ImperialFighter

Monroville said:

I remember ImpFighter... then he changed his mind again and said they would go back to grey.

Really?, then I guess I missed that.

However, having had a chance to have a closer look at the clip, it seems to me as if the 'Revisited' colour of the standard TIEs actually varies in certain shots of this preview.  It looks as if it's the exact shade of blue as the existing SE version in some shots, and slighty less so in others.  But there's quite a lean towards a greyer TIE colouring during the shot of the close-up of the 'Executor's underside.  To be honest, I kinda like the shade in that particular shot the best, but pause the comparison to see what I mean.

I'm sure adywan will confirm about this either way, when he gets a chance.

Asaki said:

When you think about it, the "wolfman" hand is wrong in more than one way.

It's his left arm that got severed, but that's a right hand, isn't it?

Nicely noticed!  According to those behind-the-scenes shots, it's the left arm that got chopped, but in the movie we see a right ('Wolfman') hand attached.

Ah well, at least we didn't end up seeing any shots of the 'Walrus' guy's body with his left arm lopped off, or things would have ended up *really* confusing!

adywan said:

 

Oh and here is the second clip:

http://hotfile.com/dl/143871694/e7dfef2/clip_2.rar.html

And thanks for this one too! :)

Looks awesome, with lots of great touches.  I'll be back with a couple of points about this one when I've got more time, but will need to study it more.

Monroville and The Golden Idol, you must have missed the memo where it was decided to stick to the overall TIE colour seen in ESB, after all.  If I remember right, adywan ended up thinking they stood out better from everything else if kept that colour...and is intending to actually ADD this colour to the ones in his next version of STAR WARS:REVISITED instead!

I kinda seem to recall that they were going to be a shade in-between the grey and what we see here though, but I must be mistaken.  Perhaps he'll clarify this at some point.  The work looks terrific however.

Some interesting answers there Lorne, which helps to make sense of things better.  Welcome aboard!

Although I've come across these 'behind-the-scenes' shots of 'Walrus' guy and 'Freaky nose' before, I've only just realised that there are actually 2 blasters shown in them!  Can't believe I never picked up on that properly before.

To be honest, I'm glad that the production went with the 'Wolfman' hand for my initial viewing of the movie, as the 'flipper' may have come over as looking a little ridiculous to me when it came to 'holding' the blaster that lay beside it.  The initial 'push' on Luke by the 'Walrus' guy goes by pretty quickly, and no-one would have really picked up on the fact that it was a different hand at the time.  Only in subsequent re-watches would anyone notice.  And although the actual footage used doesn't seem to show a clear shot of 'Walrus' guy holding a blaster before Obi-wan swipes, I'm pleased to see that it seems like he *did*, after all! 

I could never understand why the 'wrong person's arm was used when I rewatched the movie over the years, but at least these photos help make sense of it better now, considering they *both* were about to use a blaster, it seems!

However, I'll always prefer adywan's 'Revisited' version now, since that's the only arm we actually see raising a blaster in the movie.

Nice to see that alternate 'cantina bar' footage again, doubleofive - I always wished that the neat wide shot of the interior at the beginning of the clip where Obi-wan enters, had been used, as well as the shot of the 'giant fly-headed'(!) alien, and when the Sandtroopers actually enter the premises.  I always liked those ones.

Bingowings said:

If you look through the gap in the vines as Luke is turning away you can see where there should have been blue swamp fog there is tan.

Yeah, I really love how this has been altered to match the colour of the rest of the 'swamp fog' now.  Great job on that.

The whole preview was another triumph throughout as far as I'm concerned (you ended up posting the clip at exactly the time I was mentioning it doubleofive, lol!)...but damn, it ended *just* before my favourite shot in the whole 'Falcon approach'! - I was willing it on for another second or two to reveal the moment we actually then see 'Cloud City' in the distance...as I'm really looking forward to seeing what that particular shot looks like now.

Anyway, glad to see the removal of the 'floating' debris' that's in front of Slave I now, which is moving backwards towards it for some reason in the current version...and seems to appear out of nowhere compared to the shot before!  And nice to see the lack of 'blue-spill on the close-up of Fett too, as Bingowings also mentioned.

Good to see the 'rusty red' panels of Slave I itself now too.  And Yoda's looking great here again, with his single added 'blink' nicely timed.  The moment that ray_afraid mentioned, where he now turns to look *towards* Luke when he falls is a particular highlight for me...as it's always niggled me how his head kinda 'jerks' towards the wrong direction when this happens!  The 'cloud' shots all look great too, and the subtly-different flight-paths of the 'Pod-cars' and Falcon seen in one or two of them look terrific.

