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#704106
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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HotRod said:

^^ WoW...You really don't want this film released anytime soon, do ya?? 

;)

Of course not, as I need this thread to continue indefinitely for the sake of your witty one-liners.  ;) 

(Seriously, I've been waiting expectantly for 'ESB:R's eventual release like everyone else these past years.  I'd have been gnawing my leg off if it hadn't been for the 'workprint' to keep me going in the meantime!  But I know adywan will still consider any little points that anyone may still have, right up until he's satisfied...even though he's thought of just about everything so far)

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#703738
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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Wow!, that latest preview was a nice surprise adywan.  Fabulous work as always, and the combined effect of all your enhancements (whether big, small, or miniscule) throughout the whole clip blew me away.  :)

Anyway, here's some things that came to mind, so please bear with me -

I'm happy to admit that I was one of those who never actually noticed that 'Slave I's peeling paintwork and detailing was different between the 'Han being loaded aboard' shot and the 'taking off' shot, until Jaitea brought it up a few pages back!  Thankfully, you'd already sorted it perfectly anyway.  Remarkable stuff once again.

But something else struck me as really interesting in your new new shot shown in the comparison pics above - namely, that the main body of 'Slave I' is no longer raised higher above the landing platform, compared to the original shot... 

Now, although I personally used to like the original look of the ship perching/hovering(?) higher off the ground upon it's protruding 'Repulsor Generator' (as shown in this diagram)http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/archive/0/0b/20081015144046!SlaveI_egvv.jpg , I can certainly understand the change, as your new positioning makes it tie-in nicely with the way it was shown lying very 'flat-to-the-ground' in 'Episode II' instead...as seen in this shot example - http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070815224521/starwars/images/9/99/Slave_I.jpg

(Bloody prequels... - due to that very different landing position seen in Ep.II, and because I didn't like the change of colour-scheme the ship was given, I've previously chosen to look at it as merely being a 'similar-looking' type of ship as 'Slave I'...but not actually THE 'Slave I' that older 'Boba' eventually pilots in ESB!  Of course, I sometimes prefer to look on the current versions of the official prequels as being nothing more than some kind of bizarre 'alternate universe' version of 'Star Wars', totally unrelated to the Original Trilogy movies altogether!  But I digress, and seeing as it's meant to be the same ship, I just wish George had also used something resembling the classic ESB colour-scheme for Ep.II in the first place, albeit newer and not so beat-up at that earlier point.  Ho hum)  :) 

However, as you're thankfully planning to revisit Ep.II one day anyway, then this new 'flat-to-the-ground' landing position in 'ESB:Revisited' will be one continuity difference less between your versions.  I could just continue to 'imagine' that 'Jango' uses a *different* ship in Ep.II, but on the other hand, I guess the likes of the protruding 'Repulsor Generator' and any other details that are seen to stick out a little beyond 'Slave I's underbelly can just be 'imagined' as retracting back inside a little, when it comes in to land...and retract back out again a little, as it takes off...  So it's all good at the end of the day.  :)

Anyway, coming to my *main* point about this particular new shot in ESB:R, I just wondered if there should also be a subtle hint of the 'boarding ramp' seen in Ep.II added to the right-hand side of 'Slave I''s main body when Han is being loaded aboard?  I only ask as the ramp noticeably juts out slightly further from the main body of the Ep.II version.  It's certainly no biggie, but for a better look at how the ramp fully extends and retracts on the Ep.II version, check out the 0 mins. 14 secs. mark, and the 2 mins. 41 secs. mark on this clip here -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tMZdrUx8eM

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Onto a couple of other small queries now, and here's a link to your latest clip to make things easier to refer to - https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=862811780401072&set=vb.223279371020986&type=2&theater

1.  As a big fan of the additional 'life' that your added 'distant ships' bring to the city shots, is it possible after Boba's close-up to include even just one tiny, moving element in the background somewhere when we cut away to your new shot of Han being loaded aboard Slave I at the 4 mins. 16 secs. mark? And also/or to your new shot of Slave I taking off at the 4 mins. 51 secs. mark?

