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Jaiman Tuckuh

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Post
#375094
Topic
*** The Official DigitalFreakNYC Release Thread*** (SW, Indy + Others!)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/375094/action/topic#375094
Time
29-Aug-2009 9:31 AM
digitalfreaknyc said:

So now it's off to data recovery.  I got a quote of $590 for everything...if I decide to go with it. :(  This was the explanation of what they think happened:

Your hard drive most likely has firmware corruption. Typically the drive spins up fine, doesn't click but never show up in the system or shows up with 0 capacity. It's a very common problem with Seagate's new 7200.11 family - we receive several requests a week with this issue. Data recovery in such case requires use of specialized equipment and experience to access firmware on the platters and repair corrupted modules.

 

 Condolances, and best of luck.

 

I'm with that Paypal idea.

 

I hope that family doesn't include any of my models. I haven't yet bought enough drives to back up all my drives. I've researched how to deal with a lot of drive issues (a drive I couldn't afford to fix), but the platter's firmware is definatelly not DIY.

    Post
    #375091
    Topic
    *** The Official DigitalFreakNYC Release Thread*** (SW, Indy + Others!)
    Link
    https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/375091/action/topic#375091
    Time
    29-Aug-2009 8:24 AM — Edited 29-Aug-2009 9:19 AM
    vbangle said:
    digitalfreaknyc said:
    vbangle said:

    The firmware is NOT on the platters. Doesn't sound like they know what they're doing...maybe get someone else.

     

    Yes it is.  Check out any thread about the Seagate 500gb drives.  I can give you the version # when I get home.  All of the drives from that line are crapping out.  :(  Here's a link with info: http://forums.slizone.com/lofiversion/index.php?t33993.html

     

    Anyway...it was sent off.  $600 if they can fix it.  Waiting to hear back.  It arrived there yesterday.

    LMAO  NO NO NO The FIRMWARE is on a IC CHIP on the PCB board inside the drive.....NOT on the platters. computers 101 folks.

     

    LOL! A person would think so, huh?

     

    What is the Firmware Area?

     

    "Firmware Area (or System Area) is a reserved space dedicated to hard drive's own needs, such as: storing SMART logs, defect reallocation tables, program code (overlays) and so on. "

    "Flash EEPROM chip contains only a little part of the Firmware; its primary role is to spin up the spindle and unpark heads so that the drive can read the rest of the firmware from surface. "

     

    Hard drives seem to be designed to make repair as difficult as possible. The platter's portion of the firmware takes expensive equipment to access. That epuipment had to be designed by reverse-engineering data that manufacturers wouldn't provide. And what's often stored in EEPROM? - why the defect table that has the manufacturer's chunk of the bad-sector->spare-sector remapping info that's unique to the drive - so - you can swap a bad circuit board, with an identical drive, but a lot of your data will be corrupt, because the drive is looking for many of the wrong sectors - so you have to transplant the EEPROM first (assuming your EEPROM didn't burn out). (And that means, of course, that the firmware area, on the platters, could become corrupt, even unreadable, without the EEPROM's remapping info). Of course, model numbers aren't enough to tell you what's an identical circuit board, because different plants crank out different boards for each model. (And the off topic rant could go on for quite some time).

     

      Post
      #372813
      Topic
      Alien Appendix #4: The ALIENS Archive (Released)
      Link
      https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/372813/action/topic#372813
      Time
      9-Aug-2009 9:58 AM

      It's posting to the newsgroups - alt.binaries.dvd & alt.binaries.dvd.midnightmovies

      Nzbs crossposted to alt.binaries.nzb. Yes - 2 nzbs. Yeah, I know,  it was late, quit laughing. Com'on, it ain't that funny. :-) Obviously, the first one will only work with the files which have the mispelled (sp) subject line. The second is good for the rest. Might be simpler to go to binsearch.info.

      The first par hasn't propagated to Easynews, for some reason. The rest are intact so far. I'm keeping an eyebrow raised at them.

