Although it's not actual footage from the movie, that's a very interesting viral.
I've seen it reported that it was filmed by Ridley Scott's son, rather than Ridley himself.
Here's the official viral site - http://blog.ted.com/TED2023/
Wouldn't be a bad thing if certain posts on this page were removed altogether, I reckon...
adywan said:
ctlw83 said:
Hey, for those who are "in the know" so to speak, I'm just curious about something. In the ESB revisit, how many effect shots have been re-done/enhanced with new models, new people, etc? Basically, how much "new" footage has been needed to correct the mistakes of old and/or to enhance existing scenes?
Personally, I have always been interested in videography but, just don't have much time/money to pursue it anymore.
I would hate to start counting them just yet, but you will be able to see just how many have been replaced with the visual changes guide that will be on the blu-ray and DVD.
Nice to see that you're planning adding a 'visual changes guide' to your actual edit, now. That will really show anyone who sees your versions just how much work you've put into these. Mind you, there's gonna be a heck of a lot to fully list come the time ESB:R is done!
adywan said:
I've added the new fuller change list to the first post and this includes a list of which versions will be available.
Good to see an update on your very first post regarding *some* of those things on the changes list.
adywan said:
All the TIES have been tinted with the same settings. The shade would vary depending on the lightings, which is why they may look slightly different.
Thanks for clarifying this. That makes sense. :)
And I never noticed that you'd 'shadowed' half of the Executor's underside to match the distant shot of it, until you showed this comparison - http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/108835 A nice tweak there.
adywan said:
Shortly before the release of ESB:R, a Revisited Complete Saga trailer will be released.
I've also noticed that you've added this to the bottom of your very first post as well now.
Awesome! :)
Alas, poor Yoda...we knew him well...
(and that sure wasn't him in that glass case)
But thankfully, adywan is bringing him back.
Perhaps many 'new recruits' were just 'drafted' by 'the Empire' without a say in the matter?...
...and if that was Palpatine's method to strengthen his reach, then shiny blue makeovers wouldn't have been used to bring them on board in the first place... ;)
Monroville said:
video posted February 5, 2012:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0Z1dsAerm0
Notice that the TIEs are not just blue but are the same exact color as the 2004 dvd ... thus the issue is still relevant.
At the risk of keeping this one going even longer, lol...only *some* of adywan's TIEs seem to be the same exact colour of the blu-ray shots seen in the latest preview.
But as I mentioned in my 2nd post on the previous page, there seems to be a noticeably 'greyer' colouration to the 'Revisited' ones seen during the comparison shot of the close-up of the Executor's underbelly, compared to some of his other shots...so I'm not sure if that's meant to look like that, or not.
Stick that Youtube comparison clip on full-screen at it's highest quality to see what I mean. Pause it if you have to, for a clearer look.
ImperialFighter said:
I happened to catch something on t.v. this morning called the 'A-Z Of Star Wars Episode I:T4 Movie Special' which was shown on Channel 4 here in the U.K.
It was basically a 35 mins. long, slightly irreverent, tongue-in-cheek preview for the release of TPM3D.
It also showed numerous behind-the-scenes clips as well as various OT scenes to remind us of those too, and a quick look at some 501st members also.
I'm not sure if this is available to those based outside the U.K., but those that are here *might* be able to 'catch up' with this online tomorrow onwards.
Turns out that this recent t.v. special *is* available on Channel 4's 'catch-up' site now after all, although I'm still not sure if those outside the U.K. are able to watch it or not. So here's the link to view it now, after one or two adverts at the start - http://www.channel4.com/programmes/a-z-of-star-wars-episode-i-t4-movie-special/4od#3288781
zombie84 said:
Pretty lukewarm, so far. The first was glad that the 3D wasn't over-the-top, but felt it had some technical issues, and still found the movie highly problematic. The second one isn't crazy about the movie, but enjoys having a Star Wars film on the big screen, but ultimately feels the 3D conversion itself is poor.
Have to say that the way I read that second review link that adywan posted, it seemed to regard it a pretty good overall effort for a 2D-3D 'conversion'.
As far as the 'depth' of 3D balance goes though, it seems from this exlusive 'Episode I 3D Conversion' featurette that George doesn't like 3D That 'comes out at you' from the screen (!)...so I wonder just *how* subtle and 'window'-like the effect is throughout that he's gone for - http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/star-wars-episode-i-the-phantom-menace/trailers/star-wars-episode-i-featurette-3d-coversion-28213694.html
Will there be *any* elements that pop out towards us during certain moments at all to wow the young 'uns, or will it all be like looking 'into the distance through a window'? Either way, not long now to find out...
