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mrbenja0618 said:

Sheesh... Gotta say, this debate is a bit silly. But, it's cool.

Yup, but there's been many debates on even more trivial stuff too, that's ended up being added.  The subtle stuff counts.

I don't have the disc at hand to check just now, but is the 'outermost ring' of the glass in the widowframe at an 'angle', compared to the rest of the windowframe?  And if it is, would this have any bearing on any 'reflection' of the sabers?  Just wondering.

Also still wondering if there would be any saber 'reflection' seen in that shot where Luke has his back nearest to the window, or not?

DuTwan said:

The only thing that i did like about the reflections of the lightsabers was to make the window actually look more window like than just a frame, i know the glass smashes later on in the scene lol, maybe someone might add a slight shine or reflection of the interior where they are fighting to make the window look more realistic?

Surely the interior 'reflections' seen on the window already do that?

Darth Chronus said:

Holy f**k! That Carbon Freezing Chamber model is awesome! :D 

 Not as 'awesome' as that 'Sith Reunion' one though, lol!

Okay, this latest preview which is aimed squarely at getting the kids interested, has just gone up on the cartoon network.  Some great new footage in it though.  This is definately shaping up to be worth a visit in 3D with my brats -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxuNtDhCZZI

 

-Angel

I originally thought that the 'reflections' of Luke standing on the lit-up floor rectangles seen in the glass window, had been added for the 2004 DVDs when they came out....but on checking the GOUT realised they had always been there.

So I personally like this idea of the sabers being 'reflected' subtly too, especially in the shot when Luke is closer to the window after he's recovered from being hit on the head by a flying object.  (Having said that, I guess all the 'reflections' could be removed from the window instead, alternatively)  Either way, consistency would be good here.

Just how easily seen Luke's 'reflection' currently is, can be seen at the very end of this clip -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf_IthivGgA

brash_stryker said:

I think some people have misunderstood and think I'm the one in the pic Ganamae posted :p

 Whew!  Then who the hell is that poor sod?

adywan said:

 

Yes, i removed the SE flames and added some debris.

Plus i think the shot of the probe emerging from the smoke is a perfect reveal. Very eerie. Fire would just ruin that

Perfect.  It always annoyed me how they added SE 'fire' to the wide shot, but didn't bother to match it with some in the 'close-up' too.  All's well again.

By the way brash_stryker, that's the scariest thing I've seen since Halloween! 

Nanner Split said:

Wait, where/when did this happen?

I briefly noticed that he'd put a thread up here yesterday as Janskeet2, titled 'I'm back!'....

Seems the powers-that-be weren't too exited about the idea though....

Nice extra effort on Luke's saber, Adywan.

Cool mock-up there vaderios, but I think the added SE flames have just been removed now.

I always thought that a bit of that 'casing' seen around the rim in the 'close-up' should be seen in the wide shot also though.

Bonnie Scotland, UK

Avatar said:

i can't believe no one is talking about the new cloud city matte

Lovin' the new composition which shows the outer edge of the city.  And the faint added 'sky traffic' above the skyline is a welcome subtle touch.  Wonderful work.

adywan said:

And I don't know if Adywan can do anything about this too, but doubleofive noticed that there also seems to be some detailing missing from the inside of this leg.  If possible, this would be a neat addition, considering how closely we see it.

thats been fixed

 Awesome!  :)

This 'close-up' of an AT-AT firing was always one of my favourite shots from the battle scenes.

But there's a strange glitch on it's front right leg that's always spoiled it a little.  Here's the shot as it currently looks -

As it's something that I really hope Adywan will sort out, I asked doubleofive to do a couple of 'mock-ups' showing how it should look without the 'jaggedness' (many thanks 005), and his 2nd one below shows how even a 'basic' touch-up would improve this greatly.

And I don't know if Adywan can do anything about this too, but doubleofive noticed that there also seems to be some detailing missing from the inside of this leg.  If possible, this would be a neat addition, considering how closely we see it. 

His 1st 'mock-up' below gives an idea of what's missing, and I've included an example at the bottom of this post -

....and with just the 'jaggedness' removed:

Unfortunately, I couldn't find a clear shot of the top inside front leg details on any other shots in the battle, and any potentially revealing ones were too indistinct due to very dark 'weathering' in that area.

....however, here's a link with the leg detailing clearly seen on the Master Replicas miniature:  http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=/mr/mr-atatpreview-25.jpg

Sevb32 said:

Any plans on having the Tauntaun blink before Han's says "Then I'll see you in hell."

I've got my fingers crossed for one at this point too.

What's already been done to Luke's one near the beginning has improved things a lot.

