ImperialFighter

m.s said:

I don't know how a 1950's US headline would read exactly, but maybe something like "US archaeologist cleared from communist suspicion" could do the trick. 

Thing is m.s, the footage of Laserschwert's (half-folded) newspaper is very brief and 'subtle' on the desk, and not in 'close-up', so any wording would need to be a short 'soundbite' in bold letters to even register properly.

I think there's too much wording in your example for it to work, unless Laserschwert says otherwise.  So something like

DR. JONES

CLEARED!

       or

DR. JONES

IN CLEAR!

       or

   LOCAL

LECTURER

CLEARED!

       or

    HERO

       IS

CLEARED!

would be more along the lines of what would be noticeable in the brief shot, I think.

What's your take on this Laser, where amount of wording is concerned?

jones1899 said:

EyeShotFirst said:

http://www.movie-moron.com/?p=453

That is what he has stated several times.

From the bottom of that same page...

 

**UPDATE SEP 08** Harrison Ford says George Lucas is currently in “think mode” for the next Indy, and Lucas has now done a 360 and said that Harrison will be the lead if it happens. It’s likely Lucas put the Shia idea out there to see how it played with the fans, and as everyone hated the notion, he’s retracted it.

Whew!  Close call there.  Glad George is 'currently in think mode' for the next Indy, as the last thing I would have wanted was a 'Mutt Jones' movie.  I think he lost his touch for a genuine audience-pleaser long ago.

I just hope Spielberg can reign him in a little with this material and give us all an Indy adventure REALLY worth waiting all those years for, this time around.

adywan said:

There is no continuity problem here. Dengar is always at the left side of IG88 (check out the first shot of the scene from the Pit point of view). Its all to do with the angles of the camera in each shot. If you look closely you will see that you wouldn't see Dengar in the close up shots featuring Boba Fett and when Vader walks down the stairs Dengar is again in shot in the correct position.

 

and also said:

Also this scene isn't meant to be set on the bridge. That's why they closed off the window and why i won't be adding the control room to the shot after vader walks down the stairs so it remains a corridor. Nothing to do here (apart from the impossible continuity error of Piette magically appearing at the end of the pit which is impossible to fix)

Some intereresting answers once again Adywan, thanks for those.

And thanks especially for making my day where my confusion about that 'Dengar / IG-88 / Boba Fett' positioning was concerned!  All these years, my eyes have determinedly looked on that cut as going from seeing the front of IG-88 and Boba Fett saying "As you wish", as he turned a little to watch Vader pass....to then immediately going BEHIND him (and IG-88 ) in'close-up' in the very next shot, as he CONTINUED to turn and watch Vader.... (which threw up all the continuity issues for me that I mentioned previously)

But I was so wrong thankfully.  :) 

Now that you've pointed it out, it's bleeding obvious that we actually cut from seeing the front of IG-88 and Boba Fett, to then immediately MOVING ALONG TO THE LEFT A LITTLE, so that we see in-between Dengar and IG-88 in 'close-up' from THE FRONT instead!  So we wouldn't see IG-88's gun after all, as it's 'offscreen' in this shot, and all is well with the background now too!  Amazing how this played tricks with me over so many viewings, and I think that the continuous 'turning' of Boba Fett, then Dengar, combined to fool me into believing it was intended to be Boba Fett in BOTH shots.... 

My brain just wouldn't register it any other way, so thanks for putting me right, as I can really enjoy this shot from now on, knowing it's correct after all.  And there was me thinking that this one was probably way too tricky even for you, LOL! 

As far as that other reply that I've quoted above -  yes, I'd noticed that sudden jump in Piett's position between shots too, but under the circumstances at the time, that just faded into insignificance compared to how much I previously (wrongly) believed that Boba Fett / IG-88 shot was messed up!  Man, I love this scene now.  :)

But I'm uncertain if when you mention the 'window' in this answer, if you are meaning the potential 'starfield window' that vaderios referred to, that could be added at the back of the 'alcove' behind where Zuchuss is standing?  Aren't the 'Bounty Hunters' just inside the start of the Bridge in these shots, with Zuchuss in front of the one directly opposite the one where Vader looks out near the end?

