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Well J.J.'s wearing the requisite 'check shirt' now I see...so can the 'trimmed beard' be far behind? ;)

Quality of the actual finished movie aside, I previously kept a lookout for every scrap of information I could find out about 'Episode I' *before* it's release in 1999...and ended up ruining a lot of the surprises for myself about the characters, storyline, and design work it contained...

So now that things are beginning to ramp up again on a sequel to ROTJ where anything might happen...I've decided that I'm gonna try and *avoid* as much info. as possible this time around...including this particular thread from today onwards!... 

...which won't be easy, as there's bound to be plenty of stuff I'll inadvertently come across regarding 'Episode VII', no matter how hard I try not to.  However, I won't actively go looking for any details like I did in the past, so that the majority of this particular chapter will hopefully end up seeming as fresh as possible to me overall, when I eventually sit down to watch it in the cinema with the family.

It might be interesting to eventually wade through the reveals/speculation/hopes that this thread throws up *after* I've actually seen the movie, but I'll wait and see how many pages it has by that time!  In the meantime, I'll leave you all with a couple of thoughts before you carry on with your future contemplations - 

1.  'Headline' spoilers are gonna be *real difficult* to avoid on the net and other media as the movie approaches...but I won't be buying the 'soundtrack score' or reading it's 'track titles' beforehand, if it comes out before I catch the movie.  Can't wait to hear what John Williams comes up with this time around...but as that might end up one of the movie's best aspects, I'll definitely wait to hear it accompany the movie itself, first.

2.  Now that a new release date of December 2015 has supposedly been put in place, I guess that means a lot of related 'toy'/assorted merchandise will show up to hit the shelves in plenty of time for Christmas that year.  Plenty of potential spoilers there before the movie's release no doubt, so I'll have to be especially wary in the run-up to the release around then!... 

3.  Just a last observation...it seems like the two new young characters that are currently still to be cast have reasonably 'straighforward' names compared to some of the more colourful ones in the 'Star Wars' galaxy - namely 'Thomas' and 'Rachel'...  

'Luke' was certainly a 'straightforward' first name too, compared to say, 'Obi-Wan' or 'Anakin' etc., but at this point I don't know if their second name will be 'Solo' or 'Skywalker' or even 'Organa' (hey, who says things worked out with 'Han' at the end of the day?...maybe Leia eventually ditched him...). 

Either way, I'd really like to keep that a mystery until at least the first trailer appears, if I can.  One way or another though, I hope to sit down to this one without knowing most of what's coming...  Good luck if any of you feel like trying to do the same. :)  

Mara Jade's Father said:

 

However the chip has been bothering me ever since eFx made The Empire Strikes Back version of Luke's helmet and included the chip.  But as you can see, most of the scenes do not have the chip.  So now I can't un-see it.

Welcome aboard Mara Jade's Father.  I enjoyed your first posts here, and see that you're gonna fit right in!

Non-matching 'scuffs' on helmets, eh?  Can't say I've ever been niggled by that. 

I don't know if adywan (or  indeed *any* of us) quite anticipated the varied amount of little things that would be brought up on this thread or not...but as someone who has owned up to being a little distracted by certain details on 'ESB' over the years that may or may not have troubled others too, I salute you.  

You've made me seem somewhat reasonable!  :) 

Terrific work on the 'canyon' miniature so far.  This is one of the poorer original effects scenes which I'm most looking forward to seeing improved.

HotRod said:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/64942

 

there you go. 

Heh, you beat me to pointing this out I see.  When I came across that article and saw the video that was shown at the top, I thought the article was actually going to reference this project!

I wonder how unintentional that clip usage was...

(by the way, after reading the article, it made me realise that I should really stop reading stuff on sites and threads that are related to J.J.'s upcoming movie altogether from now...to keep things as fresh as possible for myself on it's release, unlike where I gobbled everything up for TPM before it came out...)

Happy Halloween to Ady and everyone else here!

