adywan said:
well i wanted to build a model set mainly because i wanted to be able to do the idea i had of the longer sweeping shot that combines the matte and the following shot of luke. But if it isn't possible to pull that off then i would probably have to do something similar to DE's shot. I wouldn't be using your shot though DE, i would be doing my own version from scratch.
Having loved Darth Editous's version, it was really neat to see your own 'test' preview of the 'zoom-in' towards the 'Vane'/'Pod' adywan. Like DE's, it gives the original matte shot a real sense of life now, and your movement looks tremendous.
However, I'm wondering if your preview means that you aren't doing your original 'model set' idea anymore? Or is that still a possibility? Thing is, if you are now keeping the original matte of the 'Vane'/'Pod' as it is as shown in shot 1 below....does this mean that the current problems will have to remain? Such as where it's outermost edge seems thinner all the way around in shot 1 compared to the 'gradually thickening' towards the base of it in shots 2, 3, and 4....along with the fact that the 'angled' bend of the front top-half as seen in shots 2 and 3 are different to shot 1 too. These issues have been brought up before, but I'm just curious, although your previewed effect is certainly a huge improvement to the way the original shot looks -
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Also, although I remember mentioning ages ago that there were 3 sets of lights under the 'Vane'/'Pod' in shot 4 compared to only 2 sets under it in shot 1, I've also now realised that the 'long extending arm' in shot 4 is actually much shorter than it should be compared to when we first see it in shot 1 too. Not sure if you are going to alter any of this much now or not adywan, but time will tell.
Okay, something I want to put my hands up to looking at wrongly in the past is to do with this scene below. It concerns when Luke follows Vader from the 'Carbon Chamber'.... For a long time now I've been convinced that better continuity could be achieved by merely moving up the 'long extending arm' leading to the 'Vane'/'Pod' in shot 1....to better match the level of the the round window when Luke exits the tunnel....to give the impression that Luke and Vader had initially come along the 'long extending arm' from the direction of the 'Carbon Chamber' which was imagined to be located somewhere in the 'surrounding wall' of the 'Vane'/'Pod'....instead of inside the 'Vane'/'Pod' itself....
However, I just wanted to mention my error in that idea, as I've only just realised that the tunnel that Luke exits beside is on the wrong side of the round window in the interior set for this to work! The tunnel exit is actually on the left-hand side of the frame in shots 10 and 11, when it would need to be on the other side for this idea to work properly with the outside views of the window as seen in the likes of shot 1, 2, and 3.... Oops. No names mentioned, but I seem to remember I wasn't the only one at the time to think this was the obvious answer to solve the 'Carbon Chamber' size problems being situated inside the 'Vane'/'Pod', lol -
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....so I guess I'm actually okay now with the current footage as being a kind of 'jump ahead in time' to where Luke initially enters the tunnel as it stands now, which gives the impression that there was some sort of way down from the supposed 'Carbon Chamber' above, that led to the start of the short, lit-up tunnel route.
Seems everyone must have somehow reached into the 'Carbon Chamber' nearer the top of the 'Vane'/'Pod' by another way after all....
One last thing, in shots 10 and 11 the 'grate' that closed behind Luke in front of the tunnel exit in shots 7 and 8 seems to be missing now....