No worries if you're too busy to clafify for a while.

That's one of my favourite 'subtle' fixes in this whole thing DarthBo.  That shot blew me away, and the current amount of 'distance blur' looks great to me as it is, I'd have to say.

Having said that, check out what I've mentioned I've seen for years in my next post, lol.

or_iginal, it only took a few moments before the Falcon's full engine 'glow' appeared in that SE addition in 'ANH', as it rose upwards.  We saw the rear 'detail' for a short time, but overall it was fully 'glowing' pretty quickly after lifting off.

As far as the 'platform' take-off, there was plenty of time for it to have been fully 'aglow' from when Chewie sits down to charge up the engines (C3PO gets dragged by R2, and then we see Stormtroopers firing in-between times), to when we see it lift off the platform.  Also, it's almost facing us as we first see it turn around as it takes off from the platform, so this all makes it consistent with being fully 'aglow' by the time we see the rear of it. 

The sound effect just seems to tie-in with when the Falcon zooms off straight ahead, after it has lifted up and fully turned.  Although the engines are already fully 'aglow' at this point, it works fine for me I have to say.  I think you could be right about that sound effect in the trailer not being audible in the official release, perhaps due to the crescendo of the music at this point.

vaderios said:

Also see some detail is lost. I mean.

the path that leads to the bridge is lighter that the stroke around the hole that the officers are.

so:

Edit: big pic:

Also impfighter take a look at this.

Full rez here: http://tof.canardpc.com/view/ea2c96eb-2276-451a-b935-f55a13eb8aab

 

-Angel

It's all Greek to me!  ;)

I'll give it a go vaderios -  where your first point is concerned, as far as I can make out on my screen when watching the SE DVD, the darker(?)-shaded 'edging' that goes all the way around the top of the 'sunken' control bays seems to vary in 'hue' and the 'shine' of the 'flooring' from shot to shot, depending on the lighting conditions they were filmed in.  For instance, there is a varying 'sheen', just like how the uppermost surfaces of Adywan's terrific added 'stairs' seen on page 1 (with recent updated info.) of this thread 'reflect' differently to nearby parts of the main 'flooring' too.

I've no problem with any of them, nor your example above which comes immediately after we hear Captain Needa order "Shields up!" as the Falcon flies near, as I can still make out the defining 'contrast' of where this 'edging' is.  All of these shots will be nicely improved with Adywan's colour-correction anyway.

As far as those bottom shots of the Bridge and the Bounty Hunters go -  it does seem that behind the 'close-up' shot of the Boutnty Hunters when Vader says "There will be a substantial reward for the one who finds the Millennium Falcon", that the back of the side 'alcove' area is solid in the footage.  Unfortunately, although you've shown a mock-up showing where a 'starfield' window backdrop could be, it's a moving shot, and I don't know if this is achievable. 

However, that is assuming that this side 'alcove' is symmetrically identical with the one opposite it, in the first place....  We never see another example of a direct shot of this particular side, and only see that the other side 'alcove' opposite it happens to be 'windowed'....when Vader enters that side with Admiral Piett, near the end.

And as far as your other smaller shots overlayed on the right-hand side go, I agree that the width of 'opening' to the Bridge 'entrance' set (also seen when Vader exits at the end) seems to be 'narrower' than the width of the one shown in the biggest overall shot....  Although I generally like your amended mock-up for that, again I can live with this other brief questionmark over the set dimensions if need be.  We'll see what Ady decides.

On a more bothersome note, and I don't remember this being brought up yet -  near the end of the 'Bounty Hunters' scene, we see Boba Fett saying "As you wish" with IG-88 on his right-hand side.  We then immediately cut to the very last shot in the scene, behind a 'close-up' of who I always assumed was Boba Fett, with IG-88 still on his right-hand side, as we see Admiral Piett tell Vader "Lord Vader.  My lord, we have them"

Well, it turns out to be a 'continuity' nightmare, since it's not Boba Fett after all, but the back of Dengar!  With IG-88 on his right....who is without the gun we could see near his left arm in the previous shot beside Boba Fett....