       

      I haven't got very far, yet, ([as] Saturday anime), but Alien Wars looks a blast. :-D

        Post
        #372599
        Topic
        Alien Appendix #4: The ALIENS Archive (Released)
        Link
        https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/372599/action/topic#372599
        Time
        7-Aug-2009 7:03 AM

        What, really? Finished? Holy jumpin crickets!

          Post
          #372456
          Topic
          Puggo GRANDE - 16mm restoration (Released)
          Link
          https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/372456/action/topic#372456
          Time
          6-Aug-2009 7:22 AM — Edited 6-Aug-2009 11:28 AM

          I tend to agree. SD is plenty, for this'n.

           

          Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
          SilverWook said:

          I'll take all those defects any day of the week! This is going to be like sitting back in a theater circa 1978!

          I saw Singin' in the Rain on the big screen last week. Nobody was griping about the dodgy condition of the print, they were simply enjoying the movie.

          Well, there's dodgy, and then there's dodgy.  I doubt that anyone in 1978 saw Star Wars THIS dodgy!

           

          Well, not SW. I've seen dodgy-er, though. I'm a baby-boomer, and schools used ye olde (and I mean old) film back in the day. And then there was the fan club and their rental films, 8mm home movies... sometimes you'd even see the curvature problem. Heck TV stations showed some pretty crusty films, in the daytime, probably into the 70's or 80's. I remember furballs, and dancing hairs, every so often, for as long as they used film libraries. And they'd burn down a master by the time they made copies for every little venue & tv station.

           

          I didn't realize I missed those little features, of vintage film stock, until I saw one of your early test clips. Besides, you tune that stuff out after a bit. I hope you include the leader - with the flashing single frames & countdown, and everything.

           

          Looking forward to it, mon.

            Post
            #372440
            Topic
            RELEASED: "Star Trek: The Motion Picture (Special Longer Version)"
            Link
            https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/372440/action/topic#372440
            Time
            6-Aug-2009 3:56 AM
            FanFiltration said:

            The updated and corrected version of this project will be released soon. As a donation to the project, a fellow fan from this forum has sent in some very rare original promotion footage.  It's a rare production featurette that is being cleaned up to the best of my abilities.  I'm sure every fan of this film will appreciate having this extra in their collection.

            I keep thinking this is just about finished. Bet you keep thinking the same thing. :-)

            But things like that make it worth a little more waiting. 

              Post
              #372436
              Topic
              Hard drive back up question.
              Link
              https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/372436/action/topic#372436
              Time
              6-Aug-2009 2:29 AM — Edited 6-Aug-2009 2:43 AM

              Acronis True Image will. I've used it for a while. Backs up the OS while it's running. It'll image the files, or sector-by-sector if you want. Or any of the usual options.

               

              Most reasonably modern Seagate drives will let you run a (rebranded) free download, of it, from Seagate's site. (Just a straight download, no email-tag). Internal or external drives. Their version checks for one of the right drives, before it'll let you back up. Saves a few bucks. (I lost track of the link to the page that lists the drive families it works for).

              Seagate Disc Wizard

               

              I've used it to clone a backup onto a larger drive. And to restore a newer backup, of that drive - after a clot of 6 M$ security updates hosed XP.

                Post
                #346576
                Topic
                Star Wars 5.1 Audio
                Link
                https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/346576/action/topic#346576
                Time
                24-Feb-2009 4:19 AM — Edited 24-Feb-2009 11:56 AM

                 

                mrbenja0618 said:

                I've heard from so many that this seems to be impossible... I'm hoping someone has found success...And if so, PLEASE SHOW ME STEP BY STEP! Thanks.

                 

                 

                It's not impossible. But, in most cases, it'll be a time consuming manual method. (I've watched a fanedit, which utilized that method on an entire movie - worked magnificently. Haven't done it myself).

                (What is impossible - reliably removing speech, while keeping all of the music and sound effects).