Amazing stuff as always.  Thanks for the preview adywan! 

Really looking forward to seeing how the miniature tree replacements end up looking in the 2 shots that adywan's confirmed they're intended for -

But the really big news over on the Facebook front is that a new clip is imminent...

One that's 100% complete on the video side, and that will be along shortly!  Yay!  :)

Here's a look at the new 'International' poster which has been released now (at bottom), which is slightly different to the previous 2 versions -

doubleofive said:

And thanks for the kind words about me. :-)

 And I think you're great too!  :)

elvin peterson said:

I did the severed walrus arm shot along with Gary Kurtz in early 1977. Several days before we were to do the insert Gary brought the sleeve with him but not the correct hand.

Much thanks for all that info. elvin.

Couple of questions -

Gary Kurtz brought it several days before the shot?  Did neither of you notice at the time, or was it not possible to organise the correct hand during that time?

Also, although it looks to me like Obi-wan swipes twice in the footage, why was the 'Walrus Guy's arm shown on the floor in the first place rather than 'Freaky Nose's human-like arm, considering 'Freaky Nose' had been the one who was actually holding the blaster in the first place?...

And if you've seen adywan's 'Revisited' version (in motion preferably), what do you think of it?

Oops, was typing some comments to 'save in draft' here, but posted them by accident!

Move along.

Moth3r said:

I've received a PM from Angel explaining why certain IP addresses match.

I'm now satisfied that Angel and Nebula are, in fact, two different people.

I've asked Jay to unban Nebula

Ah, so 'Nebula' wasn't a 'sock' account then, just someone new after all.

'Angel' would be right to be miffed about that mix-up, so I hope he'll take it in his stride.

Although this proposal has been deferred in it's current form, I've previously read about a sneaky device that the 'powers-that-be' in the U.S. use to push their agendas through sometimes - it's known as a 'PAPERCLIP CLAUSE', and it means that certain legislation that's been difficult to pass on it's own, could eventually have it's substance 'subtly included' into another internet-related bill proposal.  A proposal that just happens to be one that politicians across the board will find reasonable to vote for/difficult to vote against. 

The upshot is that the public is not as aware of the implications this time around, and the politicians end up also voting through this previously discredited aspect by default.  And some initally opposed politicians could unwittingly vote for the 'main' proposal without realising the full ramifications of the complete wording on the bill. 

And you can bet that law enforcement will be encouraged to crack down harder on the 'subtly included' agenda, rather than the 'main' aspect of the bill that was supposedly the target in the first place, once the powers are available.

So if the 'powers-that-be' again don't get their way on their eventual 'amended' SOPA/PIPA proposals (which will be back sooner rather than later) in future, then I've no doubt they'll try to use this method to get things 'through the back door' instead.

Having said that, with the way that 'Megaupload' was dealt with, it seems there's plenty of fire-power that existing U.S. laws already have anyway...

But wouldn't this subject be more suited to the 'off-topic' section, regardless?

So 'Angel' (formerly 'Vaderios') turned out to be the disgruntled 'Nebula' on the ESB:R thread then?

Disappointing.  And I'm surprised if he thought it would go un-noticed, lol.

I sure hope various editors over at Fanedit.org can find a way to save their 'Megaupload' efforts...

Seems a lot are 'Missing In Action' now...

http://nooooooooooooooo.com

Although the SOPA/PIPA proposals have been (temporarily) shelved, I've still got a big sad for all the edits suddenly 'Missing In Action' over at Fanedit.org now...  :(

ADigitalMan said:

As I re-learn and re-tool my process for HD, I will likely post a new guide for all of you.

 Welcome news indeed! :)

Nebula said:

It's funny that he gives out earlier snapshots and later on saying that he's corercted them without giving any proof visually. (Awaiting the final release is the best excuse I've ever heard. If you want to get feedback about your work and maybe it will be good, then show us your final shots. I think it's common sense).

Having read through some of your ramblings Nebula, it seems you take big issue with adywan's edit.  Unfortunately, I can't pin down exactly what your exact beef with it is, as your comments are unspecific, and a little confusing overall.

Nevertheless, you're certainly entitled to your opinion regardless, however negative.  Having said that, you seem to be quite a rude bugger if some of your initial posts are anything to go by.