Here's the latest promo that was shown during the Superbowl - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRaSV2pknTg
Certainly gives the impression that the whole saga will end up being released in 3D no matter what the box-office of this first one...
I happened to catch something on t.v. this morning called the 'A-Z Of Star Wars Episode I:T4 Movie Special' which was shown on Channel 4 here in the U.K.
It was basically a 35 mins. long, slightly irreverent, tongue-in-cheek preview for the release of TPM3D.
It also showed numerous behind-the-scenes clips as well as various OT scenes to remind us of those too, and a quick look at some 501st members also.
I'm not sure if this is available to those based outside the U.K., but those that are here *might* be able to 'catch up' with this online tomorrow onwards.
If nothing else, I'm looking forward to seeing how the 'STAR WARS' logo looks in this format before things move onto 'taxation routes' etc., but I just wish that George hadn't included 'chapter numbers' on these things, as he might have started off with the 3D release of the OT in the first place...
"What a piece of junk!"
Bingowings said:They are running banners across Ebay Uk I notice.
Yeah, I just noticed that too. And here's the trailer page those banners are linking to - http://www.ebay.co.uk/starwars
Well, we'll be able to to judge how successful this particular 'conversion' has turned out soon, as there's only a few more days to go now before this thing is released on the 'big screen' once again...
Despite my numerous issues with this instalment in general and it not being the specific cut I'd prefer of it, I'm curious to see how it looks in 3D overall, regardless. And since I've deliberately held off checking out the blu-ray version so far, I'll at least have the new CGI'd YODA moments to look out for this time around.
Anyway, since these recent 'official' posters haven't been put up here yet, here they are -
Monroville said:
I remember ImpFighter... then he changed his mind again and said they would go back to grey.
Really?, then I guess I missed that.
However, having had a chance to have a closer look at the clip, it seems to me as if the 'Revisited' colour of the standard TIEs actually varies in certain shots of this preview. It looks as if it's the exact shade of blue as the existing SE version in some shots, and slighty less so in others. But there's quite a lean towards a greyer TIE colouring during the shot of the close-up of the 'Executor's underside. To be honest, I kinda like the shade in that particular shot the best, but pause the comparison to see what I mean.
I'm sure adywan will confirm about this either way, when he gets a chance.
Asaki said:
When you think about it, the "wolfman" hand is wrong in more than one way.
It's his left arm that got severed, but that's a right hand, isn't it?
Nicely noticed! According to those behind-the-scenes shots, it's the left arm that got chopped, but in the movie we see a right ('Wolfman') hand attached.
Ah well, at least we didn't end up seeing any shots of the 'Walrus' guy's body with his left arm lopped off, or things would have ended up *really* confusing!
adywan said:
Oh and here is the second clip:
And thanks for this one too! :)
Looks awesome, with lots of great touches. I'll be back with a couple of points about this one when I've got more time, but will need to study it more.
Monroville and The Golden Idol, you must have missed the memo where it was decided to stick to the overall TIE colour seen in ESB, after all. If I remember right, adywan ended up thinking they stood out better from everything else if kept that colour...and is intending to actually ADD this colour to the ones in his next version of STAR WARS:REVISITED instead!
I kinda seem to recall that they were going to be a shade in-between the grey and what we see here though, but I must be mistaken. Perhaps he'll clarify this at some point. The work looks terrific however.
Some interesting answers there Lorne, which helps to make sense of things better. Welcome aboard!
Although I've come across these 'behind-the-scenes' shots of 'Walrus' guy and 'Freaky nose' before, I've only just realised that there are actually 2 blasters shown in them! Can't believe I never picked up on that properly before.
To be honest, I'm glad that the production went with the 'Wolfman' hand for my initial viewing of the movie, as the 'flipper' may have come over as looking a little ridiculous to me when it came to 'holding' the blaster that lay beside it. The initial 'push' on Luke by the 'Walrus' guy goes by pretty quickly, and no-one would have really picked up on the fact that it was a different hand at the time. Only in subsequent re-watches would anyone notice. And although the actual footage used doesn't seem to show a clear shot of 'Walrus' guy holding a blaster before Obi-wan swipes, I'm pleased to see that it seems like he *did*, after all!
I could never understand why the 'wrong person's arm was used when I rewatched the movie over the years, but at least these photos help make sense of it better now, considering they *both* were about to use a blaster, it seems!
However, I'll always prefer adywan's 'Revisited' version now, since that's the only arm we actually see raising a blaster in the movie.