                 

                But first, a quick lecture. :-)

                Dude... I've been in your shoes, and I hate it when no one answers. But... (1) That happens a lot on the ol' web. (2) You're asking an awful lot - wrting a step-by-step can be a ton of work, especially since it'll only be for one group of software. (3) You didn't mention whether you're PC, Mac, or Linux. (4) A lot of this has been covered, here, before - you could find a fair amont of info by searching - for instance: "dialog" (5) It seems unfair, but, on the net, it's more rude to keep bumping a question, than it is for others to ignore it. (6) The forum has a rule against replying to your own post - you're supposed to edit the original post (7) It's unnessecary to bump, in this particular sub-forum, because it isn't very busy - it'd be a long time before it scrolls off the first page (8) Your title didn't have your question in it. (You can change the title, by editing the first post - please do, so that others might actually see this discussion).

                 

                Now that the lecture is over with. ;-) I'll guess that you're new here, and if that's the case, welcome. :-D

                 

                 

                Note: I'm in a hurry, so it'll be kinda sloppy, and basic. But this should be enough to get you going (everything else is searchable, here, or on the web at large).

                 

                Key point: Check the center channel. Dialog is typically concentrated there. (Some older movie mixes don't follow that rule, though). Typically, the other channels will only have a little reverb, of the dialog. (A really good edit would use various ambience plugins, for audio editors, to restore the dialog's reverb, during the remix).

                 

                How-to stuff:

                First you want to rip the 5.1 into discreet wav files.

                For that part, look upward, a few threads, to this sticky:

                "ADigitalMan's Guide to MPEG2/AC3 Editing"

                (Assuming you're on a PC. Otherwise, you'll have to find out how to do that with other software).

                Almost everything in that guide is freeware.

                 

                If you're lucky...

                ...the center channel will only have dialog (without music or sound effects).

                 

                If you're unlucky (in most cases):

                In most movies, the music and sound effects spread into the center channel.

                 

                So you clip out the sounds, between words.

                That aforementioned faneditor said that the music is almost always drowned out during the words. (And he was working with 2.0 - having the 5.1's center channel should make it much more effective).

                He once had a site, with an explanation. But it doesn't appear to exist anymore. He used movie editing software, but I suspect you could do it with audio editors. (Womble probably isn't suitable).

                 

                Tip: If you ever have the ambition to work with a moive that only has a 2.0 soundtrack, ADigitalMan's guide also gives info on how to turn 2.0 into 5.1.

                 

                If you're really unlucky:

                Some movie's mixes are a mess, as I've noted above.

                 

                But you can try to get a good result, from a 2.0, by playing with the PowerDVD module's options.

                 

                If you can't get the dialog concentrated into one channel, then get the best 2.0 you can find, and isolate the words on both channels.

                 

                 

                Tip: Once you have a clean dialog track, you can put in your own music and sound effects. The guide, that I referred you to, will give you some good info for that part.

                  Post
                  #346353
                  Topic
                  The Evil Dead Treasures Collection (Released)
                  Link
                  https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/346353/action/topic#346353
                  Time
                  22-Feb-2009 8:52 AM — Edited 22-Feb-2009 9:29 AM
                  spookymizu said:Admittedly, I had some trouble with the newsgroup upload of EDTC, but that is because I'm stuck with Easynews...so that's nobody else's fault. I'm actually redownloading it right now from Easynews. I'm hoping to have better luck this time OR have somebody toss me two or three of the rar files. We'll see.

                  Spooky Mizu

                   

                  I'm uploading extra pars, for EDTC, now. They will work together with Moth3r's, so there will be enough for you to recover the rars. (Nobody reposts rar files, anymore, because different servers might be missing different rars).


                  It may take some hours for them to show up on Easynews's web interface, but the first ones are showing up on Easynews's NNTP server, now.

