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Jambe Davdar

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#271737
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Info: The Making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/271737/action/topic#271737
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Darth Neo,

Thanks for your noble and considered reply to what, for me, has been a very interesting 24 hours. This time yesterday I didn't know that this doco even existed and for that I thank you (again )

It's a shame that you had to see the darker side (no pun intended) of this forum. It is usually a very decent place to be. Some people just feel that they have a right to get what they want (see the comments on how 'unfair' the lack of an NTSC copy of 'Returning to Jedi' was!). Equally there are many good people here and I hope you don't become a stranger to the forums.

I totally understand your position. Some of us have been privy to things that we cannot tell other people. At least you are honest. These days thats a virtuous characteristic not found in many.

I look forward to our continued communication (jambe.davdar at gmail) and I wish you all the best with your website. I am really looking forward to it.

Regards
JD
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#271732
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THE MAKING OF JEDI MONSTERS - CHICON IV - 11 Minute Video
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/271732/action/topic#271732
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Ok, well we've had the news that there's another TESB doco out there, I have just found out there is another Jedi one!

I have just had word that an eleven minute doco exists that was made specifically for CHICON IV in 1982. Lucasfilm Senior Vice President of Marketing, Sidney Ganis along with Producer Howard Kazanjian showed it to the convention audience as part of an hour long 'REVENGE of the Jedi presentation'.

I also hear that it was shown again at Celebration 3. Did anyone here see it?

Does anyone have any further information on this?

Thanks
JD
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#271711
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Info: The Making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/271711/action/topic#271711
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Hey Darth Neo,

Good morning. I am sorry that you have woken up to find feuding on this thread.

The majority of us respect your decision not not distribute this documentary, particularly when your source has asked you not to. However, in my experience (as with the rare 8mm Yuma footage) once I contacted the original owner and expalined the originaltrilogy community, they were more than happy help. One of his friend shut the door saying that he would never give it up! Have you asked your source directly?

This community is not just about trading. Some of us go to great lengths to produce original material to simply share with the other members of the forum. 'Building Empire' and 'Returning to Jedi' for example cost me a great deal of money and time to produce and I have not sought any financial or material recompense for it. I did it just for fun.

In the meantime, I have contacted my many collector friends and a few other prominent contacts to see if they can offer a copy to the community. Hopefully together we can manage it and not compromise your relationship ad agreement between you and your source.

Welcome to the forum and once again and thank you for bringing this rare gem to our attention.

JD
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#271541
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Info: The Making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/271541/action/topic#271541
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Darth Neo,

Well I can say with some conviction you are the most interesting new member on this forum for some time (to me anyway).

Thanks VERY much for uploading that clip. It's clearly evident that it would have been a great resource to me when I was making 'Building Empire'. To be honest I am blown away to find out that there is another 'making of' doco packed with great stuff.

I hope that in time you will consider sharing this in it's entirety. This forum is full of people with a genuine love of the original trilogy. "The Making of The Empire Strikes" back would make a great addition to the list of preservations.

JD
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#271526
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Info: The Making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/271526/action/topic#271526
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As far as I knew Michel Parbot was a camera operator on SPFX (but I knew of him as Michael). I didn't realise that all of this B-roll was used in another doco!

He is listed as "image: Michel PARBOT" on the credits of "Temps X". "Image" presumably meaning camera?
http://www.zen67493.zen.co.uk/parbot2.jpg

I wonder if Mr. Parbot is still around. His last project entry on IMDB was in 1992. It appears that Sygma also made a behind the scenes doco for 'Moonraker', called "007 in Rio".

UPDATE: Found this mention with regards to the origin of R2's name:
"...so he tried to shorten his work by not calling for "Reel Two, Dialogue Two", but for "R2-D2". This version was narrated in the Making of The Empire Strikes Back. When the Annotated Screenplays came out however, Lucas personally corrected this story and said that all names in the movies were selected just to have phonetically pleasing and easy-to-speak names."
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UPDATE: Also found this

"Irvin Kershner, from The Making of the Empire Strikes Back documentary:

"Science fiction has certain qualities that you have to respect. All kinds of scientific jargon. We've eliminated all scientific jargon. There's almost none. Just a touch, like salt and pepper. It's not a science-fiction movie.""