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2.  And I'm also a big fan of the idea of seeing an occasional 'slowly blinking' red light atop a building or two, again to add some additional 'life' and 'movement' to the city shots.  There's certainly the odd shot where that could potentially done, so again, perhaps you could consider if that's something that's worth doing or not.

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3.  And going back to something involving added 'distant ships' - I see you've altered the ones on your shot of Slave I seen through the corridor windows seen at 4 mins. 39 secs.  But because all three of them are moving in the same kind of *upwards* trajectory compared to the non-upwards trajectory we've seen of 'distant ships' in other shots up till then, it kinda makes it look that the ships are already starting to get the hell outta the city at that point...

...but Lando hasn't been seen to give his announcement yet at the 8 mins. 42 secs. mark which comes a good bit after that particular Slave I shot appears, so do you think it might be better if at least a couple of those new elements could revert back to just flying in a horizontal flightpath instead, still unaware of the announcement that Lando's about to make?

It now looks like the ships are evacuating already *before* he makes his announcement, if you see what I mean, because they are *all* travelling upwards in your new shot.  But if you were to consider altering things back to the more horizontal flightpaths that the current Blu-ray elements have, we would then get our first look at several ships evacuating upwards in your 'Lando and Leia in corridor with windows' shot seen at 9 mins. 47 secs. in the clip. 

I just think that would be a far more impactful and effective shot to initially see the reaction to Lando's announcement from a little earlier, and we then see all your further 'upwards trajectory' elements that continue to escape in other shots that come after that 'corridor windows' shot, of course.

(By the way, your lowered Slave I platform in that shot to the same level as our running heroes is a really neat improvement.  Love it!)

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4.  Another little thought about the 'Han being loaded aboard' shot - should the length of your new, thin Slave I 'shadow' be made *slightly* longer on the left-hand side of the shot to indicate the sun is beginning to lower in relation to the city at that point?  I'm not quite sure about this, but I think it might tie-in even better with the moody approaching 'evening' skies look of all your other terrific backgrounds, that follow soon afterwards.  Once again, see what you think.

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5.  And just a last little query - I see that the lights surrounding your Slave I 'landing platform' shots seen at the 4 mins. 16 secs. mark and the 4 mins. 51 secs. mark of your clip, are quite yellowish-looking compared to the very white ones that are seen on your Falcon 'landing platform' shots.  But should the Slave I platform lights be equally white as well?...or is this a slight difference you're choosing to do to differentiate the look of the two separate platforms?  Just curious.

(The new shot of Slave I taking off is also terrific by the way, and it's good to finally see that added 'canopy' in motion!)  :) 

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#698276
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Star Wars: Episode VII to be directed by J.J. Abrams **NON SPOILER THREAD**
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TMBTM said:

As much as I'd like Peter to play Chewie again (if he can physicaly do it), having him "filming" something  in may do not mean it's Episode 7; and even if it is for Episode 7 it could also be an unmasked cameo (and that would be sweet from J.J to do that kind of thing for Peter, IMO)

Good thinking, as THAT would be a 'cameo' appearance I'd be happy to see, if he can't physically play Chewie again.  Warwick Davis was seen in the crowd scenes in TPM, and I'd be pleased to see Peter Mayhew get a brief moment too in that case.

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#695321
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Info: Topher Grace's Prequel edit
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Hal 9000 said:

Going by the trailer, I'd bet his edit would be given a so-so rating if it were submitted to FE.org under another name. 

Perhaps, but who knows?...there just *might* be some moments of gold amongst his re-structuring that the trailer doesn't convey. 

Hey, I'll just be glad if Vader's not referred to as 'Ani' in this...  ;) 

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#694535
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Info: Topher Grace's Prequel edit
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This has recently been brought up over at Fanedit.org, but for anyone who hasn't seen this yet, here's a link to Topher's trailer for his Star Wars:Episode III.5 - The Editor Strikes Back edit on his own site - http://www.cerealprize.com/trailers/redux-of-the-jedi

It's also been mentioned on a couple of other sites too, including this one - http://www.slashfilm.com/topher-grace-star-wars-trailer/ , but the videos seem to have been pulled from those now.

