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Great to hear there seems to be a lot of interesting improvements coming our way in the future Jay.  Your continued efforts on this excellent site are very much appreciated.

Not a bad concept there Anchorhead, but I always preferred this one, seeing as it was the first one I ever saw, and the way it fired up my anticipation for the movie at the time.  Still remains a classic piece of artwork -  http://www.solarnavigator.net/films_movies_actors/actors_films_images/star_wars_movie_poster.jpg

(I've got to get me one of those 'lenticular' poster versions available now!)

Also, I ABSOLUTELY gotta go with doubleofive's ace logo suggestion!  Something like that certainly gets my vote.

I'd also like to see SOMETHING describing the site's aims / contents written up on the initial 'homepage' still, though simplified somewhat, to intrigue newcomers into delving further into any links. 

Oh, and I wouldn't be averse to seeing Ripplin's slogan of 'Blu, not Blue!' being part of whatever mission statement is to be the latest campaign.  If they just dish out some freakish colouration on BluRay like they did with the SE DVD release, then it would be hardly worth it.  My 2 cents.

I noticed on the 1080p Episode 1 thread recently, that Ripplin jokingly (I think) suggested a 'Blu, not Blue!' campaign request should be taken up.  But seriously, one of the worst aspects of the SE DVD release was the awful colouration that was evident throughout.

The work that Adywan put into improving it (and continues doing on 'Empire:R' too) has dramatically enhanced things for the better considering the sources he had to use.  Which got me thinking....that although I'm keen to see an eventual better quality, anamorphic release of the Original Trilogy available on BluRay for the masses (GOUT version, with some kind of SE too if they must)....I truly hope that they are not cursed with the often overdarkened, oversaturated colouration issues of the current SE versions!

I don't know who's fault / 'creative decision' it was, but the quality of the SE DVD colouring compared to the originals is distinctly inferior and I fear the worst.  I therefore 'second that motion' by Ripplin!  :)

Darth Venal said:

I just rewatched TESB today and those inconsistent landing platform mattes really irk me now. Damn it I never should have gotten into this fan edit lark!

Yes, the Bespin City backdrops were something that lots of us were looking forward to Adywan hopefully being able to improve on.  Luckily, he seems to have surpassed himself with these particular sequences.

The SE releases were more about commerce than art in the end, and a missed opportunity unfortunately.  But what we are going to get from Adywan is pure art where these shots are concerned, and all his new 'skies' are looking glorious -

http://picasaweb.google.com/doubleofive/ESBRTrailerComparison#5335364938291618306

http://picasaweb.google.com/doubleofive/ESBRTrailerComparison#5335364997078575298

I can't wait to see the improved SLAVE 1 footage too.

Tobar -  The voiceovers at the time of that trailer were ridiculous even back then, lol.  I remember the thrill of seeing the new footage though.  Imagine if the trailer for 'Empire:R' had been seen / heard instead....  (although that wouldn't have been practical for various reasons, but I'm sure you get what I mean from an 'anticipation' point of view, due to it's structure)

TheBoost said:

Just to me (subjectively) the music is too scary and ominous for that scene.

It's always interesting to see what different views everyone here has on different aspects.  Me, I love this particular music enhancement and the fact that the 'officer meeting' scene sounds SO ominous now, compared to before.  The Emperor's 'control of events' is all over this scene now.

And that shot altered to have R2 D2 in front with a RED R2 Unit is another favourite change of mine too!

Those screenshots on page one are still messed up in a strange way unfortunately.  I'm sure they'll be sorted out eventually though.

adywan said:

Maybe next year, after ESB:R is finished, i may do a V2 of ANH:R with a few very minor changes with a commentary track.

This sounds like Adywan might choose to do something extra with it in 2010 , although that still leaves heaps of time for any thoughts from everyone when it comes around.

But it was also cool to see the words 'after ESB:R is finished'.  His work on the next chapter ('Empire') is getting ever closer!

Gotta say that I personally liked the 'praxis ring' for bigger impact overall.

In fact, although I love the enhanced Death Star explosion and recolouration that Adywan came up with, I actually missed the WHOOOSH of the SE impact ring coming towards us, being included in that too!  Some aren't keen on them, but I just happen to think they add to the 'scale' of things somewhat.

