Nice cover there Erikstormtrooper. Any chance of it being added to the ANH:R page on Fanedit.org, to go along with the other ones there? And some 'disc art' to go with it would be good too.
ImperialFighter said:Can you please do something with the distractingly large, unnatural (hey it's ALL unnatural I know!) 'orange glow' that occurs when a very small asteroid collides into the large 'crater' of the huge 'potato-shaped' asteroid, just after Han replies to C3PO, 'Never tell me the odds'.
Perhaps either put in some 'sparking debris' on it's impact, or get rid of the small asteroid, it's shadow, and subsequent 'orange glow' altogether! Either way would be preferable to what is there at the moment. Thanks.
Adywan - The 'glowing' asteroid thing that Monroville and others commented on recently was something I mentioned way back on page 31 of this thread.
While it's not a big deal, it's something bigger than some of the subtler things you've attended to previously, and seems an over-the-top effect for such a small asteroid impact into the bigger one.... Maybe you could consider even 'toning' the resulting explosion down a tad, or make the tiny asteroid a little bigger....
Just a last thought on that.
An accompanying 'booklet' too? Wow! You are spoiling us. :)
Darth Hade said:4. Shortened Wampa scene
Honestly, I don't understand the dislike for the new wampa scene. I know the argument for less is more being scarier, but come on, it's Star Wars, not SAW.
And Lucas would've had it in there in 1980 if he could. Ironically, the bad wampa shot is when we first see it hit Luke and kill the tauntaun.
That's the shot that should be removed.
Show just the claw hitting Luke and killing the tauntaun. Wait till the cave to actually see the creature.
If one looks at it logically, the wampa would definitely take both the tauntaun and Luke. There's no way a large meal like that would be passed up in such a frozen wasteland.
So, seeing the wampa eating the tauntaun makes perfect sense.
The only bad shot in that scene is when the wampa starts to slower lumber toward Luke after it stands up from its crouch. In the next shot from the OUT, it has claws raised and is moving very fast.
That makes no sense. Lose that one shot and the scene is perfect, especially if you add burn marks to the wampa's fur, add a little smoke to the wound, and correct the timing of Luke's lightsaber deactivating.
On the other hand....
I always personally loved that first 'unexpected' scare of the sudden appearance of a roaring Wampa's face popping up into the frame near the beginning, and would not like to see it omitted from Adywan's edit....especially since that first version has got the best-designed facial features as far as I'm concerned....
Yes, it makes perfect sense for the Taun-Taun to have been eaten....but I certainly don't think that Luke's Taun-Taun was left behind just because we only see Luke being dragged behind the Wampa onscreen. Surely even the mighty Wampa would have struggled to drag both Luke and the heavy Taun-Taun along to it's ice-cave at the same time, in one trip....
While it could be said (and it has been previously) that there is also the possibility that there was more than one Wampa around to share the load....I always thought that Luke had been 'hung up for another time', while the Wampa (or Wampa's) ate the Taun-Taun first, which had been brought back secondly....
As far as which SE shots should be kept or removed, or whether the sequence looked better with none of the new shots, and should just revert back to the minimal original editing and pacing, there seems to be wildly differing opinions, and no consensus unfortunately. There are a few combinations that would look okay (if they didn't linger so long), but hopefully we'll like Adywan's eventual decision, whatever it turns out to be, even if it reverts to the exact original editing.
Hey, I'm just looking forward to the re-colouring! :)
adywan said:Just added more details on what will be fixed in this edit to page 1
Fantastic! Thanks for the latest update on all this. While they are all going to be anticipated greatly in making this movie even better in many ways, one especially sticks out for me personally -
23. Larger blockade orbiting Hoth
This was always something that I hoped you'd look at in some way, in ANY kind of way. I don't care how you end up adding to the overall effect here, I'm just really pleased that you are doing something here. It will be great I'm sure. :)
As bkev said, each to their own, but I'm in the camp that will need more than George just fixing previous errors (such as lightsaber colours and sound mix) in any future releases that are put out, to impress me now. We'll see what eventually comes out, but in the meantime it's only Ady's future versions that I'm looking forward to expectantly.
Ditto. Another terrific preview. Great stuff.
Easy, girl. :)
doubleofive and Moth3r - Thanks for those very quick replies and links guys! That's cleared it up for me.
I wonder why there isn't a link for the 'full-blown' PAL DL DVD version on Fanedit.org too, in that case.
Can someone please clarify this for me? - on Adywan's 'ANH:R' page on the Fanedit.org site, it gives 'RapidShare' links for the following versions - Xvid AVI / PAL SL DVD / NTSC SL DVD / NTSC DL DVD / NTSC DVD-5 Purist Edition SL DVD.
What I'm unsure about is this - While I know that the NTSC DL DVD will be the one with all the 'extras', I didn't realise that there was also a something known as a NTSC SL DVD version (not to be confused with the Purist Edition NTSC SL DVD). Is this just an NTSC version of Adywan's 'extended' edit without any menus and 'extras'?