Here's a reference shot of Dengar near IG-88 in an unused shot shown on some packaging -  http://www.ioffer.com/img/item/190/473/57/o_kenner_dengar.JPG.jpg

And here's a look at some of Dengar's backpack details which although not 100% accurate here, prove it's Dengar in the footage rather than Boba Fett in that last shot -  http://www.monstersinmotion.com/catalog/images/tv/d3.jpg

Unfortunately, I don't think even Adywan can rectify this last shot in the 'Bounty Hunters' scene....as although it could be 'flipped' into reverse to make Dengar seem positioned to the right of IG-88 (to match where he was seen at the start of the scene), this would then throw up issues of Vader's direction of travel in the shot (as well as issues of reversed chestbuttons and silver belt detail too)....and as if that's not bad enough, the background should surely be showing the 'sunken' control bays anyway, considering we are positioned behind these Bounty Hunters now?....rather than the section of the set that we DO see at this point!  :(

The Golden Idol said:

I don't think the public knows Dr. Henry Jones, Jr. as "Indiana," so, I don't think using "Indy" in the headline would work.

Yeah, you're right.  Those were all quite tongue-in-cheek, except for the 'HERO HAILED! and 'HERO TO WED! ones, lol.

I guess that 'HERO TO WED!' is my favoured submission for consideration, for these reasons -

1.  It's previously established in the movie that Indy had indeed been a 'military' hero (as opposed to a movie 'action' hero known to us) in the intervening years, and 'someone' could have 'leaked' this fact, if it wasn't widely known in the area.  As HeKS points out, apart from getting up to some usual brave, madcap antics, there doesn't seem to be something that Indy did in this movie that could actually be said to merit the receipt of an award of some kind.  However, I see the word 'HERO' being used here in the context of what he has done for his country in the past, according to this movie's dialogue.  Dr. Jones has earned the moniker, irrelevant of his other 'INDY' antics, and it confirms that all is well with regards to how he is seen in an 'official' capacity, by the end of the movie.

2.  If that actual footage of Jim Broadbent in the office ends up being used at all, then it immediately precedes the actual 'wedding' footage (no matter how that 'wedding' footage is edited by anyone), so seeing that headline for a couple of seconds or so beforehand at the end of that shot, will in no way detract from what comes next, but rather becomes the first 'reveal' of the conclusion to the movie, just immediately before the footage that suddenly follows.

3.  It's short and snappy.  (the 'exclamation mark' is optional, although I like how it's inclusion sort of implies 'he's doing what?!' to us all...)  ;)

Laserschwert said:

I haven't continued yet... do we have a head line?

I guess it would need to be short and snappy?       DR. JONES

                                                                                   VINDYCATED!

                                                                                              or

                                                                                          HERO

                                                                                  VINDYCATED!

                                                                                              or

                                                                                    LOCAL HERO

                                                                                   VINDYCATED!                                                                                      

                                                                                              or

                                                                                          HERO

                                                                                        HAILED!

                                                                                              or

                                                                                          HERO

                                                                                       TO WED!

Anyone else?

Sevb32 said:

Keep in mind that the interiors of the falcon take some size fudging compared with the outside too.

You mean there's more of this stuff?  Damn you George Lucas!  ;)

That particular example never gave me quite the same baffling head-scratching uncertainty as the 'Carbon Chamber' location did.  It's an instance where I'll be glad to see Adywan show a version that will clarify things a little more, eventually.  I'm happy to unlearn what I thought I'd learned about it, if need be.  :)

adywan said:

i have decided that the design of the vane doesn't need to be radically changed.  I'm still going to be making a model of it, but this is more to get rid of the flat painting than anything else. I'm just going to make the dome at the top slightly larger to accommodate the chamber. The way i see the scene is this:

Luke enters the door and it closes, shutting R2 out. He then walks down the long shaft of the vane and the platform lift takes him up to the carbon chamber. Do we need to see him walking down the tunnel? no. Does all this need to be explained in the edit? Again, no.

Adywan, now that I see your description here, it's interesting to see how differently you've happened to envisage this particular scene over the years, compared to the way I've always thought of it as being.

