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LexX said:

Hair to the Empire.

Fixed

J

I still have most of my stuff in attic

J

I saw Star Wars in '77 in Belfast, I was 9...I went with my mate Cavey and his dad, I remember getting a paper Chewie mask and 'The Official Souvenir Magazine' 

Empire.....I saw on holiday in Blackpool twice.....I remember all the toy shops & the new figures....I was too old to get them, but my step-brother got some, I remember Luke in fatigues.

I saw Jedi in the ABC Cinema in Belfast...Now Jury's Hotel....Darth Vader made appearances before the screenings.....I remember the sticker book collections.

J

....Also George was pushing boundaries....the first digitally projected movie....one of the first main characters to be CG.....one of the first directors shooting in digital,...etc

J

The CG modifications in the 97 SE editions were really to test the concept of adding CG characters to the SW films, once proven he announced the Prequels

J

A New Threat

Son of the Suns

J

Thanks guys, I'll give it another go...the stories I've seen just haven't grabbed me

J

I still haven't watched much of the CW cartoon apart from the beginning of the first series, what series/episode would be a good part to start watching from?

J

Tyrphanax said:

Here's a really cool figure of Obi-Wan.

The Maul one is okay, too, but the Obi-Wan one has so much cool detail from his past exploits that it's really awesome.

The Sir Alec one looks amazing 

J

Bingowings said:

Sigmund Freud says :

Nobviously I noticed but I haven't a clue what it all means.

....b...b..but thats Clement

J

Bingowings said:

But if we jumped forwards to 30 years later and the saw where the dominoes fell? That is what sort of happens between ROTS and ANH only a shorter time jump.

Just watched the end of ROTJ, can't see the dominoes being dropped

J

Well the job has been given to a 'proper' writer & I am excited to see what happens.

Lando may even be back

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/11/17/star-wars-rumour-lando-back-in-michael-arndts-sequel-plans/

J

Bingowings said:

The point I was making is the conflict was just for show

Hence the movie title.

J

Bingowings said:

The Naboo conflict wasn't about the Feds and the Gungans it was about the Force empowered Sith Lord displacing the sitting chancellor under the noses of the Force empowered Jedi Knights and that worked like a dream.

It involved the technologically superior Federation troops, weapons & tanks against primitive Gungans astride dinosaur things.....and catapults......sure if you want to go back and explain the cause of the conflict, the Sith Lord.

Thats like saying that every battle between the Empire & Rebels is the result of the Force because The Emperor & Vader give the orders.

J

Bingowings said:

Technically it is always using the Force.

Apart from when the Gungans stand over immobilised BattleDroids, with a little help from a kid clumsily firing missiles on board the Droid control ship.....not using the Force.....the primitive bringing down the Technically superior

Or the tow-cable bringing down the mighty AT-AT's, it happens often in the SW films....not always using the Force

J

Yes that is the repetitive theme that runs through the saga, the tiny primitive bringing down the technological might, though not always using the Force

J

The Han line reminds us that there is room for a non Force population in the SW universe, who get through life other ways.

The Star Wars story cannot be without the Force, Jedi's and lightsabers....but hopefully the new films will have normal grounded main characters like the OT

J

Bingo you keep making sweeping summaries of what Star Wars is....It's a Father/Son story...it's about the Force/Jedi/Sith.....

The PT just doesn't have the mix right, it's to heavily bogged down in politics and council meetings, it does have a lot of exciting scenes though but with the Jedi possessing super powers they can get out of every situation, the OT on the other hand is far more earthy, the majority of characters are not Force-y, you connect with them and thats why the OT is more respected.

When I was a kid Star Wars was OK to be a fan of, I remember in Science class when we were learning about magnetism one of the hardest guys in my year asking the teacher about why lasers bounced off the walls in the trash compactor scene, SW was not nerdy back then, it was cool.

The prequels have turned a lot of people off the franchise, it still makes money but they have made the films disposable.

The new films hopefully will have other avenues to explore, not just the fantastical powers of the force, hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid

J 

SpilkaBilka said:

 I'm sure I'm in a very small minority of SW fans on this, but I am honestly sick of the Jedi.  I have lightsaber fatigue.

No youre not alone with that, my favourite character was Han....his type of character (or any type of characters) was sorely missed in the PT

J

Now that time has passed, I think its well established that the Prequels weren't any good (apart from what Frink has done with them), the biggest let down in film history, they were full of inconsistencies between the Classic films, they have in fact contaminated the OT across that connective thread, a good business person or a good surgeon would advise to cut the source of the infection off....its the only way to be sure!

J

Hey I wouldn't mind if they shook things up and we got a kick-ass daughter or apprentice of Luke and she became the main star and it was her trilogy, honestly.....but connecting the weak PT to the ST just to give the girlies a turn?

J

That is a reboot, and very cleverly done, touches on all aspects of humanity.....but you are talking of resurrecting a poorly written character which we already know her back story (no surprises) just because you think Star Wars has had the Paternal theme....Now it's the Maternal theme.....instant audience turn-off.

J

He didn't go off yelling 'Yippee' either...ha

The Star Wars fan base is predominantly a male environment, that is the main audience....to take the feminine route would cut the chances of success for the new films.

J

Bingowings said:

He is obsessed with his father all the time.

So much so Owen has to tell him to stop going on about it before he even learns he was a Jedi.

He obviously is hanging on to any thread to find out anything about either of his parents, if Owen had said that Obi-wan had died about the time of Luke's mother, Luke would have had the same reaction.

J

Bingowings said:

Imrahil said:

Bingowings said:

Or better still make films based on the Foundation series and forget about Star Wars altogether.

Oh Disney didn't buy those rights.

So if it doesn't have Padme featured, it won't be Star Wars? Good to know.

Welcome to HYPER-BOWLS.

Of course you could make a film in the Star Wars universe without Padme or any reference to the PT, or the OT for that matter.

I'm merely pointing out that having a maternal trilogy (in the same sense that the OT is a paternal trilogy) is a possibility and one that need not be rubbish.

That characters that aren't good in the PT need not remain that way in a ST.

I also don't think that ignoring the continuity of the first three episodes of a series currently only twice that length is necessary or necessarily desirable as despite my dislike of the PT they are for some as much Star Wars films as the two I really like and the one I like bits of.

I find the resolution of ROTJ actually rather sexist as it stands.

Luke spends a whole trilogy obsessed with his father and mentions his mother in one line (the response to which is rendered bizarro by the PT) an SE would be an ideal way to redress the gender balance a little.

With Leia and Padme being the main representatives of the older generation and Luke and Han being the respectable secondary representatives.

The main weight of the story should be a new generation of characters whatever direction the writers go in but keeping a trail of breadcrumbs through the saga makes it a saga rather than a lose selection of special effects films.

If there is a sharp disconnect to appeal to one group it will be as divisive as what George did with the SE and the PT.

I would also like to see the Foundation books turned into films.

I hear what you are saying but this is a chance for fresh new ideas, the start of perhaps a new trilogy which could get Star Wars its credibility back.

The twist in the OT was that in the second act Luke discovers that the man who he had been told murdered his father was in fact his father, in the third act he became obsessed by his father, not the whole trilogy.

Unless the writers come up with some really fantastic twist involving Padme & Leia, your suggestion of connecting the PT to the ST by making them the 'Maternal Trilogy' does not sound like a successful way to make movies.

If Disney get this right (which I do think they will) they will shift into a higher gear and leave the Prequel stories a distant memory

J