ImperialFighter

Monroville said:

 

One thing that I was really tense over was those scenes I mentioned earlier regarding the last ALIEN dvd release (concerning the "Brett looking for Jonesy in the cargo room" and most of the Alien scenes - the prior had a copper wash over the entire image and most if not all of the Alien scenes had a desaturated blue wash over the image). 

Thankfully, Ridley must have reconsidered these changes, as the copper and blue tints are gone, and ALIEN looks proper with a natural color timing.

Great!  I really must get a hold of the blu-ray set after all, now you've confirmed that the more 'natural'-looking colour of the previous releases has been restored somewhat to the 'theatrical' cut of ALIEN.  That's made my day! :)

Regarding the very interesting ALIEN REDUX:THE VIRTUAL WORKPRINT (alternatively known as ALIEN APPENDIX #2), I agree that the short shot of Kane's legs struggling violently was really neat.  Pity it was cut from the final version.  There's a few other really nice little shots that I wished Ridley had used in his 'theatrical' cut to begin with, including a brief couple from his 'Director's Cut', but there you go.  And just to repeat that all the other ALIEN APPENDIX material can be accessed on the newly re-vamped Fanedit.org site by going into the Preserv heading on the home page, then going to the Artists section on the right-hand side that comes up.  Remember to click on the 'Older Posts' that come up at the bottom of some of these featured faneditor's lists, as there's a lot more to be found on other pages.

And I note that Ridley Scott has moved from potentially doing 2 ALIEN prequels, to making something that only 'references' his original ALIEN in certain small ways.  It will be interesting to see just what he has up his sleeve now with his 'PROMETHEUS' movie, and I wonder if the 'space jockey' is going to end up remaining a mystery after all...

http://www.deadline.com/2011/01/ridley-scott-directing-prometheus-for-fox-noomi-rapace-locked-while-angelina-jolie-and-charlize-theron-circling-2nd-female-lead/ 

I'm kinda nervous about the Angelina Jolie possibility, however...

Harmy said

 

I really hope he does that, I was checking ANH:R right now and comparing it to Ady's AVCHD colours and ANH:R looks almost black and white compared to the AVCHD colours, which was also corrected by Adywan and the colours there are beautiful IMO, so it would be great if he took the same approach to the colour correction as he did with the AVCHD.

 

 

And also, as it seems my previous post got kinda lost, how about only making a selectable soundmix, which wouldn't feature the added music?

 The Aluminium Falcon said:

I agree with you.  The AVCHD colours do look much better; Revisited seems a bit too desaturated.

One of the things I personally loved about 'Star Wars:Revisited' was it's somewhat 'stylized' colouration when it came to the 'Death Star's interior sets.  It's deliberately 'grey' pallette was certainly a big improvement over the SE dvd colours, and I thought it really suited the look of the 'Death Star'.

However, when adywan eventually gets around to his next version of it in a few years, it seems he will indeed be re-colouring certain things differently, as he mentions in this interview which you may have missed - http://doubleofive.wordpress.com/ganamaes-interview-with-adywan/

I haven't seen the AVCHD, but the comparison shot above looks good too, and I'm sure things will look terrific, whatever is done.  As far as the added music during the Vader/Ben duel was concerned...I'd have to say that it was one of my absolute favourite enhancements to his edit, and a very bold idea.  I see there's been recent suggestions for different versions of that music to be used instead, and I can see how that might be equally good too...but mainly I just love the fact that there was such a neat piece of music used over the scene in the first place. 

According to that interview above, it seems that adywan is considering going back to silence during the duel.  Time will tell, but I always loved how most of the movie seemed to be filled with John Williams score throughout so much of it, and I reckon this scene benefits from having some too.  After being used to hearing how things sound in 'Revisited' for so long, I just find the original scene lacking without a musical accompanyment now.

Just my own 2 cents on that. 

Radi0n said:

I definitely like Monro's idea.
Sounds natural as is, and that's what it should have looked like, judging from Luke's split second reaction. 

I quite like the idea of this right-arm 'swipe' too, for the 'replacement' Wampa shot.  I'm curious to see if adywan keeps to more of a 'forward lunge' with both claws, as in the original, or not.  I guess the shot that comes immediately after that shot will help to determine it's posture in the shot before it.  I don't have a screenshot at hand for after the Wampa's 'lunge forward', but if you watch the footage, we then see the left-hand side/and back of the Wampa in front in 'close-up' nearest to us, as Luke goes to make his sudden strike with his lightsaber.  Can't wait for the 'behind-the-scenes' Wampa details on the 'extras' disc!

adywan said:

As i have said before, i tried to place the background building in the correct position in respect to the previous SE shot but it really screwed with the flow of the composite.  I've added a 3D zoom into this shot and i love the way it turned out.  You need to see it in motion really.