It seems that once Luke has been 'manipulated' (as per Vader's earlier instruction) into entering the area / room that R2 gets shut out of, and when that shot then ends....you imagine that Luke then accesses the long extended 'arm' tunnel towards the main 'vane' structure somewhere during this point....before we cut immediately to the next shot where the footage shows Luke rising upwards in a shaft into the 'Carbon Chamber' room, which would rightly be now inside the main 'vane' structure, because of the way you imagine his movement 'in-between' this particular cut....which means that when Vader falls and Luke jumps downwards to go after him, the 'tunnel' that Luke is then seen entering and then exiting out of, is totally within the confines of the main 'vane' structure....which rightly brings him out in line with the 'round window' positioned at a lower level than the 'Carbon Chamber' situated above....

Whereas I always imagined the footage like this -  once Luke has entered the area / room that R2 gets shut out of, and when that shot ends....that unlike what the footage shows when we cut immediately to the next shot, I agree, Luke didn't rise directly upwards into the 'Carbon Chamber' at this point. 

(he was already quite high up on Bespin city, whereas we know the 'vane' seems situated nearer the bottom of the overall city, although having said that, Luke eventually seems to fall a very great distance from where that 'vane' is situated in the footage....)

Rather, I thought that there was indeed some kind of 'in-between' travel during the shots at this point, except I imagined that instead of him accessing the long extended 'arm' tunnel....that he'd ended up in a lower level somewhere, before then rising upwards in a shaft into the 'Carbon Chamber'....which was still somewhere within the confines of the city's main body, near the 'surrounding' wall where the 'vane' juts out from....before Vader falls and Luke jumps downwards to go after him, meaning that the footage of the 'tunnel' we then see Luke entering and exiting out of, would actually be the long extended 'arm' leading to the main body of the 'vane'....

In this instance, I discount what some 'reference' books claim is the exact location for the 'Carbon Chamber', because the actual footage can be interpreted in either of the above ways, as it stands.  There are good points for both versions, but neither seems to be without it's problems unfortunately -

In my scenario, the duel starts off in a secluded area (the 'Carbon Chamber') which is situated in a somewhat lower area of the city, before leading onto an even-more secluded and confined, nearby battle area (the main body of the 'vane'), due to Vader's unexpected fall, before ending on the outer ganty.  Due to there being three seperate locations during the action, this gives a feeling of Luke being draw gradually into an even tighter situation over the course of the duel....

This scenario removes the problem that the 'vane' is too 'narrow' to accomodate the 'Carbon Chamber' near it's top in the current footage, as now the 'Carbon Chamber' is not in the 'vane' itself, but inside the 'surrounding' structure around the 'vane'.

Unfortunately, one drawback is to this scenario is that the current footage shows that the long extending 'arm' to the 'vane' is not in line with the 'round window' which is beside where Luke is seen exiting out of the 'tunnel'.  (the new miniature 'vane' could be modified so that it is aligned, of course!)

As far as your own scenario goes, the duel starts and finishes in somewhat the same confined battle area (the main body of the 'vane'), but on different levels of it, due to Vader's fall, ending on it's gantry.  I guess that Luke is imagined to initially go downwards a fair bit in your version too, compared to his starting-off point higher up in the city (where R2 is stopped from following), before he reaches and enters (unseen by us) the long extended 'arm' located far below him at that point, which led him to the main body of the 'vane'....

Since a new miniature 'vane' is planned, the issue of how the 'Carbon Chamber' fits in, can be allowed for.  Although looking at some of the footage, the set looks like it was quite sizeable to me, so the adjusted miniature would probably need a sizeable modification to match.  I have no problem with that however, as it will certainly make the 'vane' consistent with the 'set' for this scenario.