                   

                  If you are getting them by NNTP, with a downloader that saves partial files, then you shouldn't need my rars. As Moth3r surmised, I only needed a few more blocks to fix the complete rars that showed up on the web-interface. (One of the complete rars showed up damaged, there, which shouldn't happen. Maybe it was because they didn't have enough pars for AutoPar to fix the set).

                   

                   

                  dark_jedi said:

                  man I upload to the newsgroups and people complain it is to hard,so I upload a torrent,and now this is to hard....I just can't win

                   

                  Lol! Yeah, unfamiliar downloading methods tend to intimidate people, at first. We appreciate your work, dude. I've downloaded a bunch of your posts and torrents.

                   

                  Moth3r said:

                  I can put disc 1 of the Evil Dead II DVD Companion on the newsgroups if there's any interest. What is the official volume label? (The torrent is a collection of DVD files rather than a disc image.)

                   

                  (Waving raised hand) Me, me! I'm interested.

                   

                  (I'll take a newsgroup post, over a torrent, any day).

                    Post
                    #335735
                    Topic
                    Waterworld ABC Cut? A ton of info - see McFly's posts for details (Released)
                    Link
                    https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/335735/action/topic#335735
                    Time
                    8-Nov-2008 8:48 AM

                    Just some violence that was deemed "too violent" for the tv version. Like when Ulysses stabbed that guy in the foot, so he could fight his way loose.

                     

                    So McFly's cut is back to edit status, eh? Kewl.

                      Post
                      #333049
                      Topic
                      [35mm] - _trailers_and_others_return_of_the_jedi_
                      Link
                      https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/333049/action/topic#333049
                      Time
                      12-Oct-2008 1:22 PM

                      Fullscreen & letterboxed... tv promo? That could be kinda rare. Yah, I'm not up on my SW trailer lore, either.

                       

                      negative1 said:

                      well, the last place i checked (which should have been the first), was the

                      hp site, and sure enough when i just installed the drivers, instead of

                      their stupid software it finally worked..

                      Seriously, though, how often does the manufacturer's site actually have the answer. No wonder we fall out of the habit of looking there. :)

                       

                        Post
                        #333046
                        Topic
                        Making our own 35mm preservation--my crazy proposal
                        Link
                        https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/333046/action/topic#333046
                        Time
                        12-Oct-2008 1:04 PM — Edited 12-Oct-2008 1:06 PM

                        I love seeing these examples of the various reels's quality. I see, in the other thread, that you got your scanner issues sorted out. So keep 'em coming! Umm... I mean please. :)

                          Post
                          #333037
                          Topic
                          Puggo GRANDE - 16mm restoration (Released)
                          Link
                          https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/333037/action/topic#333037
                          Time
                          12-Oct-2008 10:02 AM — Edited 14-Oct-2008 2:05 PM

                          Uncropped would also make the grain less prominant, not to mention the dings in the emulsion side, and the vertical scratches on both sides. Cleaning will help some, too.

                           

                          The Tatooine scenes seem to have a lot of splotchyness, even dark streaks in places. Is that from dirty film, or is it the print? (Dirty negative?) Those scenes also leave me with a greater impression of grain, for some reason.

                           

                          Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

                           

                          And, although the color spread is not bad, getting a decent white balance is proving to be a challenge because the film has slightly faded in various ways depending on the brightness and hue of the scene.

                           

                          That's kinda hard for me to wrap my head around. I've read it in reference to multiscanning for hdr, too. I guess it has to do with the response curves of CCDs.

                           

                          Shows up in the pesky flesh tones, on the Tantive IV. (Which seem to give everyone problems).

                           

                          I keep reading that the workprinters "save to DV". Is that DV codec? Does it leave room for playing with curves in software? (I had some luck matching color, by adjusting separately, according to brightness level (shadow/medium/highlight), even from dvd-sourced mpeg compression).

                           

                          All in all, a pretty solid transfer!

                           

                          I can pick at the flaws from the film's quality, and the limits of CCDs, but that workprinter (and it's operator) do a heck of a job. And it looks nicer in motion, than the stills.