I meant to say that this recent 'Bespin' screenshot is looking awesome with it's new CGI, clouds, roof detail, background buildings, and additional tiny cloud-car traffic in the distance.  Looking forward to seeing the '3D zoom' on this eventually.  Great stuff! :)

Asteroid-Man said:

Ady, is there a benefit to going 720 rather than 1080?

 I think he gave an indication of why on the previous page Asteroid-Man.

The Golden Idol said:

Here's a bit of an odd question, and I don't think it's been addressed previously:

When Luke's hand is cut off, his lightsaber shuts off as it (along with his hand) falls out of view. However, shouldn't it stay on? I don't think his severed hand shut it off on the way down the mine shaft. lol

Okay TGI, just for fun, here's my own take on this whole lightsaber issue, since you've brought it up - 

Firstly, I don't look on Liam Neeson's jokey, 'simplified' explanation in that Youtube clip as being accurate...as I don't like to think that the 'on'/'off' button on the handle *must* be pressed first whenever we see someone suddenly disarmed of a lightsaber that's then seen to 'switch off'.  That's not a very plausible explanaion.

What I prefer to think is that the 'on'/'off' button is just used whenever someone is wanting to 'switch off' their blade whenever they are done using it...and still in control of it, holding it.  And this includes Han.  And the button doesn't need to be held 'on'...but merely switched 'on' and 'off' when required.

But whenever we see an instance of a lightsaber being suddenly released from someone's grip, such as when Luke's one drops onto the gantry after he crashes through the 'Vane' window...or when Ben's one drops after he 'disappears' at the end of the duel with Vader...then there is just *some kind* of automatic 'safety' cut-off that then immediately kicks in, when it's released/dropped from someone's grip.

So what about this example you've brought up, where Luke's lightsaber is technically still *in the grip* of his lopped-off hand?  Well, the actual footage shows a large spray of sparks when this happens, due to Vader's lightsaber making contact with Luke's one at the same time as it cuts his hand off...so I always just look on Luke's lightsaber as being severely 'damaged' at this point, and that's why we see it 'shut off' in this particular instance...even though his hand is still holding it at this point!

However, when we see Vader throw his lightsaber at Luke, I just look on this as being an instance where he deliberately uses his 'Force' powers to keep his lightsaber fully-activated when he releases it...over-riding it's automatic 'safety' cut-off... 

ALTERNATIVELY, it can be equally *imagined* that it's possible to make the blade stay actived on releasing the lightsaber...if you deliberately press it to do so using, say, a quick 'double press' of the 'on'/'off' button, or something similar that allows it to...

Hope that helps a little.

Ripplin said:

I think Chewie's feet were "fixed" long ago*, but I could be mistaken.  I just checked the first post, thinking it had things that have been finished scratched off, but it doesn't.  Where am I thinking off?

I may be wrong Ripplin, but you could be thinking of GoodMusician's 'Suggestion Terminal' thread, where I started to gather a few things together myself at one point - 

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Adywans-ESB-edit-Suggestion-Terminal/post/387491/#TopicPost387491

I don't recall anything about a fix concerning Chewie's 'feet' being on it though...but I still hope to get around to adding a whole heap more of everyone's past/future suggestions to that, for easy reference for myself and others, sometime.

Ghostbusters said:

What frustrates me about all this is how long it is taking.

What do you expect?  The kind of quality work that adywan is doing on the original trilogy, and the sheer amount of it that is being done...takes time.

And as far as your recent comments on the ESB:R thread...as he previously stated, patience is needed for him to get around to replying to certain PM's too, considering everything that's going on in his life at present.  I'm amazed that he finds the time to actually take the time to reply to any PM's in the first place, considering the demands on his time these days.  I've no doubt that he gets heaps of them.

adywan said:

With the PT only being 720p so i can alter the portion of the frame that is seen, doing ROTJ:R in 720p would probably be a better option so that the whole saga is consistent. Plus this would give me a better option of using footage from the theatrical versions 9 unless a miracle happens and we get a theatrical version blu-ray or footage)so i can replace that god damn hayden monstrosity at the end.

I'm relieved you're leaning towards the 720p option now adywan, for the reasons you've outlined.  Consistency is good, and 720p is plenty of high quality, at the end of the day.