The amount of characters seen in the 'Carbon Chamber' previous to the duel, throws up a visual question for me though.  We see that Vader....Boba Fett....some Stormtroopers....Lando Calrissian....Lobot....some Bespin Security Guards....a couple of Imperial Officers....some Ugnaughts....Han....Leia....and Chewbacca with C3PO on his back....are all seen in the 'Carbon Chamber' before the duel there.  One of the reasons I assumed that it was located seperately, nearby the 'vane', was because I assumed that the footage of the 'tunnel' that Luke enters, was meant to be the actual long extended 'arm' itself, and therefore not a straight-forward access point for so many to have come and gone also.  I thought that by being nearby, in the structure around the 'vane', that the 'Carbon Chamber' seemed easier for general access by this number of people, if located there instead.  Although there are other possible ways for them all to get to the 'Carbon Chamber' if it's inside the 'vane', a seperate location within the nearby city structure just seemed a more straight-forward proposition going by the amount of activiy earlier.

However, although you plan to make the 'Luke in tunnel' footage seem just a part of the inside of the main body of the 'vane' now, rather than it showing how Luke got from the main body of the 'city' to the main body of the 'vane'....I'll very much look forward to seeing the current inconsistencies fixed, where the 'vane' shot exteriors are concerned, to allow for your preferred scenario.

Ripplin said:

One from ESB I wish could go in is when Han tells Leia "you should wear girls' clothes all the time." :)

That sure is a howler of a deleted scene.  Who wrote that?  Thank goodness it never made the cut, lol.

bigbaddaddyvader said:

Janskeet said:

This set always baffeled me I made a post about this awhile ago and some of you guys blew it off calling it pure nonsense. Now look, you are bringing this up after blowing me off. So this wing that comes out into the middle of the shaft, is the carbon freezing chamber inside of it?

 

That would not make any sense to me were that to be the carbon chamber.With the movement of the duel and the size of the chamber and where Luke falls out the window I would have thought that structure would have needed to have been much larger.

If it's in a book though.....

Perspective be damned,lol.

bigbaddaddyvader, some here (myself included) thought that the 'Carbon Chamber' was meant to be situated somewhere in the 'surrounding' structure, and that Luke (and Vader) had travelled along the extending 'arm' leading to the interior of the 'vane'....rather than the 'Carbon Chamber' being somehow situated inside the 'vane itself near the top....  Having said that, I would have liked to see the extending 'arm' moved up a bit on the 'vane', so that it was more in line with the 'round window', to match the area that Luke is seen entering into as the 'gate' shuts behind him.

However, it seems that Adywan prefers to imply that the 'Carbon Chamber' IS at the top of the 'vane', and is probably one of the reasons that he is planning a miniature of this.  I guess some of it's dimensions will differ quite a bit from the 'vane' currently seen, so this can seem more plausible.

vaderios, judging by the angle we see of the top of the 'railing' here, I also agree that we wouldn't be able to see the bottom part of the 'vane' structure that you mocked-up, as it's 'vanishing point' would be somewhere underneath the 'walkway' from this angle.  However, it was neat to see that flashing 'walkway' light 'yellowed' up in your version, compared to the current shot!

Adywan, that reminds me.  I know that the lightsaber that flew out the 'round window' with Luke IS actually shown, but I still think it's a bit lost among the nearby 'debris' in the shot without your helpful arrow, which pointed it out to me in the first place, lol.... 

I'd still like to see it perhaps positioned nearer to Luke's right hand (where our eyes are drawn during this shot), if at all possible.  No worries if not, but for years I thought that it had surely fallen down the long chasm below, and that it was yet another oversight by the makers when Luke appeared with it to face Vader again!  Turned out I was wrong, but I wonder how many others thought this too, due to it not being placed in a little more obvious position?

adywan said:

vaderios said:

Where is ImpFighter when i need him :P

First pic. That shit that is next to vader has no purpose. We dont see it again. Or not. Correct me

Second pic the carbon chambers or where the duel begun it should be visible in some shots from behind.

And:

 

-Angel

Pic 1 - what you are seeing is the railing for the stairs on the gantry where falls over. This shot was obviously taken from earlier on in the sequence. I have removed the railing in this shot.

Pic 2 - the angle this shot is taken would make the structure off left side of the screen so wouldn't be visible

Pic 3 -  I see what you mean here. i will look into fixing that

vaderios, nice call on that top pic with the 'railing' that shouldn't be there.  It's one of those little things I'd never noticed before, and good to see that Adywan has removed it.