Happy Halloween all! -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1aBsDc-ck0

Possessed said:

Would anybody be interested in me taking this up again? I feel like it had a unique premise to the other rotj edits starting to surface.  Well maybe not a unique premise, but unique execution perhaps.  Some of my own favorite cuts I've made to it I haven't seen made in other edits of this film.

Good to see you've decided to take this up again Possessed.  The last line in the quote above is good enough reason alone to continue with this, and I look forward to seeing what you've come up with eventually.

So good to see that the 'castings' guy has really come through now, and sent the whole casting!  I don't know if it's to eventually be returned or not, but it certainly couldn't be put towards a better use than this project.

Seems it's made of resin and fibreglass and is quite heavy.  It definitely looks good.  Guess that all the 'new shirt' work will need redone, but even so, this is some really great news.

And for those that haven't seen it yet, here's a link to 'Adywan's Workshop' page that includes the painted 'speeder flap' that I couldn't post properly in my previous post (it's down on the lower right-hand side.  Just click on the pic to enbiggen it) - https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.310392735642982.95894.223279371020986&type=3 

Just wanted to show some of adywan's comments which were posted over on the FB page a little while back (3rd Oct.) -

"Work on the speeder flaps is almost complete.  A bit more dirtying up and they are ready to film on Monday.  I've also been working on the tiny set dressing pieces for the hangar miniature set.  Next to mould and cast the various pieces multiple times and then paint them.  Still some more items to create for the hangar shots too.

Back to work on the dagobah set too.  It's going to have to be made in sections because i realised (after i started making the base) that there is no way i can get this miniature through the door of my workroom so i can film it down stairs.

Once these items are complete and filmed then that only really leaves the asteroid canyon and the wampa to do and work on the video side of things will be complete."

I can't seem to get the terrific-looking FB 'speeder flap' prop shot to show on here properly, but here's that latest 'hangar detailing' shot -

Loving the work on the miniature detailing!

...and great news on finally getting hold of that rare laserdisc.  It's contents will certainly make for a marvellous 'extra' for ROTJ:R.  Here's the new FB page for it, along with a couple of preview clips from it - https://www.facebook.com/rotjeditdroid?hc_location=timeline

adywan said:

Now, will these be live action or just more lego ones, or even a bit of both?

If it's live action with a small lego Vader running around, I'll definitely want to scream you-know-what! ;)

KilroyMcFadden said:

Chewie didn't die in the movies.  Everything that isn't in a movie is fair game for change.

J.J. better not go giving him a medal and messing up adywan's continuity, or I'll be pissed.

Hell, he could make Chewie a girl for all we know so far!

So...no more 'creepy puppet Yoda' on this latest 'Episode I' DVD release then?

Bingowings said:

Enemy of the World and most of Web Of Fear it is then.

Better than nothing by a long chalk but the earlier reports a hundred or so episodes were flash in the pan.

Terrific news about these of course, but I'm glad I kept my expectations low about the actual episodes discovered as the early breathless reports seemed a little *too* good to be true. 

And yet...there's still various hints that these are just an initial dripfeed of what's been found, and that there will be further announcements down the line.  But if there's nothing more mentioned during the full-blown 50th Anniversary stuff, then we'll know for certain that this is really all that's been located in this instance, after all.  I remain cautiously optimistic until that point.

Given the amount of 'repeats' the BBC has been so fond of giving us over the years (some welcome, some not), I still find it incredible that there was a time where they routinely and short-sightedly erased some of their output in the past.

And it's especially a tragedy that a lot of the earliest classic 'Doctor Who' episodes were lost due to this mis-management.

So while I'm keeping my expectations in check, I'm extremely pleased that *some* of these lost episodes seem to have been finally located somehow.  What a great boost for the upcoming 50th Anniversary hoopla.  Looks like it's now going to be another couple of days or so for the full reveal of exactly what...but fingers crossed for some complete story arcs, whatever the number found -

Latest BBC confirmation - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24448063

Press conference delayed a little - http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/doctor-who-lost-episodes-update-2347529

It seems that George put a year or so into planning what comes next...

