ImperialFighter

ImperialFighter said:



seven - Never actually noticed that one in the past if it's right. That's one of the sort of subtle touches that doesn't really matter if it's done or not, but really nice if it is kind of thing that would be good to see after years of rewatches. :)

seven said:


When Luke does into the cave and see's Darth Vader, you hear his Lightsaber activate off screen. Next shot is Luke holding his lightsaber at the bottom of the screen, when he slowly starts to raise it, we see the blade color 'pop' on instead of already being on

ImperialFighter said:

Darth Stewie - Nice heartfelt post there fella. I've been thinking about this whole detail-orientated thing, and the fact that not all ideas from everyone here can possibly be accommodated by poor Adywan. Along with his own particular issues for changes he'd like to do, Ady has invited folks here to come up with ideas for 'fixes' and 'suggestions' towards his edits also, and by the very fact of us doing so, anyone reading this thread will come across things that they never noticed before, or never thought about before, where these movies are concerned. Unfortunately for some, it may 'niggle' them a little if certain things mentioned here are not 'attended to', now that they have been brought to their attention on this thread, as they will now NOTICE them, lol. Even Adywan cannot 'sort' or 'add' everything that is eventually posted on here for him to do on these movies, and he will disagree with a few things suggested anyway. Personally, although I have now read things that have been pointed out, that may not be 'fixed' for some reason or other, I know that Ady will be doing more than enough to make this the best 'Special Edition' of 'Empire' out there in the future, and that personally speaking, it is worth it to me to unavoidably read some of these things that will REMAIN un-amended, and not worry in any way about them once the edit eventually comes out, so that I can put forward a few of my own, in the hope that some may be actually done. The alternative is to NOT read this thread and just wait for the finished edit, and remain blissfully unaware of what hasn't been worked on. Finally, as it is impossible to second-guess Adywan's own particular choices for the work he prefers to do or not, and the fact that he will want to keep some secret SURPRISES for us of everything he's attempting until the first release, along with the fact that he has in the past attended to things that others haven't thought of, or worried too much about, while leaving other ideas alone that may have seemed more obvious to some, then I reckon EVERY idea put forward here by anyone is fair game at this point, no matter how trivial or 'out there' it may seem, and I'm sure Ady welcomes them all. So hang on to your hats, there's a few more surprises left in this baby to flag up!....

GoodMusician said:

Adyan, I think that the Lightsaber activation sound he's speaking of is when Luke exits the Wampa cave.

If you listen carefully, the sound effects there are not quite right.

doubleofive said:

Don't point them out, or they'll be all I can see!

doubleofive said:

No, nitpicky is pointing out lights in matte paintings that aren't consistant, and panel colors on the Falcon. Just teasing, ImperialFighter! :-P

ImperialFighter said:

Do you think you are able to add a touch of 'brick red' colour to some of the Millennium Falcon's relevant 'individual' panels? I mean on certain 'close-up' miniature shots where these panels are too darkened to 'black or dark grey' sometimes.

Shots such as the top and underneath of the Falcon, as it 'swerves' in 'close-up' during the asteroids from right of the frame to the left (A similar move by the Falcon is seen when it is shown going in the other direction, as Lando flies it for the first time alongside other rebel fleet spaceships, where it's 'rusty' red panel colouration is nicely obvious and far better-looking, although I realise the 'Empire' SE's overall colour is dark during the asteroids now)....and shots like when it turns to attack' the stardestroyer in 'close-up' to us....and during the miniature 'close-ups' where it travels with the rebel fleet at the end.

Octorox said:

On the issue of Boba's voice, I prefer Boba's new voice only because the old voice makes him sound like a scowling old man. It's only been 20-30 years or so since he was a young kid in Episode II. Just thought I'd throw in my two cents.

ImperialFighter said:

Being one of the more poorly-realised 'design continuity' errors, this is one I'd REALLY like to see improved on, if possible - The moving 'practical effect' showing the top of the AT-AT's leg, is totally the wrong shape....

In the 'close-up' shot of the AT-AT's underneath, as Luke's cable 'rappel-attachment' sticks on after he shoots it upwards....and the 'close-up' shot where he is dangling from it using his Lightsaber....the 'rounded' end of the moving 'leg joint' is a far different shape to the better actual miniature design of that part. The 'rounded' bit of this prop, nearest to Luke as he kicks off it, should really have been more of a raised, 'hollowed-out' circular shape with the raised protuberance in the centre of it, with what looks like some holes (?) around that, inside the 'hollow' too. Can this in any way be improved to match the pieces seen in the colourful explosion that follows underneath the model?

ImperialFighter said:

Today's thoughts....



I forgot that there is also an earlier model shot of the Falcon inside the asteroid slug, just after Vader says "I want that ship, not excuses" and his chamber closes.... This is a shot showing it's lit-up underside from a low angle. This time the two lights at the front of it are actually white light (like when it first flies down through asteroid cave) rather than red light.

There are inconsistencies throughout the original trilogy concerning these, but I wonder if it is possible to either have these red too, or perhaps CHANGING from white to red (or vice versa) during this brief shot, which would explain it a bit, and ties in with the next interior shot where Han is doing something and 'shutting things down'?

adywan said:

Anyway, does anyone fancy seeing the first 2 "finished" minutes (minus the crawl) of ESB:R, complete with new FX?

ImperialFighter said:

Going back to perhaps adding a red 'light' dot to the end 'close-ups' of the Millennium Falcon model at the end- It might look really good to also add the two red 'lights' to the front ends to, to also match the look of the Falcon as seen on the platform of the 'floating city', and when it blasts off from there. I think these would really help to make these shots look even better, and add to a sense of realism if they tie together more with the earlier platform shots.