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#679714
Topic
Last movie seen
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/679714/action/topic#679714
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Took my wee one to see Frozen a couple of weeks ago, we both loved it,....the last movie I took her to see was the Muppet Movie & she had been put off movies because of the bad guys in that.....it was a relief that Frozen didn't have a scary antagonist, so hopefully thats her over that stage 10/10

I watched The Lone Ranger tonight which I had heard recently was not as bad as the press had made out,....I was pleasantly surprised how good it was,....just a bit too long, but overall brilliant  7/10

J

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#679220
Topic
Ask the member of the Church of the Theologically Uncertain AKA Interrogate the Agnostic
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/679220/action/topic#679220
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I suppose I really only became atheist in the past couple of years, before then for about 10 years I was probably agnostic, still hanging on in fear,....just in case.

It was funny at that time I still always felt I was being watched by God, amazing how that was drummed into my brain from childhood.

Now everything I see on TV and on film that makes references to religion as a fact looks so dated (e.g. Star Trek the Wrath of Khan),....like they haven't caught up, it's like I had a moment of clariity and everything made sense

J

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#679191
Topic
Ask the member of the Latin Rite of the Roman Catholic Church AKA Interrogate the Catholic ;)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/679191/action/topic#679191
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RicOlie_2 said:

darth_ender said:

Well then, I'd only speak for myself, not for Catholics (which I am not), nor even Christians in general.  I believe that if the flood did take place, it was probably a local phenomenon.  But that's just me.

 That is also my stance. The word used in the book of Genesis can mean both "world" or "land," the latter implying that it extended from horizon to horizon and only looked like it covered the entire world from Noah's POV.

At Ur, there is a layer of flood deposit which shows that the city has been destroyed by flood at one time. Abraham came from Ur, so he may have brought the story of that flood with him when he left. Another theory is that since the Black Sea was once isolated, the flood may have been an event (probably caused by a big storm which flooded the area in a few days) which joined it to the Mediterranean. Towns have been discovered on the floor of the Black Sea, backing up this theory.

I do however believe it was a historical event of some kind, because the story is so widespread and so many similarities exist between the stories.

 Just been thinking about this, and remembered something,....what was the reason for the flood, why did God do it?

J

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#678976
Topic
General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/678976/action/topic#678976
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Retail model kits of The Millennium Falcon:

The MPC/Ertl Star Wars version with 3 landing Gear Bays 

The FineMolds  Empire/Jedi 5 landing gear version

I dont know the explanation why Han & Chewie decided to add another 2 landing gears to the underside of The Falcon, but the set builders who were under pressure to build a whole free-standing for filming in Hoth's Echo Base & on the Landing Platform of Bespin, knew they wouldn't get away with filming tricks they had used when filming Star Wars.

The Falcon docked in Mos Esley & on the Death Star was built against a wall for support:

The Half-Falcon also had support disguised as pipes or in the middle of barrels:

The filming models were then adjusted to match up with the new 5 landing gear set version

J

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#678751
Topic
Ask the member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints AKA Interrogate the Mormon
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/678751/action/topic#678751
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darth_ender said:

The man essentially said the church doesn't have priestesses because women are too busy with the important job of mother. His wife was the "home manager".

 That's his view.  The real reason is, well, to put it frinkly, because God said so :P

 Now I don't want you to think this is me on my high horse again,......but this type of answer was what I found on the LDS site & the reason why I annoyed you earlier,.....it's the 'don't ask' or 'just because' reasoning.

I have 2 kids, if my son asks me for £10 and I ask him what he wants it for and he answers,...'just' or 'because',..... those aren't proper reasons,.....I'll press him until I find out what it's for, then I'll make a decision whether I give it to him or not.

I hear parents giving reasons to kids why they aren't allowed to do things or have things with, 'because I said so!'....this isn't an answer, it's a don't bother me response....It's better to give a reason why you think that what they want is too expensive or what they want to do is too dangerous etc.

The explanaton why women can't be priests in the Catholic Church has an explanation, which you can reason with, you can question that reason because of the changes in society today,.....but the explanations in the LDS to coffee drinking, women priests etc as 'The Lord says so'......to me......personally......sound half baked.

I have known you and respectected you for a few years _ender, and I know you are a wise and intelligent guy, but what harm would it do if you question.

In the Protestant Church I remember that the Lord encourages people to question, not just to follow.

Again, I'm trying not to push too much, just for you to take a step backwards to look at it from my perspective, I know you love your faith

J

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#678630
Topic
Ask the member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints AKA Interrogate the Mormon
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/678630/action/topic#678630
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RicOlie_2 said:

Jaitea said:

 I would think that females would be perfectly suitable for the job then.....but I understand that it is not in your beliefs

J

 I appreciate that you are not being so condescending anymore. Overall, I just think that men are better suited for the role than women, but the way you see that depends on how you view the priesthood, I guess.

 Hey, hold on a second, I was never condescending!