(Just for the record, having looked at the preceding shots, I agree that the main body of the 'vane' would not be in view in your middle pic of vader, as I'd have to say that it is shot from a low angle from near the perspective of the 'sliced posts' off to his right-hand side, and the 'vane' would indeed be well offscreen to the left of the frame as Adywan has suggested.)

However, you made another good spot on the bottom pic too, vaderios, where that detail on the far right (going down the 'surrounding' structure) of the shot shouldn't be seen from our point-of-view here.  Nice to see it looks like that will be removed too, now.

Monroville, interesting ideas as always, many of which I REALLY like. 

The original 'theatrical' release (which also features my preferred colouration) is STILL my personal favourite version, compared to the 'Director's Cut' which disappointed me in quite a few ways.  However, this has the potential to be a terrific edit, and I hope to add a few thoughts and additional suggestions here eventually, for you to consider.

I look forward to seeing what your 'Dune' proposals are, too.

adywan said:  

the only way to do this would be to find a movie that has a long enough flyover of flat snow covered ground.

Adywan, It would be neat indeed if these particular exterior backgrounds seen out of the 'snowspeeder cockpit' shots could be enhanced somewhat, but if it's too problematic, then that's the way it is.  Perhaps someone will recall some footage off something that's long enough to use if you'd really like to do something here. 

(Clint Eastwood's 1982 release 'Firefox', strangely sprung to mind, probably because it featured John Dykstra effects....although since I haven't seen it for years, I just can't remember if there were any 'point-of-view' shots of the snow-covered landscape during it's effects scenes, or not)

Guess you'll just have to knock down that wall through to the kitchen after all....  Surely the wife will understand.  ;)

Good luck with those 'TIE Bomber' plans.  Awesome....

corellian77,  I hadn't seen that interesting top shot of production art before.  Nice one.

Adywan, while I'd seen the 'prototype' miniature shots over the years, I'd also never seen the actual 'Falcon/Tantive lV' miniature shot you showed in your last post.  It's always neat to see rare behind-the-scenes photos of the Original Trilogy filming miniatures.

It was especially neat to clearly see where exactly it's retractable 'landing struts' were situated.

shazbazzar said:

Will you "fix" the Bespin scene of the Heroes going to dinner with Vader?

The windows show the exterior of Bespin as they turn the corner, but when the doors open, the "windows" are the "older" version.

I'd love to see some kind of enhancement here too, shazbazzar.  Welcome aboard.

Some tricky stuff though I guess, as some of the shots concerned have a fair bit of 'movement'.  Sure would be neat if some new views can be achieved in that room though.  (Those ones are NOT specified on page 1 by the way)

Adywan, I'd considered mentioning 'Darth Jackson' also, but decided he was just so wrong on so many levels, lol.  And I reckon he should have kept that helmet on!  ;) 

The funniest point was when Simon Cowell's 'eliminator buzzer' went off EVEN BEFORE he'd properly started his 'routine'....  Now THAT was 'comedy timing'!

Octorox, thanks for that great link.  Although the 'Darth / Thriller' routine was definately superior as you said, I'll always have a soft spot for that 'Chewbacca / Jawa' duo....  :)

vaderios said:

Janskeet said:

 

 

I found a spelling error:

 

You mentioned this twice. First at #5 and then again at #34:

 

3:Where is hotrod?

4:Where is hotrod?

-Angel

I shouldn't really, but thanks for the bellylaugh vaderios.  :)

Janskeet, you'll find that this forum is FILLED with errors....from a certain point of view.  (in best Obi-Wan voice)

jones1899 said:

Also hated the awkward dialog between Indy, Mac and Spalko in the beginning.

Again, a lot of this material set a 'tone' at the beginning of the movie, that I didn't care for.

I'll put my preferred re-structuring of this whole sequence and dialogue up as soon as I can, starting from where I left off recently.

vaderios said:

As i see in Ady's video he added a camera shake when the SDs are colliding..

But!

It supposed to be shaking in the bridge not the outside.

 

Check that 1st Adywan clip I posted again, vaderios.