                           

                          I'm anxious to see the final capture!

                            Post
                            #331057
                            Topic
                            Info: Is anyone bidding on---? (eBay preserve-ables)
                            Link
                            https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/331057/action/topic#331057
                            Time
                            21-Sep-2008 8:32 AM

                            Nope, wasn't me. :-\

                              Post
                              #330879
                              Topic
                              Info: Is anyone bidding on---? (eBay preserve-ables)
                              Link
                              https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/330879/action/topic#330879
                              Time
                              19-Sep-2008 4:55 PM — Edited 30-Jun-2020 12:38 PM

                              It’s getting more practical to preserve trailers, promo films, films of commercials, and slides.

                              We don’t want to bid against each other.

                              How about this one:

                              1977 TV promo clip, for SW. Dunno if it’s 16mm or 35mm. From the description it’s just a clip from the movie. Probably nothing to identify it as one of those clips used by reviewers and promo shows.

                              Somebody’s put a bid down, anyone from around here?

                              And then there’s various & sundry auctions for SW press kits, with promo slides that’d be easy to scan. (B&W prints have always been scannable, but the quality is limited to 256 shades of gray). All, or a lot of those, are probably on various web sites, but seldom(?) at very high rez.

                                Post
                                #329533
                                Topic
                                Making our own 35mm preservation--my crazy proposal
                                Link
                                https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/329533/action/topic#329533
                                Time
                                8-Sep-2008 9:40 AM — Edited 8-Sep-2008 10:13 AM

                                Ya know... the movie studios seem to be a lot less vindictive and vengeful than the music studios. Perhaps movie studios don't feel as threatened, because movies take a lot more time to download. HD, in particular, and there's the storage & playback issues. Perhaps also, because you can rent movies, and tv broadcasters play everything, while radio typically only plays certain cuts of music... Also, people buy as much music as they can afford. But they buy as many dvds as they have space for...

                                 

                                Also, everybody has a several dozen new (and older) movies/shows, per year, to think about choosing. But "fanatics" can be counted on to buy their "cult films". (And, they will never admit, the general population is more likely to choose a "cult film/show", per-purchase-decision, than one of the yearly flood of yeah-that's-nice films). So they have to strategize for how they exploit, errr, abuse, err, relate to the "fringe" who generate those insane sales figures on certain titles. (Deleted a lot more rambling).

                                 

                                Most HD distributors try to stay fairly anonymous... Kinda hard to pin down the line for paranoia. Especially with the special circumstances of Lucas*. Limited distribution, of the HD, might be a good idea. Especially if it's ready before he releases his non-OUT Blu-Rays.

                                 

                                Brings up another subject, though...

                                 

                                One-upmanship is a game of increments.

                                 

                                Lucas defeated the community's laserdisc rips's video with the crappiest source in his vaults. And one can easily imagine that he howled with laughter, as he pulled it out of the vault. Then, perhaps to to rub it in, he gave it an even-worse-mastering than his other OT DVDs (not that his PT dvds were mastered all that well).

                                 

                                Our answer was going to be the X0 (less detail, but wayyy better PQ)... I'm sure he, and people of his, read these forums. And, if this is oneupmanship, they may've made plans.

                                 

                                This transfer could make an SD DVD release that would beat the snot out of the GOUT, SE, Super-SE, ultra duper hyper... A general release of that wouldn't be pushing too far into strange waters...

                                 

                                Of couse we couldn't talk specifics, in the forums, about hey-it's-being-distributed-this-way-now, when it's happening, but still. (Some of the rules may not seem intuitively obvious, but there is a logic to them).