Hey, it's neat to get a chance to add to the ANH:R thread about something again!  I like your 'EU' take on Adywan's Battle Droid by the way doubleofive.  :)

adywan said:

The one change that would be happening would be re-adding the spinning starfield.

Well that's two potential changes we now know of already.  We'll follow this ones progress with great interest....

Great to hear that you're currently getting along nicely with your latest opus.  I'm glad you managed to keep that particular SE addition too, as it's a good 'un.

doubleofive said:

Now I give you permission to ruin ANHR for me like you always threatened.  If there's a chance to fix it, bring it on!

Lol, I wouldn't wish to do that in any way for anyone.  The things I have in mind are just subtle bits and pieces anyway that wouldn't detract from anyone's appreciation of ANH:R at all I'm sure.  Although I haven't contributed to the 'after Adywan' thread in any meaningful way previously, nor even read most of it, I know that nothing can spoil this amazing edit for me as it stands overall now.  It still impresses every time I get to see it.

So I'll catch up with that thread fully sometime, to see if anyone happened to mention any of the stuff I've got in mind, or not.

We've probably all seen the 'Empire:R' trailer (linked to on page one of this thread) by now, but in addition to the great screenshots also seen on page one, it's great to see the comparison shot breakdown that doubleofive has also done, which really shows off how terrific this is looking so far.  Thanks for doing that!

It's now linked to in his 'signature', but here it is for any that haven't seen it yet -  http://picasaweb.google.com/doubleofive/ESBRTrailerComparison#

By the way, did everyone see Adywan's 'off the cuff' comment on the ANH:R thread today?....  ;)

Good man doubleofive!  :)  No rush, but I'll be in touch with the details for that sometime.

This is another day that will be long remembered....

adywan said:

Maybe next year, after ESB:R is finished, i may do a V2 of ANH:R with a few very minor changes with a commentary track.

Oh WOW....Star Wars:Revisited:REVISITED! 

Okay, even though that's just a maybe, seeing as I just missed out on finding out about ANH:R in time to contribute any ideas for it the first time round....I hope to get a chance to mention a couple of little extra touches / missed possible 'fixes' for consideration this time round.

doubleofive -  I have a couple of things in mind for a 'mock-up' of the 'Torture Droid' that Adywan wasn't 100% happy with the first time around, if you'd be willing to help me with that sometime....

Hey, some neat stuff there on your alternative Alderaan explosion Darth Venal.  Personally I reckon it would work better without the cut to the planet surface, purely for a quicker denoument overall, which would more closely match the original speed of destruction.  But that's just my own preference at the end of the day.  Nice work.

Adywan's new explosion was one of the highlights of his edit for me, but my ideal version would have included just the single quick shot of the fast approaching shockwave as it engulfs Jar Jar (from his unused version), at a point between the planet being hit by the beam, and it then exploding....heh, heh.  ;)

DF Shadow said:

I guess the most simple way to go about that is simply push it back into the distance so it is less prominent. The "less is more idea".

Having looked at that shot in motion again, I guess it's not a biggie in any way.  It's just something that always seems to overwhelming distract me from everything else that is going on in that brief shot, due to the fact it has a slightly 'rising upwards' movement.

That's certainly an interesting idea you've proposed, but now that I know it was actually an original Ralph McQuarrie element anyway, I've decided it's not going to bug me so much in the future anymore.

doubleofive -  many thanks for sticking those comparison shots up!  :)

Jedi Dark Knight said:

The Return of Imperial Fighter...hahaha much awaited. "Jump down someone's throat" or some "turbolaser firing" is business as usual hehe.

What the heck??!?  lol

HotRod said:

 

That was a joke before you all jump down my throat!!

While some things have changed around here, some others obviously haven't.  ;)

adywan said:

Bribery is one thing i will not tolerate.

And quite right too!  (now about this proposed little draw for a certain 'work in progress', lol...)

Just a reminder to everyone that there's about one month from today for anyone to be in with a chance to get hold of what would be a highly-prized, extra-special 'extra' indeed...the current 'Empire:Revisited' workprint!!  (see page 490 for recent details of how)

Good luck to whoever gets it... as there's already been pure gold done on it so far in the way of enhancements!

After being unavoidably away from here for a while (not jail!) , I've a little catching up to do.  While some are no longer here thanks to turning to the dark side it seems (!), there are also some new faces around.  Hello to those.