The thing that pissed off _ender was that I described the reasoning on the LDS site as "Comedy Gold"

That was it......now had I found this reasoning about why women cannot be priests in the Catholic Church:

Question: Why Can't Women Be Priests?
Among the most vocal controversies in the Catholic Church in the late 20th century and early 21st has been the question of the ordination of women. As more Protestant denominations, including the Church of England, have begun ordaining women, the Catholic Church's teaching on the all-male priesthood has come under attack, with some claiming that the ordination of women is simply a matter of justice, and the lack of such ordination is proof that the Catholic Church does not value women. The Church's teaching on this matter, however, cannot change. Why can't women be priests?
Answer:In the Person of Christ the HeadAt the most basic level, the answer to the question is simple: The New Testament priesthood is the priesthood of Christ Himself. All men who, through the Sacrament of Holy Orders, have become priests (or bishops) participate in Christ's priesthood. And they participate in it in a very special way: They act in persona Christi Capitis, in the person of Christ, the Head of His Body, the Church.Christ Was a Man

Christ, of course, was a man; but some who argue for the ordination of women insist that His sex is irrelevant, that a woman can act in the person of Christ as well as a man can. This is a misunderstanding of Catholic teaching on the differences between men and women, which the Church insists are irreducible; men and women, by their natures, are suited to different, yet complementary, roles and functions.

The Tradition Established by Christ Himself

Yet even if we disregard the differences between the sexes, as many advocates of women's ordination do, we have to face the fact that the ordination of men is an unbroken tradition that goes back not only to the Apostles but to Christ Himself. As the Catechism of the Catholic Church (para. 1577) states:

"Only a baptized man (vir) validly receives sacred ordination." The Lord Jesus chose men (viri) to form the college of the twelve apostles, and the apostles did the same when they chose collaborators to succeed them in their ministry. The college of bishops, with whom the priests are united in the priesthood, makes the college of the twelve an ever-present and ever-active reality until Christ's return. The Church recognizes herself to be bound by this choice made by the Lord himself. For this reason the ordination of women is not possible.
Priesthood Not a Function But an Indelible Spiritual Character

Still, the argument continues, some traditions are made to be broken. But again, that misunderstands the nature of the priesthood. Ordination does not simply give a man permission to perform the functions of a priest; it imparts to him an indelible (permanent) spiritual character thatmakes him a priest, and since Christ and His Apostles chose only men to be priests, only men can validly become priests.

The Impossibility of Women's Ordination

In other words, it's not simply that the Catholic Church does not allow women to be ordained. If a validly ordained bishop were to perform the rite of the Sacrament of Holy Orders exactly, but the person supposedly being ordained were a woman rather than a man, the woman would no more be a priest at the end of the rite than she was before it began. The bishop's action in attempting the ordination of a woman would be both illicit (against the laws and regulations of the Church) and invalid (ineffective, and hence null and void).

The movement for women's ordination in the Catholic Church, therefore, will never get anywhere. Other Christian denominations, to justify ordaining women, have had to change their understanding of the nature of the priesthood from one which conveys an indelible spiritual character on the man who is ordained to one in which the priesthood is treated as a mere function. But to abandon the 2,000-year-old understanding of the nature of the priesthood would be a doctrinal change. The Catholic Church could not do so and remain the Catholic Church.

http://catholicism.about.com/od/beliefsteachings/f/Women_Priests.htm

......Now I can understand.....and without the comedy effect

J

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#678559
Topic
Ask the member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints AKA Interrogate the Mormon
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/678559/action/topic#678559
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TV's Frink said:

Jaitea said:

TV's Frink said:

I'm sorry but I can't buy any worldview that insists there are defined roles for men and women and the two shan't mix.

Except for football.  Girls can't play it. ;-) 

 Liverpool Ladies FC seam to be doing VERY well 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25403737

J

 WRONG FOOTBALL!!!

 Sorry Frink, you meant American Football

J

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#678542
Topic
Ask the member of the Latin Rite of the Roman Catholic Church AKA Interrogate the Catholic ;)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/678542/action/topic#678542
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HotRod said:

What about the Geeza and the boat? Do you really believe the old boy made a big boat, put all the animals in two by two, then set sail when God flooded the Earth? Wasn't that mass murder?

I'll watch the film when it comes out to form my unbiased opinion

 Yeh, thats a confusing one, there were 8 people on the Ark, Noah & his wife, his 3 sons & their wives, how does the world get populated by so many race varieties in such a short period of time, also there are roughly 8 million species of animal in the world (granted there are sea & air animals in that figure) so theres that to consider

J

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#678535
Topic
Ask the member of the Latin Rite of the Roman Catholic Church AKA Interrogate the Catholic ;)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/678535/action/topic#678535
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darth_ender said:

Jaitea said:

darth_ender said:

Jaitea, you're usually not so aggressively condescending.  Obviously you don't believe what's attributed to God in the Bible.  But there are people who do.  Congratulations.  We have two different opinions.  You can neither prove nor disprove either one.

 Na, but if you were to look at it from my POV you'd see that there's always an excuse or an exception allowed, when I make an example of it happening, I'm condescending.

J

 It's not just this most recent point, it's been several.  And it's not just your point, it's your manner.  This most recent point was put more delicately than others, but after never seeing you here in Off Topic, suddenly we're flooded with Jaitea's great wisdom as he sits upon his high horse, imparting that wisdom and laughing at the foolish believers lying prostrate before their god of choice.  Frankly, if that is your style, there is no way anyone could have a reasonable discussion with you on the topic.

 Sorry you feel that way, your knowledge in your subject seems far superior than mine.

Your mental image of me laughing is far from the truth.

....and as far as my contribution to these threads I also feel there is little hope of having a reasonable discussion.

J

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#678527
Topic
Ask the member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints AKA Interrogate the Mormon
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/678527/action/topic#678527
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I'm sorry to let you down _ender, I don't proclaim to have a superior intellect, I just see things differently than you do, the comments on the link are very similar to the Harry Enfield sketch's attitude.

This attitude just seams locked in a time capsule, If you see that thats the way things should be in your religion and don't see that it looks a bit odd from the outside then I'm sorry that I've offended you.

I too regard you differently, it is strange how perception can change

J