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#220090
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Creepy Crap
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/220090/action/topic#220090
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In class today a group gave a presentation on Media coverage or something. I wasn't paying attention really. But they did show a clip of "how the government only want's you to see what they want you to see."

Click for Conspiracy

I don't know how much I buy into it. I mean, I've been to the Pentagon 3 times, I've seen the 5 rings. Besides there was a fourth plane missing. 2 - WTC, 1 - field in Pennsylvania, and 1 - Pentagon. Missiles? I donno. But it's still a pretty bitchin presentation. Very well put together.

And no, it's not a screamer. That was the first thing I thought of when I watched it.
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#218402
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Does George even read his own stuff?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218402/action/topic#218402
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She may have been trained in the art of mind control, but her power of the force helped out a bit.

And even though Vader said "The force is strong with this one" when refering to Luke, there's nothing that says he didn't feel the same way about Leia. Luke had also been training and basically turned his force switch to "on." Leia on the other hand, never got that far. Vader couldn't even sense her family relation until he felt it off of Luke.
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#218391
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Judging by ESB & ROTJ original box office gross, here is why Lucas started to change
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218391/action/topic#218391
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ESB was dark because Lucas wasn't directing. Had he been, Cloud City would have a carnival in the middle of it and Hoth would have been inhabited by not only wampas but fuzzy snow bunnies that would watch from a distance and do cute things while Luke's unconsious body was dragged away.
http://www.saskschools.ca/~gregory/arctic/animals/ahare.jpg

ROTJ was more childlike because Lucas was directing again.

ANH was the movie of the summer. It was a stand alone story that everyone and their grandma could enjoy. ESB and ROTJ appealed to the people who became fans of the first movie.
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#218386
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Remember when everyone hated Return of the Jedi?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218386/action/topic#218386
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Originally posted by: Neil S. Bulk
Ewok moives? Droid cartoons? The SE's? The prequels? All garbage. And it's all Jedi's fault. It ruined everything.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. You just simmer down there mister. You can't blame Jedi for the shit that came after it. You might as well blame ESB for producing the Yoda the flying squirrel character of the PT because the first appearence of Yoda was in Empire Strikes Back.
Yes, it gets Han back so that he can stand around and do nothing for the rest of the film.
I will admit that most of Han's Character development happned during ESB, but at least he didn't back peddle.
Isn't Jabba's place filled with shady individuals? Wouldn't it make sense that maybe one of them knew something about a new Death Star?

And shaddy characters don't = emperial spies. I don't think that the Bloods and Crypts know much about the strategies of Middle Eastern affairs or when they will strike us next.
Why does the deflector shield have to be dropped on the Death Star so that the shuttle can land on Endor?

The Rebel fleet 5 minutes behind the Shuttle? Hell that shield would have been down and then up again in 5 seconds. To even get near the bunker the shield would have to come down. It may not have a planetary radius, but it's no pin-point either.
The Emperor is a cackling buffoon.

The emperor a buffoon? Maybe not the most brilliant military strategist, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to be at his darkside mercy.

ROTJ may not be as fantastic as ESB, but it sure as hell isn't a bad movie. It even has some of the most powerful music in the whole movie.
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#218381
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Does George even read his own stuff?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218381/action/topic#218381
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Exactly. ROTJ is episodes 7-9. They had to cram everything in there to get it done, and Leia just magically became his sister. I think it works brilliantly. Hell, even the names resonate with what twins often are stuck with.

Brian/Bradly
Megan/Molly
Jenny/Jason
Ruth/Robin
Luke/Leia

Plus, the idea that the two of them were separated at birth and yet spend the next 3 movies together is wonderful. Intentional or not, I wouldn't have it any other way.
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#218345
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Remember when everyone hated Return of the Jedi?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218345/action/topic#218345
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You know what? I actually bought into the whole Death Star II thing hook, line, and sinker until about 6 months ago. I just never really thought about it until I started looking outside the box.

"Build another one!? Oh yeah, that's original. Who's gonna give me a loan? You?"

I saw it more as a giant battle ship or something. You don't just make one USS Blowshitup. The first one was flawed. So they go back to the drawing board and try again.
"We can rebuild it. Faster. Stronger."
If they had just waited until the damn thing was complete before engaging the Rebel fleet (way-to-go Emperor) that thing would have been a bitch to blow up. But since they left ONE WHOLE SIDE OF THE STATION OPEN it was much easier to destroy.

It may not be the most original thing in the world, but it's less of a rehash than I've seen in other films.
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#218337
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Does George even read his own stuff?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218337/action/topic#218337
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No, no, no. The film cuts too quickly before Obi-Wan can say his next line.

Obi-Wan: "That boy is our last hope."
Yoda: "No, there is another."
Obi-Wan: "Yes, but can Leia handle the challenge? Luke's already been trained in the Jedi ways. She's never even been near a lightsaber."
Yoda: "Trust in the force, we must."