DMaarten said:

Oh if only there was a timemachine so we didn't have to wait 3 decades for the complete saga :)

I'd be surprised if adywan intended slaving over these for another 30 years yet...  As much as I'm keen to see what he eventually does to the prequels, I'm sure glad he started with the original trilogy!

skyjedi2005 said:

So i must be the only one in the world who has never owned a copy of revisited despite watching clips on youtube.  I had a question about this and Empire strikes back did Adywan fix the problem with the garbage mattes?

Absolutely, and you really need to try and get a hold of the dual-layer version of 'Star Wars Revisited' to appreciate the full glory of how things look (and sound) on his edit.

PaulisDead2221 said:

Have you found any use for cloud tank effects?  

They composite easily with a luma key and could be a great resource for nebula and other cosmic phenomena.

 

Gotta say that one of the best things about adywan's edits is the improved look of his starfields.  But this kind of effect is not one that I'd like to see done to the original trilogy's style of starfields, personally speaking.

adywan said:

There will be some differences because i can't recreate it 100% faithfully but it will be as close as possible.  But i won't be taking any suggestions for changes/ fixes for the HD version

adywan, I'm delighted that you've decided you'd like to do this one day, after all.  And while things are bound to end up looking a little different in places compared to the current edit...it's going to be an absolute treat to see some of the things that you hope to improve on, when you eventually get around to your 'Star Wars Revisited:Special Edition' HD version in a few years time.  And I hope you'll keep some of the specific details under wraps as usual! ;)

I certainly understand why you wouldn't want to open the floodgates to all the old issues of 'Star Wars Revisited' being brought up again, while your concentrating on the rest of the trilogy first...and since you already know what you want to include anyway.  However, I discovered the current edit just a little too late to be able to offer a few additional issues that were never brought up beforehand...and although I've never mentioned them to yourself or anyone else, I sure hope to get the opportunity to go into them at *some* future point, this time around, to see what you reckon.

Plenty of time before any of that though, as there's lots of other 'revisited' goodness to concentrate on for now...

TV's Frink, re:your new 'The Frink Thread Index'.  I look forward to having all those listings organised in one place for easy reference. :)

I was about to say so there, but realised that  maybe you should 'reserve' just a couple more post spaces in case you need them, before someone breaks things up with a comment...as I don't know if you'll exceed the 'character limit' with any of your link lists, or not. 

STAR WARS ** EP IV 2004 ** REVISITED ** ADYWAN ** 720p HD version coming 2016 **

Wait...what?!?

As if you haven't spoiled us all already. 

ImperialFighter said:

Unless of course, I've assumed too much again...  ;)

I'm guessing you missed this bit Warb?...

Sluggo said:

EyeShotFirst said:

Jar Jar Binx is gonna step in the sh*t in HD!!!

Fixed.

Lol, quoted for truth...unfortunately. 

TV's Frink said:

You know you want to dance.

 

 Always! :)

Bingowings said:

Maybe you have.

 I'll get ma coat...

TV's Frink said:

People don't like my FrinkFest 1.

I find that kind of sad.

What do they know?  I liked it.  :)

Warbler said:

I'm done talking with Bingowings.  I'm putting him on ignore.

Okay, this is killing me Warb, as I think you may have missed my recent comment here about how I'd made the same wrong assumption as you and others.  Thing is, Bingo is actually...a 'she', just so you know.

From page 80 of this very thread -

Bingowings said:

On Christmas Eve I got a call from the better half telling me the water had gone off.

He had called a plumber who suggested trying the thaw out the pipe with an hair dryer and since we don't have such a device he had popped over to next door to borrow one.

Unless of course, I've assumed too much again...  ;)

My latest pet hate are links to sites that won't let you immediately see the info. you're interested in...without first making you endure some lengthy dumbass 'embedded' advert first!  Stop this trend NOW!!

Also, it's been neat catching up with a lot of the new stuff that's been done over at the newly re-vamped Fanedit.org site in the last few days.  Good stuff. 

Warbler said:

Fortunately,  as the owner of the website,  I had access to the files and was able to unban myself.    I of course went in and immediately  banned Dayv.   I didn't give him access to the files, so he was not able to unban himself.

 Awesome Warb.  I certainly lol'd at this!

Gaffer Tape said:

Have I mentioned I hate YouTube commenters?  I guess I've been spoiled by the wonderful people who comment on my own videos, but I venture for one second outside of those calm waters and into complete idiocy...

Agreed!  It was a nightmare trying to find decent quality clips that I could link to in my 'movie trailer showcase' thread...which weren't cluttered with swear-littered lunacy from argumentative commenters. 

