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#265709
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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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Yeah, the whole Changling thing really was pointless. Too much like Star Trek.

Lucas may have been trying to set up Palpatine as one of these Changlings, but opted instead for the "Mace augments his own Force lightning against him" scenario. I don't think he had any idea how to handle Palps' transformation, and may've been trying to set a precendent for it with this character. Who knows really?

In any case, it was dumb, and TM is right for cutting it out completely.

--ID
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#265025
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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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TM, realistically speaking, I don't think the issues that a lot of people have complained about regarding Anakin's voice have much to do with the technical aspects of the recording (i.e. - filtering, blending, etc.)... But more to do with the voice itself. Honestly.

Evidence of this is that no one has yet uttered one negative comment about the Lama Su voice, and most people I've discussed it with think it's really great (based on the snippet we've seen from the trailer).

To be perfectly truthful, there is a quality to Anakin's new SOTDS voice which is extremely reminiscent of a martial arts movie which has been dubbed into English. Don't know what causes it, but it's definitely something related to the voice itself and not the technical details of the sound mix.

The other thing you have working against you, and this may be hard for you to believe, but there are alot of people who actually like Hayden's performance. And then there are those who may dislike Hayden's performance but have had five years to get used to it, and no other voice juxtaposed with his image will ever sound quite right to them.

Now, you know that I've been following this thread practically since the genesis. I've contributed music and helped in whatever way I could, and I have nothing but respect and admiration for the work you've put into this and for what you're trying to accomplish. I consider you a friend, and I passionately believe that the other aspects of this project are 100% pure gold. I continue to be pleasantly surprised by the things you're still coming up with. You've succeeded beyond expectations in every single area except for the voice. And unfortunately, I know it's what you've worked on the hardest.

The thing is... it is the one aspect which will make or break this project.

At this point, my friend, as controversial as all of this is, I think it's clear you've got to devote some serious thought to doing a version which retains Hayden's original voice in addition to the one you've already dubbed. As repugnant as it is to you, it may satisfy those less bothered by Hayden's performance. That way, people will have a choice.

You know that if you don't, then as soon as you release this thing someone else will immediately pull it apart and do a version that may not be up to the same level of quality that you'd like, and by that time it'd be out of your hands. I'd say it would be better for you the editor to do it before anyone else.

Sincerely,

InfoDroid
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#261923
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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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I like the music, which I think is intended to be ambient. I think it's perfect. In fact, I think you've really created something special out of this scene which was originally absolutely uninteresting and cardboard in Lucas' version and really breathed life into it.

The sound is the real miracle here. All of the mish-mashed dialogue and chattering and laughing... All of that combined with the new lighting goes a LONG way in altering the viewer's perception of the club as actually being populated. The club is alive now, and even better than that, it feels threatening. Like the cantina did.

Now, just as a disclaimer, I've never been a fan of Blade Runner... So, I can't really comment on how those scenes distract from the experience if you've watched that movie a hundred times. And I only noticed Harrison in the one close-up shot, even after watching it several times and looking for him. So, maybe you have to know what to look for. I liked the partial close-up shot. He's got a Bogart/Casablanca thing going on. I think it's fun to assume that's Han's dad...hanging out in bars just like his son...only...we'll never know for sure. And that's what makes it cool.

Anyway, good job, TM. Looks great. I wouldn't get bogged down by all the hair-splitting going on here. It happens in every thread. You can never please everyone.


--InfoDroid
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#259923
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Star Wars: REBORN - The Complete Saga (* unfinished project *)
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Yeah..... It's a dead project, Nanner.



Sorry.



BwaHAHAHAHAHA! I'm kidding. Come on, Man. Holidays are a bitch.

And that new Superman Ultimate Collector's DVD Box Set has been keeping me busy.

But, don't worry. I'm working on the trailer for ANH right now, and soon after that's released you'll be seeing many more updates that have to do with the actual work that's being put into the film itself. Guaranteed.

Til then,

--ID