If I were in Obi-Wan's position, I'd think the same thing too. I'd put all my money on Luke saving the day. As cool as Leia is, she's much less of a hope than Luke is. Obi-Wan had a special bond with Luke. He's got all his faith riding in him. He doesn't doubt Leia's power in the force, but for her to bring down Vader? Hell no. Not in her condition. Yoda's comment was more like: "No, we have a spare."


EDIT: As I recall Luke did have a twin sister in the original huge ass script that had to be cut down for Star Wars. The line of "There is another" was put in the film to add tension for the audience but I think that Lucas knew where he was going with that (god, I can't believe that I just said that). It wasn't just a line that "sounded cool." There was more coming. Planned or not, the Luke/Leia thing works a little too well to be an accedent. Just like Vader's revelation, the brother/sister one was just as good.
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#218335
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Remember when everyone hated Return of the Jedi?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218335/action/topic#218335
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My dad doesn't like ROTJ at all. He only owned ANH and ESB on laserdisc, but didn't want the 3rd one. I asked him why and he said something to the effect of "Burping aliens and fuzzy bears; this isn't the Star Wars I remember. Oh and Vader killed millions of people, but because he saved his son he gets to go to jedi heaven. Pfffft."

I, however, have never had a problem with it. Granted I think the burping alien is a little to juvinile for me, but I can over look it (Lucas' colors starting to come through in that one).

I saw ROTJ as a story where military strength, technology, and man power aren't always the winning factor. Sometimes the best victory comes through innocence and a willing spirit (i.e. the Ewoks). The Empire never saw it coming. That is why the Emperor couldn't foresee it. Good was clouding his vision.

And Vader getting redeamed at the end is a classic Jesus Christ teaching that I hold very dear to my heart. That no mater what you have done, and no mater who you are, you will always be loved (i.e. Luke's love parallels that of Jesus') and you are never so far into the darkside that you can't come back and be saved. No one is a "lost cause."

I cry every time Yoda dies, and have never found the dialogue in the film to be anything but wonderful. The summer of 1983 was the season I was born, and at that same moment Return of the Jedi was playing at #1 in theaters around the country. It's my personal slice of the original trilogy that I will cherish forever.

Say what you will about ROTJ, but it holds a special place in my heart.
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#218243
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Superman Movie
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218243/action/topic#218243
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I hated Superfriends and the later 90's version. To me, all the Superheros exist in their own universe. Crossovers are a fan fiction and cheepen the franchise.

I simply could not stand to see Batman and Superman and Wonder Woman all sitting at some confrence table in space trying to figure out how best to save the world. To me, that was totally stupid. In my brain there are no cross overs. To each his own universe.

EDIT: Also, when the hell are they going to make a Wonder Woman movie? I swear, it better not suck ass. I'll be pissed if it does.
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#218240
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Superman Movie
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218240/action/topic#218240
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Yeah, basically. Mark's pretty geeked out about comic books. Who better to ask than him? ^_^

I think that the reason most people like other comic book characters over Superman, is because he's too much of a boy scout. He has not inner turmoil that makes him cool. Plus, unlike the other superheroes, we can't achive his status. He's an alien. At least with Spider-Man or the X-Men we could have a chance, and with Batman we could be just like him too, but Superman? No. We really can't be him.
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#218224
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Superman Movie
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218224/action/topic#218224
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Hey did anyone watch the A&E special last night about the history of Superman? It was pretty awesome. Mark Hamill gave an interview, too! Sweeeeet.

I'm not even a Superman fan, but now I'm looking forward to the movie.

I'm more of a Batman fan. I wonder if A&E did a similar special with Batman when "Batman Begins" was out in theaters.
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#218222
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Shatner sings to Lucas
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218222/action/topic#218222
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I watched it. It wasn't all that bad. I did 'Boo!' when they were doing a montage of various Star Wars segments and Anakin's floating head appeared on Shaw's body. But it was pretty neat. I liked Carrie Fisher's speech to Lucas. She is one funny gal.

And also, because I don't want to start a thread for this: Did anyone see the Superman special last night on A&E? Mark Hamill gave an interview for it. It was cool.
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#218218
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The Chronology of How My love for Lucas has fallen
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218218/action/topic#218218
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Originally posted by: MANDALORIAN
Yoda, for example. We all knew who Yoda was. We knew the character. Kershner knew the character. Lucas didn't. In Lucas' head, Yoda is a CG frog with a lightsabre, always up for a fight and who talks in ridiculous sentences. He is dumb, violent and has relations with wookies.



You notice how when Lucas writes for Yoda EVERYTHING he says is backwards? I hate it. In the OT he only talks that way perodically.

Backwards: "Looking? Found someone you have I would say?"

Normal: "I cannot teach him. They boy has no patients."
"Much anger in him. Like his father."
"No, no he is too old. Too old to begin the training."
"Will he finish what he begins?"
"You must feel the force around you."

Backwards: "Yes, yes. To Obi-Wan you listen."
"Told you did I. Reckless is he. Now, maters are worse."

About 2/3rds of his dialogue is normal. In the PT, I dare you to find a line he says normally. God I hate the way he was in those shitty movies.