Thanks for doing that.  :)

It's always interesting to have these comparison shots.

Your 'zoom-in' concept was neat vaderios, but I reckon the (now improved) existing shot establishes a better impact of the 'vast scale' of the vegetation that Luke has landed in, as you can still make out a clearer sense of the surrounding details in it. 

Adywan has mentioned that he is planning on altering the 'angle' of the tiny X-Wing in the shot still, and it will be good to get some consistency with the live-action X-Wing in the shots that follow....since I used to always think that we were seeing the rear of the X-Wing in this shot due to it's wing 'angle', and thought that the 'front lights' seen on the 'prop' had been badly placed here....

It will be good to see this clarified either way.

vaderios said:

Ady since Leia points the executor in the upper section of the cockpit then stylistically and only, the shot should change from perspective POV. Besides that is a wide shot. we should see Leia and chewie :)

-Angel

This was a really good spot vaderios, as Leia does point up at quite an acute angle in the preceding shot.  Your solution looks great, especially the kind of 'angle' you've used for the Executor in your version.

If Adywan wants to keep this cockpit shot as it is (which veers sharply a moment later, showing a blurred starfield and Executor in the distance), I'd like him to consider placing the Executor higher up in the frame at this point.

Ghost said:

So I really hope that Adywan considers adding a 'burn/singe mark' to this shot, roughly where you've placed your top one.

He will be adding scorch marks on the walls in the duel.  He said so in his ESB R change list. 

 Yes, but I'm hoping it will be a single one for the reasons I've given.

vaderios said:

Ady: something you may want to keep in mind with this scene: the light source seems to be on the far right, going by the lighting and shadows on the Executor and its escort.  If that is the case, the underside of Needa's SD should be pretty dark, as opposed to brightly lit, which would suggest a light source underneath.

Let me think about it....

Very quick try this:

-Angel

And this was another nicely done mock-up vaderios.

That was a good call by Monroville on the underside lighting of the overhead Stardestroyer.  I really think that darkening the underside of the Stardestroyer here would look better, as you've shown in your example....even if the 'lights' can't be done.

I'm not sure where your shuttle was coming out from, but am curious to see if Adywan's one eventually exits from the smaller opening nearer the front of the Stardestroyer (as it does in ROTJ), or if it comes out of the bigger opening as Needa's current shuttle does.

 

-Angel

vaderios, this is a very nice touch you've shown here.

However, in the 'longshot' that comes immediately before this shot, it looks like Vader's first swipe at Luke as he comes out of this doorway is outwards , and his blade seems to hit roughly where the 'narrow gap' in the railing is seen.  Vader then takes another swipe at Luke (who ducks), and that seems to be only time the blade hits the doorway exterior.

So I really hope that Adywan considers adding a 'burn/singe mark' to this shot, roughly where you've placed your top one, and perhaps adds something to the railing too.

Some great new things revealed in those recent 'facebook' preview shots!   It's neat to see that Adywan has actually moved Luke's legs closer together so they now tie-in with the position of his 'iced-up' feet.

And I'm also really pleased to see that the lightsaber hilt is going to be buried in a more consistent way during the scene's various shots of it than it currently is!

While minor, these were always annoying 'continuity issues' until now.

And having Yoda (and his blue sack beside him) actually positioned ON the log now immediately after getting off Luke's back, is another terrific fix.  No adding or removing of any shots in that sequence needed after all then!  Perfect.  :)  

HAPPY HALLOWEEN all!  :)

And here's the best recent article on Cameron that I've come across, that gives some interesting insights -  http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/10/26/091026fa_fact_goodyear/?currentPager=all

 Thanks xhonsi, and I've amended it now.

Well, the new, longer theatrical trailer for 'AVATAR' is finally here....

Forget the teaser, and feel the might -  http://www.avatarmovie.com/

And here's the best recent article on Cameron that I've come across, that gives some interesting insights -  http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/10/26/091026fa_fact_goodyear/?currentPager=all

Just wanted to add to the appreciation for the latest helmet fix! 

It was one thing to see a nicely-done, static 'mock-up' of that idea, but it's incredible to know that it's actually been done in the moving footage now.  Marvellous stuff.

As far as new 'skies and mountains' go, every shot previewed so far that has had new backgrounds added, have looked wonderful.  The 'Transport taking off' shot is one whose background I definately hope is enhanced too.  As far as it's colour, I reckon vaderios isn't too far off the mark with his version, considering the look of finished shots in the trailer.  Just look at the 'Ion Cannon' screenshot on page one to see just how 'white' the Hoth scenes are thankfully going to look now!