While I have my own specific thoughts on how I'd like to edit the individual prequels for myself, I also like the notion of working out what footage I'd prefer to include in a single, 3 in 1 companion version too, someday. 

I like a lot of Topher's choices which have been previously detailed, and he's certainly managed a bold cut lasting only 1 hour 25 mins., considering he's brought it down from almost 7 hours worth of footage in total.  But there's certain things he's included that I wouldn't...and 'flying' CGI Artoo is one of them! :) 

I'd still be interested to see what he came up with one day, but it would be neat if he even just released a comprehensive look at his 'cut-list', eventually.

And here's an article which shows the trailer he cut for his recent private showing of his Close Encounters of the Third Kind: The Remix version too - http://www.slashfilm.com/trailer-and-report-from-topher-graces-remix-of-close-encounters-of-a-third-kind/  

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#689921
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Star Wars: Episode VII to be directed by J.J. Abrams **NON SPOILER THREAD**
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Seems the mighty ILM is setting up a division here in the U.K. to work on this thing also.  Nice to know some of our local effects guys will be involved.  (now if only our very own adywan could pop by to say hello sometime, heh...) -

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/star-wars-leads-ilm-launch-679678 

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#685157
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Random Thoughts
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darth_ender said:

ImperialFighter said:

Possessed said:

Be right back.

Thanks Possessed, I just found that out after I posted.  Hopefully things will be back on track over there before too long.

 Avast keeps blocking the site, telling me the page is infected :(

Yeah, it seems that certain messages are appearing depending on which browser you use.  Things are definitely ongoing over there for the time being, and it's now showing the message 'Bathroom Break' today for me. :)

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#685013
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Random Thoughts
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ImperialFighter said:

TV's Frink said:

ImperialFighter said:

Damn, went to check out a couple of edits yesterday only to find that the fanedit.info resource has taken a hit of some sort...

 Hopefully a new source will take its place.

 After many days of being 'suspended', it's now back up I see. :)

I see it's gone wonky again. :( 

After appearing to be fine the other day, it's just showing the initials 'brb' now.  Wonder what the hell that stands for?

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#682663
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What do you HATE about the EU?
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SilverWook said:

No time to discuss this in committee! ;)

I've only just noticed that DominicCobb and yourself had already mentioned two other articles about this development a couple of days ago over on the 'General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread'.  So I'll just stick those links here too, for anyone following this particular thread -

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/01/07/lucasfilm-story-group-to-ensure-star-wars-continuity-across-all-platforms

and  http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-news/lucasfilm-brings-order-star-wars-galaxy-movies-comic-191429476.html

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#682610
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What do you HATE about the EU?
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Disney have organised a 'committee' to determine this issue it seems... -  

http://io9.com/Disney-appoints-a-group-to-determine-a-new-official-st-1497893812

and  http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-spinoffs-will-matter-668958

(Whatever these guys decide, I'll continue to choose my *own* preferred 'personal canon' where 'Star Wars' is concerned, just as I do with the 'Alien' and 'Star Trek' franchises amongst others) ;)

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#679789
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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adywan said:


I did try my hardest to get this edit finished for the end of the year, but you can't control outside forces. with the delay of being able to get the carbonite prop and the bulbs etc this put me back about 3 months. So i would now say that we are looking at a February/ March release.

Great to see your latest update adywan, and your 'canyon' set looked absolutely fantastic!  Your wife will be glad to get her dining area back now. :)

While we all knew you were hoping to get the edit finished in time for Christmas, it's amazing that you are even so close to finishing things up in early 2014 sometime, considering all the many different aspects you've ended up enhancing on this thing recently.  Everyone that's anticipating your latest project knows that you tried extremely hard to get it done before the end of the year, and we thank you for that, but we're all just excited to know that you're continuing to do some awesome work on ESB:Revisited, and don't want you to burn yourself out. 