                                 

                                So, anyway, supposing, there's an SD version, swimming around freely... and they know that, somewhere, out there, lurks an HD version (that would be easy for them to one-up, of course). Will it surface? When? Should they transfer a 16mm? A 35mm print? An interneg? A sep neg? A techicolor? Should they pay for the transfer now? Heheh, let 'em sweat... :-}

                                  Post
                                  #329408
                                  Topic
                                  Info: [<em>self deleted</em>]
                                  Link
                                  https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/329408/action/topic#329408
                                  Time
                                  7-Sep-2008 12:30 PM — Edited 7-Sep-2008 12:46 PM

                                  WooHoo! That's encouraging news on the transfer part.

                                   

                                  I don't know which thread he made the color-correction offer in, but he offered to take on a humongous task. There's a lot to mastering the subject (which he already did), and every shot has to be done individually.

                                   

                                  We're happy to see these gargantuan pictures with their nice detail. Even the uncorrected ones soothe my heart.

                                   

                                  There's a reason that the WG, Gout, and uncorrected seem too muddy - they had no correction at all. Human eyes respond to light differently than film, the various electronic imaging methods, and displays. (And they all respond differently from each other). Scanners can't begin to correct for themselves, the corrections need to be done "in post". (Well, some scanners can increase or decrease the amount of overall light, some can even change the amount of light per color channel, other than that, though...).

                                   

                                  I still suck at it, myself. But if you're still interested in correcting your own scans, have you looked at this, and the other articles? X0 - setting black and white points .

                                   

                                  I think most serious photo applications, like Photoshop, have a monitor calibration thingy, or at least a monitor profile setting dealy. You also need to do your tv(s), and check your work there (X0 has an article on that, too).

                                   

                                  Jpeg (and mpeg) can't be remastered worth a damn. You either have to work with uncompressed tiff, or what they call "raw" files, which are an uncompressed dump of info, that many scanners can do). 16-bit-per-channel files (48-bit color), or as good as the scanner can do. Unfortunately Those files are pretty large, which is another reason not to scan the whole film, yourself, if you can help it. (Film houses use some other file formats, that I haven't looked into, like the 10-bit-per-channel Cineon). (Your tiff and raw will be 16-bit-per, even if your scanner can only do 9-bit or 10-bit, in which case, the extra bulk would be waste, but they'll still work better than 8-bit).

                                    Post
                                    #328990
                                    Topic
                                    Info: [<em>self deleted</em>]
                                    Link
                                    https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/328990/action/topic#328990
                                    Time
                                    3-Sep-2008 11:39 PM

                                    Yes, indeedy. That's looking a lot better.

                                    I can see stray hairs. :-D

                                    Is that makeup on her collar?

                                     

                                     

                                    Doesn't seem to be perfect focus, but that's a whole bunch of improvement. Might be at the limit of the scanner. Or they might've done something to soften the focus on Leia, so another subject might be better.

                                     

                                    Curious... the crane shot of the XWing appeared to have some fierce sensor noise, in the dark areas, but I don't see any in the rest.

                                     

                                    Did you use the dust removal software on this shot? Or any filtering? I'd like to see one without that stuff, and without resizing, now that you've got better focus. Preferably that X-Wing shot I mentioned. It's easier to judge, with hard-edged technology, that has flat areas and stuff.

                                      Post
                                      #328169
                                      Topic
                                      Info Wanted: Phantasm 2 on Monsters HD in Sept (Preservation anyone?)
                                      Link
                                      https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/328169/action/topic#328169
                                      Time
                                      28-Aug-2008 12:28 AM — Edited 30-Aug-2008 12:09 AM

                                      I can directly capture the original digital signal of channels/shows that aren't specifically encrypted to prevent capture (see my sig). But our Comcast doesn't carry Monsters. It might turn up on Universal HD, but I have corruption problems, with that channel, and they seem to only show things once. It's old, so it might hit Encore, but our Comcast only carries HD, from Encore, on OnDemand, which is a very, very iffy channel for capture. (I might need to call the tech out here).

                                       

                                      I'll search Comcast's schedule, and the newsgroups, though.

                                       

                                      If I'm not mistaken, Monsters HD has a fondness for cropping everything to 16:9, so it might not be that desirable, anyway.