Nice to see that alternate 'cantina bar' footage again, doubleofive - I always wished that the neat wide shot of the interior at the beginning of the clip where Obi-wan enters, had been used, as well as the shot of the 'giant fly-headed'(!) alien, and when the Sandtroopers actually enter the premises. I always liked those ones.
Bingowings said:
If you look through the gap in the vines as Luke is turning away you can see where there should have been blue swamp fog there is tan.
Yeah, I really love how this has been altered to match the colour of the rest of the 'swamp fog' now. Great job on that.
The whole preview was another triumph throughout as far as I'm concerned (you ended up posting the clip at exactly the time I was mentioning it doubleofive, lol!)...but damn, it ended *just* before my favourite shot in the whole 'Falcon approach'! - I was willing it on for another second or two to reveal the moment we actually then see 'Cloud City' in the distance...as I'm really looking forward to seeing what that particular shot looks like now.
Anyway, glad to see the removal of the 'floating' debris' that's in front of Slave I now, which is moving backwards towards it for some reason in the current version...and seems to appear out of nowhere compared to the shot before! And nice to see the lack of 'blue-spill on the close-up of Fett too, as Bingowings also mentioned.
Good to see the 'rusty red' panels of Slave I itself now too. And Yoda's looking great here again, with his single added 'blink' nicely timed. The moment that ray_afraid mentioned, where he now turns to look *towards* Luke when he falls is a particular highlight for me...as it's always niggled me how his head kinda 'jerks' towards the wrong direction when this happens! The 'cloud' shots all look great too, and the subtly-different flight-paths of the 'Pod-cars' and Falcon seen in one or two of them look terrific.
Amazing stuff as always. Thanks for the preview adywan!
Really looking forward to seeing how the miniature tree replacements end up looking in the 2 shots that adywan's confirmed they're intended for -
But the really big news over on the Facebook front is that a new clip is imminent...
One that's 100% complete on the video side, and that will be along shortly! Yay! :)
Here's a look at the new 'International' poster which has been released now (at bottom), which is slightly different to the previous 2 versions -
doubleofive said:
And thanks for the kind words about me. :-)
And I think you're great too! :)
elvin peterson said:
I did the severed walrus arm shot along with Gary Kurtz in early 1977. Several days before we were to do the insert Gary brought the sleeve with him but not the correct hand.
Much thanks for all that info. elvin.
Couple of questions -
Gary Kurtz brought it several days before the shot? Did neither of you notice at the time, or was it not possible to organise the correct hand during that time?
Also, although it looks to me like Obi-wan swipes twice in the footage, why was the 'Walrus Guy's arm shown on the floor in the first place rather than 'Freaky Nose's human-like arm, considering 'Freaky Nose' had been the one who was actually holding the blaster in the first place?...
And if you've seen adywan's 'Revisited' version (in motion preferably), what do you think of it?
Oops, was typing some comments to 'save in draft' here, but posted them by accident!
Move along.
Moth3r said:
I've received a PM from Angel explaining why certain IP addresses match.
I'm now satisfied that Angel and Nebula are, in fact, two different people.
I've asked Jay to unban Nebula
Ah, so 'Nebula' wasn't a 'sock' account then, just someone new after all.
'Angel' would be right to be miffed about that mix-up, so I hope he'll take it in his stride.
Although this proposal has been deferred in it's current form, I've previously read about a sneaky device that the 'powers-that-be' in the U.S. use to push their agendas through sometimes - it's known as a 'PAPERCLIP CLAUSE', and it means that certain legislation that's been difficult to pass on it's own, could eventually have it's substance 'subtly included' into another internet-related bill proposal. A proposal that just happens to be one that politicians across the board will find reasonable to vote for/difficult to vote against.
The upshot is that the public is not as aware of the implications this time around, and the politicians end up also voting through this previously discredited aspect by default. And some initally opposed politicians could unwittingly vote for the 'main' proposal without realising the full ramifications of the complete wording on the bill.
And you can bet that law enforcement will be encouraged to crack down harder on the 'subtly included' agenda, rather than the 'main' aspect of the bill that was supposedly the target in the first place, once the powers are available.
So if the 'powers-that-be' again don't get their way on their eventual 'amended' SOPA/PIPA proposals (which will be back sooner rather than later) in future, then I've no doubt they'll try to use this method to get things 'through the back door' instead.
Having said that, with the way that 'Megaupload' was dealt with, it seems there's plenty of fire-power that existing U.S. laws already have anyway...
But wouldn't this subject be more suited to the 'off-topic' section, regardless?
So 'Angel' (formerly 'Vaderios') turned out to be the disgruntled 'Nebula' on the ESB:R thread then?
Disappointing. And I'm surprised if he thought it would go un-noticed, lol.