I believe it IS the 'interior' of the 'Bridge' that is shaking, rather than the exterior....

adywan said:

Ripplin said:

vaderios said:

I d love to keep the lasers that the TIES firing at MF at the asteroid chase( adds more color to the scene)

I was surprised at that too. Hope it makes it into the final cut, as I was really impressed with it.

sorry, but the lasers are gone for good. After i added them there was just something wrong with the sequence that i just couldn't put my finger on at first. it was the lasers. i tried removing them just from the shot where the TIE blows up but that didn't work so they had to go.

Just caught up with your latest comments Adywan.  Lots of interesting things covered as usual, including your current thoughts on the additional 'TIE-firing' shots you'd previously worked on.

The whole 'asteroid chase' sequence was always one of my favourites in the OT, due to it's visuals, sound, and pacing, and the various enhancements and re-colouring you've done to it (even without your extra 'firing'), will make it even better now.

However, when I first saw your previous clip showing the additional 'TIE-firing' in the sequence, I thought you'd placed the extra laserbolts and sound effects in a way that truly enhanced the shots and accompanying soundtrack, especially in the first 2 shots that we saw and heard these new ones.  This had been an unexpected possible addition at the time, and I didn't know if you were planning on adding even more during the rest of the sequence or not, too, at that point....  :)

But if you ultimately don't want them, then you don't want them....and the overall sequence will STILL be terrific with the 'TIE-firing' just beginning where it currently does, at the point where the Falcon skims close to the surface of the largest asteroid.

Just a thought, but there are many scenes where the TIEs seem to open fire DIRECTLY at the Falcon....but I imagine that during the times they don't seem to be trying to 'herd it into position somewhere', that they are instead just intending to 'disable' it (as per Vader's wishes I'd imagine) rather than destroy it.  (That and the fact that the movie would be less dramatic if they ONLY FOLLOWED the Falcon, without firing!)  Therefore I have no problem with any scenes that show the Falcon being fired at, whatsoever.

Anyway, just my own last thought on that, and for anyone that hasn't seen this yet, here's how Adywan's excellent 'TIE-firing' was added into the flow of the current sequence -

How the overall (unfinished) sequence looks -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTp8mKFxmbg&feature=PlayList&p=4DB0EA9A587095198&index=34

How the extra 'TIE-firing' looked -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2CRs8PAhzg&feature=PlayList&p=4DB0EA9A58709519&index=43

Oh, and still enjoying the recent trailer immensely!

vaderios said:

I made 2 steps ady made 3. Is the same wide in length (not width) as mine.

MMMMM, wait till I get my ruler out....  ;)  

I was meaning the width of the stairs as we see them from the front view of the shots, where they come 'towards us', but I realise you know Adywan's got it covered.

As far as those 'Bridge' shots being 'flipped' in the first place vaderios, I'm a little curious as to how the positioning of the final shots of Captain (now Admiral) Piett turn out.  Going by Adywan's 'flipped' shot of the 'Bridge' from the ending, it looks like Piett is on OUR right-hand side of the shot now, whereas in the shot just before Vader turns around, we see a shot of him 'looking ahead at the escaped Falcon' from what seems to be the LEFT-hand side of the 'Bridge', where he has his hand on a section of it....before his gaze turns to follow Vader's exit past him....

fishmanlee said:

hey i dont know if this fits here but in the phantom menace could a scene be incoporated of maul throwing his saber at obi or qui-gon?

No fishmanlee, that doesn't fit here, but there is a prequel ideas thread you could suggest it on, until Adywan's 'Phantom Menace:Revisited' thread comes round.

Ganamae said:

Wowzers Vaderios, that mockup add so much life to the bridge, makes me really go all puppy eyes and beg Adywan to please consider it.

Nice with the blue engines on the destroyer in the back as well and the gray metallic colours is cool, its very good now you just miss the stairs.

Not sure if you meant that you prefer vaderio's layout of the 'stairs' or not Ganamae, but if you did, then they wouldn't tie-in so well with the footage of Vader exiting the 'Bridge' at the end, where he seems to step down more 'shorter' stairs like the ones Adywan has shown.