As far as I can remember these are not lines from SPFX. Neo are these mentioned in your "Making of"?
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UPDATE: Is this a mention of it's airing., or is it a reference to SPFX?

"I also taped "The Making of the Empire Strikes Back" off the same PBS station around the same time. It's amazing. They are safe and sound in the archive."
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UPDATE: It hasn't been shown on the BBC in the UK. Well it isn't listed in their database anywhere.

JD
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#271515
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Info: The Making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/271515/action/topic#271515
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Holy guacamole!!!! What the hell is this!? I have never seen it before but it's clear that some of the footage was re-used in SPFX and Temps X. Yes, I really wished I had this when I was doing 'Building Empire'. A true understatement!

How did I miss this one?

It would be great to get hold of this and I would love to show Mr Kurtz a copy of 'BE'. Neo, I understand if you don't want copies of this doco being released if you have been asked not to.

Regardless, I am excited about this one! I really thought I had found everything. Great to find out that I was wrong.

JD
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#271426
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//RETURNING TO JEDI\\: NTSC & PAL DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/271426/action/topic#271426
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Thanks MoveAlong. Hearing that from someone who's projects I admire is pretty damn cool. I am a big fan of your menu work too. Perhaps we should collaborate sometime.

To be honest, I am looking forward to the Star Wars project too. Goodness knows how I am going to top 'BE' and 'RTJ'. I also have the job of trying not to step on ocpmovie's toes too much. It is certainly going to be interesting.

JD
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#271282
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//RETURNING TO JEDI\\: NTSC & PAL DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/271282/action/topic#271282
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Thanks Moth3r, I really appreciate that.

In answer to a question posted recently:

I managed to track down the owner of the 8mm 'Yuma' film footage after a tip-off from a forum member who knew one of the guy's acquaintances. This acquaintance was unable to contact the owner of the film but he gave me enough info (a full name) for me to find him myself. I was delighted to hear back from him and so pleased that he was willing to make such a fantastic contribution to 'Returning to Jedi'.

JD

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#271274
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//RETURNING TO JEDI\\: NTSC & PAL DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/271274/action/topic#271274
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Thanks for letting me (and the rest of the forum ) know (PM next time please!)

I was aware of several of those already, but thanks for the rest. You actually missed a few too

I don't have a definitve list of all the subs added I'm afraid. As I've explained before these are not subtitles in the traditional sense. They are 'burned in' and added one by one in FCP.

Has anyone spotted any further mistakes?

JD
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#271206
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//RETURNING TO JEDI\\: NTSC & PAL DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/271206/action/topic#271206
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I had one guy, a good guy, no, a GREAT guy look over 'RTJ' and he picked up on lots of things that needed correcting. I did intend to send it to about three more QC guys to clear up any other mistakes, but to be honest I just gave in to the pressure that was mounting (some self imposed) to get this thing released. I also had lots of things going on in my personal life that meant I lost a little enthusiasm towards the end. When you have had your head in a project for so long, it is so easy to overlook the problems.

Just remember, I am not a professional, I did this for fun. I hope that you still managed to enjoy some of it. If you have the time to watch it all in one go (I certainly didn't!), then I would be grateful if you could let me know exactly where these errors are as I will be tidying up a few things in the coming weeks. Mostly for my peace of mind, but another release is likely for those who feel they need it.

And now for something completely different - Toby's Blog Mention.

JD
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#270951
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Sluggo's Star Wars Trailer Contest *Next contest begins April 25th*
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/270951/action/topic#270951
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I agree Arnie, I got a little carried away with the length. The reason it ended up being so long was because of the difficulty in finding good music edit points. I think I ended up editing the music at five different points to create a flow and a build up to the end.

I decided quite early on not to show anything of Jabba or the Ewoks as these were suprises to me as a kid when watching the film for the first time. I also played a little bit with the dialogue to give a false impression or two. E.g. Han's apparent line to Lando - "You're throwing away a fortune, don't be a fool". As we know, Han actually says this to Jabba. But I intended to make use of it to give the feelings of animosity between the pair.

Glad you enjoyed it anway.

JD