Fair enough, but I'd just like to clarify something for you to do with your above comments - as one of those that have seen a very incomplete 'workprint' of ESB:R, I can assure you that adywan definately *has* continually improved on certain shots that he's only so far shown in an early, unfinished version on this thread.  And those have been dramatically improved on now, as far as I'm concerned, compared to the early versions.  You'll just have to accept my word on that, but he certainly doesn't owe it to any of us to keep showing every little additional amendment that he makes along the way.  And althought he's previewed heaps of things already, he's also previously mentioned how he'd like to keep quite a few touches undisclosed as a 'surprise' for those interested, when the edit is finished.

And adywan has certainly shown that he's open to constuctive 'feedback' from others, even though these edits are mainly for his own satisfaction at the end of the day.

However, I'm kinda unclear why you'd even be concerned about wanting to give your opinion on totally finished screenshots anyway, seeing as you seem to be so against this thing in the first place...

@ adywan - sorry to hear of the recent spate of 'hate-mail' you've mentioned on Facebook that you've received recently.  How ridiculous that some feel bothered by your own 'unofficial' enhancements to these movies, for your own enjoyment.  Don't let any of that nonsense distract you from the fact that you're putting some wonderful imagination and artistry into your projects.  If they aren't interested in your alternative take on these, then they've still got their own preferred versions readily available to them, so what's their issue?

And I'm hoping you'll get a chance to get round to some of those responses/answers on here you'd intended recently, but were unable to manage because of your connection problems.

SilverWook said:

I'm not sure the Yoda in the poster is even the same CGI model used in the movies.

Agreed.  The poster unfortunately shows a Yoda with an especially 'painterly' CGI look overall I reckon.  It would have benefited from being a more dramatically shadowed shot rather than a brightly-lit one, as the effect just seems lacking here.  And the robes don't even seem to have the nuanced 'roughened' look that the movie CGI shots do, that are shown in certain posts above. 

However, I much prefer that there's a replacement CGI version which at least ties in with the same look of the one shown in 'AOTC' and 'ROTS' now, as opposed to the ridiculous original 'TPM' puppet which didn't. 

Sure, the overall CGI-heavy 'sheen' of the prequels give them a very different look compared to the original trilogy movies, but that is the least of their problems.  So while I far prefer the 'ESB'/'ROTJ' puppet of course, I'm certainly heartened that the prequel trilogy Yoda's at least match together now.

ALIEN and ALIENS were both great movie experiences in different ways for me, and everything that came after them paled in comparison where I'm concerned, including ALIEN 3 in either of it's current versions. 

However, I'm certainly looking forward to PROMETHEUS bringing back Ridley's flair for visuals once again, to hopefully add another really good 'un to the overall franchise.  Here's a big, nice quality 'gif' I came across of the shot that Anchorhead showed above, for a clearer look at things (especially the figure on the right of the frame) - http://larsfocke.de/temp/prometheus-space-jockey-chair.gif

The details of this set, and the exterior of the 'Derelict' seen in the recent teaser are markedly different in plenty of ways compared to ones seen in ALIEN.  Is this indeed meant to be the same 'Derelict' as we originally saw, or not, I wonder?

Sorry to hear of your sad news xeno_alpha_07

Will be interested to see what you come up with for this eventually.  PM sent.

There's obviously gold in them thar frames.  Nice link cbaka.

Gotta love that recent teaser for PROMETHEUS.

I got a kick out of this recent 'fan-edited' one too - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ6SUTI1j9M

Here's another neat one -

ALIEN/edited by heresjohnny1991 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ6SUTI1j9M

TV's Frink said:

You might get more interest if you post this in the "fanedits of other films" forum?

Thanks TVF, I did think about putting this in the 'Fanedits of Other Films' section at first, but it states 'Fan edits of films and TV shows other than Star Wars' underneath...so I just stuck it here, as I intend to include 'Star Wars'-related stuff here too, eventually.

...and I guess I could kick those off at this point...

EPISODE I: THE RIDICULOUS MENACE (teaser)/edited by TV's Frink - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1htRJzvfC6w

EPISODE I: THE RIDICULOUS MENACE (full trailer) /edited by TV's Frink - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYnIoXr8ghI

(and great 'Bond' mash-up link there, none!)

Really enjoyed the start of 'Sherlock's 2nd season.  The first season of this 'modern-day-take' was of a very high standard throughout, and this first episode was entertaining viewing too.  Looking forward to seeing what they do with their version of the 'Hound of the Baskervilles' in the next episode.