Also, I thought that the PAL version with 'extras' would be a PAL DL DVD, yet the 'RapidShare' links just mention a PAL SL DVD, with no mention of a PAL DL DVD. Again, is this PAL SL DVD that is mentioned, just a version of the 'extended' edit without any menus and 'extras', or have these links been written wrongly? Thanks for any help in clearing this up for me.
Just seen your latest colour comparison shots Adywan, and they look fabulous! It's so great to see Vader's saber is RED again. Excellent work as usual. Thanks for the preview.
You are probably right doubleofive. His loss then!
Yeah, once he's watched THAT, he might completely rethink his position on 'fan edits'! :)
skyjedi2005 - I wouldn't worry about the fact that we might not see much of Mark and Harrison on this thing. Usually Justin fails to ever get a 're-union' of any specific show members he goes after! It's usually just a case of being lucky enough to 'hang out' with the 'more accessable' ones on an individual basis, and reminisce with them on a personal level. It should still be a warm and possibly irreverent watch. Enjoy!
Yeah, should be fun. I won't hold my breath for Justin to manage a complete 're-union' of the main original cast though.... ;)
Thanks Jay - I can see all the posts on pages 122, 123, and 124 perfectly today! :)
Adywan - Good luck with all the FX alterations you're about to start already! I'm sure they'll end up great.
asterisk8 - thanks for getting me up to date with what I missed due to that page glitch. You made a very good job of the 'balcony' shot.
Bingowings said:Bobocop said:
By the way, Bingowings,
Indeed it does but as much as I would like to take credit for the hardwork of others that was asterisk8 who did those there shots, I was merely commenting on them.
What 'reflection shots'? I think these must have been in the 8 posts that I can't see.... What were they concerning?
SithTrooper - You will be pleased to know that Adywan has already greatly improved on this. See one of the 'Previews' on page 1 of this thread.
BTW - I've come back today to find that I can only get as far as post #3042 by asterisk8 on page 122, but then resume okay on page 123 (this page) at post #3051 by Ripplin. I've checked this on a friend's laptop, and it's the same on his. Is this the issue that Ripplin and Molly are referring to? And more importantly, what have I missed in those 8 posts I can't see? Thanks for any help.
adywan said:There was a couple of reasons i changed that shot. if you look at the left hand stardestroyer in the original its filmed at a different angle than the other one and towards the end of the shot it looks odd. also the way its filmed they look like they would collide later on as they head toward each other. plus when we see the falcon escape there are no stardestroyers in sight yet they are coming from the same place. so they now look like they are coming from the opposite side of the planet.
Adywan - It's strange how a static screenshot of the original can make it seem okay. However, the actual 'movement' of this shot, as outlined by you, is right on the nail. This is one of your changes that I really preferred over the original effect here. I always disliked it, and thought it could have been done better. To me, your version looks far better overall, so lucky for me then!
Hello asterisk8 - I always liked the juxtaposition, movement, and 'composition' of the 2 adjoining effects shots above, and I'm still unable to agree that the Falcon and TIES are coming from underneath the Stardestroyer in the bottom shot, as first suggested by Shadowman99. Although you kindly gave a link to my own version of the movements in your post, a revised, simpler version is this: in the top shot above, we see the Falcon and TIEs coming almost 'directly' towards us, with the Falcon disappearing just below us as it goes off-screen, and the TIEs following closely off-screen afterwards, as the Stardestroyer continues to come almost 'directly' at us. Then, in the bottom shot, we initially see a ' close-up' of the Falcon's underneath, followed by the underneath of the TIEs shown following in this shot, as they all then recede into the distance before the prow of the Stardestroyer eventually comes into view.
I reckon that visually, a case can be made that the Falcon (and the following TIEs) are just 'dipping down' slightly as they proceed ahead in front of the Stardestroyer at this point (which then fires 2 green laserbolts at the Falcon from underneath), before they then 'dip upwards' slightly again before the end of the shot. Personally, I dislike the idea of turning the prow upside-down, and having it seem as if it's coming from the bottom of the frame, as I just think it's unneccessary, and doesn't look as good. I do like the proposal that the Falcon could be made to be somewhat 'manoeuvering' a little more in the existing bottom shot though. I'll be interested in what Adywan decides on this one, and how it turns out if he does choose to alter it in any way.
Great to see your colour-corrected screenshot samples for 'A New Hope' added to the first page now. I look forward to all of these, as an indicator of some of your colour-correction preferrences for your eventual 'revisited' versions of 'Empire' and 'Jedi' perhaps? :)
Welcome nabakov - you'll be pleased to know that Adywan has previously mentioned he's considering changing Captain Needa's shuttle. doubleofive has even done a couple of speculative 'mock-ups' on this thread. See page 108.
adywan saidNice idea but i like the way it ends originally too much too so i won't be changing it.
Whew! ;)
This looks an interesting project. However, it would be really nice to have that original 'DOOM' logo design included at the start (say, just in red against black background) as it's such an iconic-looking bit of typography, and really would set the tone.
Your subtitle lettering looks great though!