Sure, it's taken a lot longer than you originally anticipated due to various reasons along the way, but it will be worth it to you and us all in the long run to take as much time as it requires to get everything done in a way you're completely happy with.  Any unforeseen mishaps aside, 2014 is gonna be a great year for those of us keenly waiting to see this particular project realised, and we thank you for your continued efforts.

So in the meantime, I'd just like to wish you and everyone else here a very HAPPY CHRISTMAS and a great new year ahead.

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#678712
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Star Wars Blu-ray and DVD Combo Packs. (Please Read 1st post)
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russs15 said:

The question is, are these the 2004 OT, 1999/2002/2005 PT versions re-packaged yet again or the 2011 Blu Ray versions but on DVD??

They seem to be the 2011 Blu-ray versions russs15, as the PAL dvd of 'Episode I' now features the 'digital' Yoda for instance.  Strangely, these latest dvd releases don't even bother to flag up the fact that they are the 'up-to-date' versions on the UK packaging in any way.

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#676703
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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Ronster said:

I also have a retrofit idea for this scene

When the executor pulls out of the asteroid field we should see that sun that happens to be visible from directly looking out the hole. And perhaps quite imposing

An interesting idea Ronster, but the suddenly bright white opening seen in this shot has already been nicely improved now to remove it's inconsistency.

As far as the GOUT versions of the movies go, there's certainly a big difference in how the colours and details on them look compared to the SE versions.  Between the colour grading and the 'crushed' blacks, the original look of the movies has been quite drastically altered overall...and the 'asteroid chase' scene you mentioned is a very good example.  I'd love to see the original cuts given a proper HD release someday, but just hope they don't end up overly-'processed' like the SE's are, where the colours etc. are concerned...

But despite the limitations of the source material being used, the new 'starfields' on the 'Revisited' edits seem a vibrant improvement to me compared to the SE ones...so I'm more than happy with them.

 

asterisk8, having thought about it a bit more, I see what you're saying about 'camera lens effects' etc. when it comes to Earth's aura/haze/atmosphere effect.  I guess I've been used to seeing all kinds of those type of 'optical illusions' you describe from various footage/photos over the years, and have gotten a false impression from them about how things should look.  Your last photo example was especially telling, and I'm very pleased with how the 'Hoth' haze effect is looking throughout 'ESB:R'.

At the start of STAR WARS, I always used to imagine that the Stardestroyer *seemed* to somewhat 'skim the outer atmosphere' of 'Tattooine' at the point where it's rear entered the frame...even though that could also be looked on as a kind of 'lens flare' given off by the effects given to it's rear boosters.  The shot used to have a far more subtle blue effect at that moment, but it ended up looking dreadfully overblown and garish on the SE release unfortunately...and I really miss how it originally looked.  But thankfully, the 'Revisited' version has salvaged that particular muck-up a great deal to get rid of the excess of the SE effect.

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#676505
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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If I get you right Ronster, I think you're trying to describe a *very slightly* more gradual 'gradient' of blue aura/haze/atmosphere effect around Hoth in certain closer shots of it.  Like say, there would be a quite pronounced shade of blue nearest to the surface of the planet, which would then fade gradually out to even more transparent and slightly less noticeable 'shades' of faint blueness against the blackness of space. 

If I'm getting you right on that, then I agree, despite some of the pic examples above giving differing results.  It's quite a subtle effect, but it can make a difference.  And it would apply more to shots of Hoth that are nearer to us.  While that would be a nice, if very, very subtle addition, it's no biggie I reckon.

To be honest, I always think the effect around the relative close-up of 'Tattooine' at the start of STAR WARS is a little severe in different versions, and should also have more of the subtle 'gradient' of 'fading' I think you're referring to.  Hard to say, but check out Harmy's Despecialized Edition comparison shots for instance, for examples of how it looks in the GOUT and SE.

Either way, I definitely don't like the notion of making the *starfields* more blue however, as one of the highlights of the 'Revisited' edits for me has been how nicely black and white they are now.  Just as I always imagine 'space' in the STAR WARS movies to look, and just my own opinion of course.

(I'm actually wondering if J.J. will stick to this established 'look' or merely disregard it for something approaching what was seen in parts of his 'Trek' instalments...but I digress)