Something that I previously intended to bring up has been mentioned recently - the 'floating' element shown above.  I didn't realise that it was supposed to be a 'floating health spa' (!), and I hadn't seen that Ralph McQuarrie artwork of it before either, that Bingowings linked to.  Thanks for that.

Anyway, although I happen to really like this additional SE shot of the Falcon interior and crew (perhaps someone can put the WHOLE screenshot up? -  it seems to be a re-use of one just a little earlier in the approach to Bespin City), I personally always found this 'floating' element in the top left-hand side a HUGE distraction in the overall shot, as the eye is drawn away from everything else....including the more interesting subtle 'Cloud-car' elements that are going on.  Also, it is not seen in any of the subsequent background shots of the City whatsoever.

While I have nothing against the actual element itself, I would have preferred if it had been used in a different shot, rather than making that one so distractingly 'busy'.  Just my own 2 cents on that.

If Adywan keeps the shot as it stands, at least I now know what that 'floating' object actually is!  :)

doubleofive said:

The flight path of Tantive IV has been moved down so the viewer can see it the whole time.  Also, this frame happened to have a bonus bolt!

Thanks for that quick work!  I'll never tire of that great shot enhancement by Adywan.

I never noticed that we were gypped out of that bolt on the SE version (no surprise there then...) although it's barely defined in the GOUT compared to Adywan's excellent colouring.

doubleofive said:

Yeah, ANHR.  I started working on a definitive list of changes a month or so back.  I should pick back up on that.  I got all the way to the beginnings of the Falcon vs TIEs before I stopped.

Hello doubleofive, and that would be most welcome!  :)   

Been absent awhile due to unforeseen circumstances, but I'm interested to get up to speed on certain threads around here again.  I'm interested to see what I've missed...

It would be good to have as comprehensive a list of Adywan's changes and enhancements as possible, and you've made some sterling efforts already -  one of my own personal favourite improvements that I don't recall being mentioned anywhere so far, has to be during the initial opening shot of the 'overhead Stardestroyer', where we now see the 'Blockade Runner' recede FAR FURTHER into the distance in front of the Stardestroyer than we previously did, before the shot changes.

I love that particular alteration, and perhaps sometime you could organise comparison shots of it to include in Part 1 of your excellent ANH:R Visual Comparisons that are linked to in your signature?  Thanks.

There'll be news, when there's some news....  :)

The Golden Idol said:

How do you know this?

A little Imperial Probe Droid told me....

oh_riginal said:

I remember this being mentioned, but I don't remember if Ady confirmed or denied using the idea, but what are the chances of using the ESB DVD menu shot of the Falcon approaching Cloud City? In the menu version the camera pans to follow the Falcon, while in the actual movie it cuts from one angle to the other without panning. I like the menu version a bit better, and its a nice looking shot too, if it could be usable.

Then you'll be glad to know that Adywan has indeed incorporated that 'continuous' shot of the Falcon, and it looks terrific.

Good call on the 'snowspeeder flaps' back there Marlonius, and a neat mock-up too vaderios.  Glad that Adywan is going to take the time to add that idea to some of the cockpit shots, to tie-in with the miniature work.

adywan said:

have i taken on too much? probably , yes, but i know i can do this. The results will be worth it and so much better than sticking with original elements, but its going to take a long time just to get the materials to get started on all this.

Adywan, I absolutely agree that if you can achieve everything that you hope to (mentioned on page 468), that the results WILL be worth it, and I have no doubt that you ARE capable of building things the way you'd like to, once you have all the necessary materials at hand.

While this is a much-anticipated project, I'd far rather wait a lot longer before it's completed, if it means you can perhaps achieve the rest of what you'd ideally hope to do for this edit, rather than see a heavily-compromised version released earlier for the sake of getting it out as soon as possible.  While you've already done a lot of amazing work on this, it is obvious that you have ideas that would make it even more exceptional.

You've already said that a lot of the fun of this endevour is to build this stuff yourself, and I can appreciate that.  If it's going to take a lot longer because of this, then that's just the way it is.  Quality is worth waiting for, and damn the wait.

Good luck, and thanks for that latest update on everything you hope to make / film.  This thing is gonna be AWESOME....

FROM RED TO WED!   ;)