                                       

                                      Edit : Hmmm, thought I had the direct capture link in my sig. Fixed.

                                        Post
                                        #327259
                                        Topic
                                        Trailers with deleted scenes?
                                        Link
                                        https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/327259/action/topic#327259
                                        Time
                                        19-Aug-2008 3:47 AM — Edited 19-Aug-2008 4:18 AM

                                        So... who-all can name trailers which have deleted scenes in them?

                                         

                                        There seem to be a lot of trailers floating around. Apparently, the studios don't try to keep track of them as a rule. Of course they're still a limited resource. Clip dealers cut up "flat" trailers. Collectors gather up "scope" and flat trailers, for their hoards...

                                         

                                        A lot of trailers do end up on dvd's. (And some trailer versions don't). But they're typically letterboxed, and often a less-than-stellar transfer (at least on SD sets). If it were possible to scan a trailer (and there are many bumps on that poorly-blazed trail), a person could end up with much higher quality than anything on an SD dvd.

                                         

                                        To start it off. A Generations trailer (on the special edition set) has a scene-lett of Kirk saying, to Harriman "Let's cheat death together."

                                         

                                        Has anyone heard of a "longer trailer" for Star Trek VI?

                                          Post
                                          #325249
                                          Topic
                                          Waterworld ABC Cut? A ton of info - see McFly's posts for details (Released)
                                          Link
                                          https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/325249/action/topic#325249
                                          Time
                                          29-Jul-2008 4:36 AM
                                          Jabbitt said:

                                          I know it's only just started, but I'm not a fan of the bittorent thing. Can someone post to a newsgroup please? :-)

                                           

                                          I'll post it to the newsgroups, after I get a copy.

                                            Post
                                            #324068
                                            Topic
                                            Laserdisc capturing - what is to be considered?
                                            Link
                                            https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/324068/action/topic#324068
                                            Time
                                            16-Jul-2008 11:14 AM

                                            Think of a "comb filter" as something that, basically, combs through the higher frequencies, separating them out.

                                             

                                            Ya see...

                                             

                                            The luminance (B&W) signal clumps up at higher frequencies, leaving lots of gaps. So, when they invented color tv, they forced the color signal to clump up into frequencies that would fit in those gaps. It didn't work very well, until the integrated-circuit age brought us comb filters.

                                             

                                            TV and Video Comb Filters .

                                              Post
                                              #323972
                                              Topic
                                              Verbatim Dual-Layer DVD's
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                                              https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/323972/action/topic#323972
                                              Time
                                              15-Jul-2008 10:10 AM

                                              Verbatim runs their own plants, so the country doesn't matter much. (It does with most brands).

                                               

                                              If I recall, though, Verb quality vs. country, has been debated by people who burn ridiculous numbers of dvds.

                                              And, of course, there's always variability by batch. (Which is hard to accept when you're paying for dual-layer).

                                               

                                              I like Rima.com, for ordering. But then they're almost local, to me, so ground gets here in a couple of days. (Meaning I haven't tried others). They've got a good rep, too.

                                               

                                              Taiwanese manufacturers make 'em cheap. They haven't developed long-lasting dyes.

                                              There's at least one manufacturer that licences a Taiwanese manufacturer to use a good dye, but I don't recall the name anymore (one of the good-rep ones), so the problem doesn't apply to that brand.

                                                Post
                                                #322760
                                                Topic
                                                Vdub and DVD Flickering
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                                                https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/322760/action/topic#322760
                                                Time
                                                2-Jul-2008 5:42 PM — Edited 2-Jul-2008 6:46 PM

                                                 

                                                Marshallator said:

                                                Here is a selection of different clips, about four seconds each. I'll post some longer ones later if you like.



                                                Yeah, longer clips would help me figure out if we're seeing the same thing.

                                                 

                                                Your explanation makes a lot of sense Jaiman, I think your probably right. Though any idea as to why deinterlacing has an affect on that?