In a lot of cases, I was able to find versions that had been recently uploaded...and therefore had no comments attached yet.  Unfortunately, it wasn't possible to find every trailer clip in such a 'pristine' state...and there's always the possibility that some of the links I've used already have now been tagged with comments that lower the tone in general, lol.

Which reminds me, I must get around to adding to that sometime soon. 

Harmy said:

He's the guy who offered Lucas that if he gave him the materials to work with, he'd restore the OOT for free.

Does anyone happen to know if RAH ever confirmed if GL took up his offer, or not?

I'm sure I can organise the set(s?) you want, from over here, if you'd like.

You'd need to PM me the particular site you're looking at (Royalmail.co.uk ?), and your details to forward them.

Interesting to note that they're 'motion' stamps - a first, I believe.

I'm really pleased that Gerry Anderson is actively involved with another tv project at this stage in his life. :)  He didn't say, but I'm guessing it'll be another 'CGI' effort, like his 'Captain Scarlet' update was. 

none said:

Add in a snappy new title, and i'd agree with Duchamp, you've got a new work

And I'd say that the 2004 'STAR WARS:A New Hope - Special Edition' did indeed come across as a 'new work' in many respects.  Not that I was against that, if that's what GL wanted to do at some point.  That was fair enough, and was certainly of some interest, whether you ended up appreciating all his latest 'creative changes', or not.  Personally, I reckon adywan's 'new work' kicks it's ass in comparison.

But what I certainly didn't expect to happen, was a complete disregard for the much-loved 'original work' known as 'STAR WARS' (or 'STAR WARS:A New Hope' if you must) by GL.  The one that smashed box-office records to become the number one movie of all-time, on it's release.  And by default, I didn't expect a complete disregard to properly preserve the work of others that were involved in it (and it's sequels) either...especially from someone who had a reputation for being at the forefront of technical excellence, and who claimed to have a keen interest in the preservation of cinema history.

Of course, the current poor treatment of the 'original works' could just be a misunderstanding on our part, as we may find that they've actually been faithfully preserved in something approaching their original look after all...and will be released in a respectful, high quality standard eventually, after all.  In the meantime, it's difficult to believe that, sadly.  

none said:

Being able to listen and ask questions to the people who did the actual work, seems like a unique event, which we'll most likely not get again, proceed cautiously, please.

The idea that their monitors are a different class then the TVs in most people's homes, provides another wrinkle to how the films look different dependent upon the equipment you use.

 Sure...although it certainly doesn't explain how they ended up re-colouring the 2004 SE releases so drastically differently to what they looked like originally.

Bingowings said:

...On Christmas Eve I got a call from the better half telling me the water had gone off.

He had called a plumber who suggested trying the thaw out the pipe with an hair dryer and since we don't have such a device he had popped over to next door to borrow one.

 

 

...I do hope it doesn't snow again.

I don't normally wander in here, but I've just read a few of the latest additions, and sympathise with your Christmas drama Bingowings, as it must have been a real hassle at the time.  I didn't realise till now that you were actually...a gal!  ...unless I've somehow managed to pick up the wrong end of the stick, lol.  Anyway, I agree that it will be good to see the back of the snow here in Scotland.  I'm sick of thinking I've been stranded on 'Hoth'!

Ripplin said:

Good Find!  The unseen sister 'Booba Fette', obviously.

Anyway, I just wanted to flag up the fact that the Fanedit.org site seems to have been given a nice overhaul since the start of the year, since I last checked in there a few months ago.  The team have done a good job since Boon decided to give up the reigns last year, sometime.

It's good to see that you only need a single password to register and get onto the Faneditforums there now, as you used to require a seperate password to access those.  However, just in case you're not aware yet, any previous members will need to re-register with Fanedit.org now, since this upgrade to the site.

There's a host of new changes and topics to read through, but just to let anyone here know easily, without searching around...once you've re-registered, you can then re-upload your previous 'avatar' by going to Settings at the top of the homepage, then go to My Settings on the left of the page that comes up, then click on Edit Avatar beneath.  Or if you can't find your original 'avatar' pic to do so, you can contact the site directly for them to re-upload it for you from their end.

And you can pick up from any topics you left off in the past, by going to My Profile, then Find all posts on the left of the page that comes up.  Which will come in handy for me...  :)

*BREAKING NEWS* - just as I've typed this, Gerry Anderson has given a news item about a set of stamps that the UK Post Office is producing, which mark some of the various shows he's been involved in.  Well he's just said that he is officially involved with an all-new 'Thunderbirds' show, that's coming.  Great stuff!