97 after that. I remember somewhere he said he was looking forward to the time when all the VHS tapes have deteriorated beyond repair and all that remains is his DVD versions to live on forever. That was said prior to the release of the GOUT. But that will never happen to the future generations of SW fans, thanks to websites like this, the growing internet community, and the fact that people are moving away from corporate media to get their news and more towards forums and less biased news sources on the internet, most star wars fans will find the truth. Also, I think by the age of 17, most star wars fans will start to see the faults of the SE and the PT and see GL for who he is instead of what he wants us to think of him.

So what documentaries do you think will be in the next set? Will it be more of the Empire of Dreams crap? Where we see modern Lucas ideology, heavily edited crap to make him look good? Or do you think they will include a wide variety of documentaries from all time periods that will satisfy even the biggest fans?

Jesus Christ, we've had George Carlin, Heath Ledger, Tim Russert, Bernie Mac, not Morgan Freeman now! What are they going to do for the next Batman sequel without Morgan Freeman?!! Sure they could work their way around him, but geeze they already lost Heath Ledger and it seems like they weren't ready to let the Joker go in A Dark Knight. It seems like there has been a lot of celebrity deaths this year.

Blue Ray might become a more desirable format to watch movies on. Due to the print size on the disks being smaller, they are using a better protective coating finish over the disks so that they can withstand more abuse. I really don't understand why people handle DVDs so sloppy.  It's not that hard people! A lot of times,  I would find DVDS and especially video game disk had scratches and pizza sauce on them,  that has been especially common on video games disks. Frankly since I was 15, I lost interest in the video game craze. So many people my age are so into video games, but I just can't get into them anymore. I find them boring. My best times playing video games was when I played the N64. Goldeneye was definitely the game I played most often. We had such a blast playing multi player, and when we got bored with that, then we played solo and tried to beat the next level on 00 agent, when we got bored with that, we went back to  multi player. It was a glorious time. From time to time, I still play the game, though it's been awhile since the last time.

skyjedi2005 said:

This is where i think the studios ideas of downloading HD movies have to be joking. A blu ray film is 50 gigs. If it takes about for hours for a 4-9 gig file even over studio websites how can they claim instant access in the future to such content It would take a day or 2 even at the fastest speeds to download a file that big.

We are at least 5 or 10 years away from that being viable even for the most wealthy internet users. Nevermind the areas that do not get cable internet or fiber optic in this country or worldwide.

I don't know what the data transfer rate to watch movies in real time is but for a 20 Mb connection you maybe close to watching standard DVD movies in real time with little or no lag. I'm looking forward to the time when you can watch movies online because I hate renting them, they're always scratched, it's too expensive to buy every movie you watch, and the red box only carries movies from like up to a year ago. A lot of people are starting to post movies on youtube and the quality sucks but at least it is free and with my 4.7/640 DSL I can watch youtube videos in standard quality with no lag.

shyjedi2005, do you know that a megabit and a megabyte are two different things? A megabit (Mb) is 1,000,000 bits. A megabyte (MB) is 8,000,000 bits. A byte is 8 bits. Internet service is always advertised in bits per second. So if you have 20 megabit service, divide that by 8 and that is how many megabytes you should see downloaded per second downloading from a site that does not cap you download speed, but most do cap. Especially at that speed. So you should see 2.5 megabytes per second downloads with that speed. You're making it sound like Version Fios sucks. I think it is the best internet/television/voice service you can get residentially. Ping times are also optimal on a fiber optic network. Plus your data is literally traveling at the speed of light, on copper lines there is a lot of packet loss and errors and the data doesn't travel quite as fast as the speed of light a long copper so your internet is literally faster. I wish it was available where I live.

Not throwing in virus and spyware protection is no big deal. There is plenty of free internet protection stuff, and that is so overated. People want you to think the internet is a dangerouys place so you will buy anti spyware/virus protection. Comcast charges an arm and leg for that crap you don't even need and they hit you with tone of hidden rental fees for stuff like that.

Is it just me or does it seem like an awful lot of celebrities are dying this year more than usual?  Heath Ledger, Tim Russert, Bernie Mac, and there's plenty others that I can't think of at the moment. There was a website on it I'm trying to find on google right now, but I did stumble apon this. It's a website of celebrities who should've died sooner. I think George Lucas should be on this list and died in 1995. Can you imagine how much more highly we would think of him now if he died then? We would've thought the prequels would've been amazing. If there is one thing good to come out of the prequels it is sending the message you don't have to be genius or even a good filmmaker to make good films as long as you surround yourself with competent people.

lordjedi said:

You should get a Costco membership Janskeet. You can buy those things practically by the case from there. Mmm, Gummy Bears.

Are you taking about Realfruit gummies made by Dare Foods? Get em by case, that would be a dream come true!