                                                 

                                                I could guess, sortof.... I could be laughably wrong. :)

                                                But first are you deinterlacing to 24p or 30p? I hope it's 30.

                                                I assume you still see some stairstepping on the edges of the vertical, but no flicker?

                                                VDub's Deinterlace filter on "blend fields"?


                                                Well, the big reason folks use a deinterlacer (if going from 30 to 30) is to kill flicker. So it might be that your problem is similar to what triggers a smart deinterlacer. It might resemble the mismatched fields, that they're looking for.


                                                Or it might be that it's blending all the pairs of odd & even lines together. (That's the most common solution for flickering, only less destructive).

                                                If it's being done to the source's lines, then I suspect there'd be no loss of detail. The resizing algorithm would just see softer horizontal lines to start from. OTOH, if it's doing that to the NTSC-sized side, then you're losing half the horizontal detail.

                                                 

                                                So I guess I need to dive into some research on stair stepping.



                                                And I believe it might be called "jaggies", too. But that's not usually in relation to flickering.


                                                I've searched. I didn't find much. Most are aimed at flickering in titles (mainly titles in dvd menus).


                                                1) Gaussian blur - you blend out some of the detail in the HD source, before you resize. That'd take some experimenting to find the right radius.

                                                 

                                                2) Vertical filtering. (Broadcasters actually do this for 1080i). One guy suggests:
                                                "Try a MOTION BLUR filter, with Angle = 90° and Distance = 1...4 pixels (depending on the strength of Twitter correction)."

                                                 

                                                3) Resizing from a large format to a small one.

                                                You're already doing that, though. :)


                                                You can also drop the contrast, but it looks, to me, that your contrast and gamma are great, now, for the overall picture. (I'm not as eagle-eyed as some people, though). The contrast trick is aimed at titles, anyway.


                                                I was hoping to find some sort of intellegent filter, that would only operate on the flickering...


                                                But you might be on that path, with deinterlace!

                                                There are smart deinterlacers that detect flickering, and only work on the lines that need it. Also they "interpolate", instead of simply "blend". Bet you could find some as VirtualDub plugin filters. If you have trouble searching them up, I could take a crack at it.

                                                I could be wrong about what interpolation is, it might make a mess. Or there might be settings that'll do what you need. And, as far as I know, it might, possibly, take some tweaking to get it to trigger on your problem. It'd sure be worth a try, anyway. (Settings often tend to be poorly documented, though).

                                                 

                                                I suspect you'd be blazing a new trail, so there could be some tedious experimenting involved.

                                                 

                                                In some ways this makes me sad, because the sharpening in Vdub was allowing me to retain about 90%-95% of the quality of the HD image. Regardless, its a relief to have a better idea of what I'm looking at, a thousand thanks to you! Because it is related to the sharpening on downconversion, would it help anything if I sharpen before downconvert or after downconvert ? I guess not, but can't blame me for hoping :)



                                                Well, SD has a lot of limitations, and compromises. And, NTSC has a lousy picture, compared to PAL.


                                                It's really something, to see how much you were able to pack into such a weak format, though.

                                                Seems to be a tradeoff, though. Moth3r pointed out that even the encoders don't seem to be totally ready for the detail (although the effects seem minor, at least to my non-eagle eyes).

                                                  Post
                                                  #322570
                                                  Topic
                                                  Waterworld ABC Cut? A ton of info - see McFly's posts for details (Released)
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                                                  https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/322570/action/topic#322570
                                                  Time
                                                  1-Jul-2008 8:29 AM — Edited 1-Jul-2008 4:19 PM

                                                  Welcome to the forum, gammler!

                                                   

                                                  It'll be released soon. I expect McFly will torrent it, or someone will. I'll help seed. Then I'll post it to the newsgroups. Then it'll probably end up on Rapidshare. And it will be traded around. Might get PIF'd. So you'll probably be able to get it one of those ways.

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