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/29034/lucas-put-a-year-into-the-next-star-wars

Kurgan said:

So you made this too, huh?

Thing is Kurgan, while the word itself is generic and common...it's long been associated with adywan's ongoing project...where *'fanedits'* are concerned.  In my opinion, certainly. 

And I don't see anything in his post that 'claims' it anyway.  He just pointed out the fact that he's ended up getting lots of bothersome queries about it...which is due to the fact that others also seem to associate any 'Star Wars' edits with that title as perhaps being by him too...

G'night all.

*EDIT* -  Wait!...I just realised that you actually meant that those *asking* adywan about it being his work or not, were the ones at fault.  It was just the way you wrote that, so if I picked you up wrongly, then I apologise Kurgan.

I really must get some sleep it seems... 

adywan said:

On another note, it seems a new fan edit is causing me all sorts of headaches...

http://fanedit.org/ifdb/component/content/article/79-fanedit-listings/fanfix/938-star-wars-episode-i-return-of-the-sith-revisited-edition

I'm getting numerous messages and emails from people asking me where they can get the edit, why have i done episode 1 before finishing ESB:R, etc etc. I guess they didn't bother to check the editors name before bombarding me with all these questions. lol

I had a notion that this edit by seciors might lead to confusion amongst some, when I read up on it a while back. 

I've yet to watch it, but he seems like a talented faneditor, and he's certainly incorporated lots of changes to his 'Episode I' version that I'm interested to see.  It was called 'Revisited Edition' because of it being an HD re-do/improvement of an earlier version he released.  And for those that don't know, amongst the other edits he's released is one called 'The Abyss:Revisited Edition' and he's planning another called 'Titanic:Revisited Edition' eventually too.

And Monroville's currently stalled 'ALIEN:Revisited' is yet another title that potentially causes confusion.

Thing is, while there's certainly no rule or obligation in fanediting circles to not use 'Revisited' in their edit titles...I just kinda think that it's become so associated with adywan's groundbreaking project, that there *should* be! :)

Despite my mis-givings, I guess imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. 

Sure Laserschwert, by 'if all else fails' I meant that at least we're likely to get a great 'Star Wars' soundtrack *even* if J.J. turns in a production that matches Bingowings' list of George's prequel failings.  But I'm hopeful J.J. ends up better delivering on some of those other aspects, of course.

(by the way, look out for another PM over the next couple of days, as I have some news to update you with!)

Bingowings said:

The problem was the story was boring and badly written and badly acted and directed and designed.

Those guys should've just used *this* as their template for what J.J. should avoid...

At least he's got John Williams on board to make things *sound* good again, if all else fails.

Guess I should really show the source page I saw it on, so that you can read up on the guys that came up with it, and can see the various comment responses to it also - http://io9.com/a-beautifully-animated-open-letter-to-j-j-abrams-about-1397273170?autoplay=1

Just came across this.  Sure hope J.J. is taking notes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_joDNOpeWWo

muddyknees2000 said:

ROTJ:R, ANH:R (HD) and I, II & III will all be worked on simultaneously. No word yet on if they will be released all together or one at a time.

I read about the intention to work on I, II & III simultaneously on doubleofive's 'Wordpress' news updates, but I didn't realise that adywan was *also* planning to undertake those at the exact same time as his 'ROTJ:R' and 'ANH:R(HD)' edits too...

Which makes things even more incredible muddyknees, if that's the case!  

That's gonna make for a heap of new threads and ideas for us all to follow when that time comes, although I suppose there only needs to be a single one to cover updates/suggestions/'Frink'isms etc. for the I, II & III edits themselves - if that's judged preferable to three separate threads. 

Lots to look forward to then, and it'll be a job just to keep up with it all. :)

fgqb#19nyj said:

For one thing, he's not doing this just for himself. He's doing it for all to enjoy. Hence the reason why he's taken in fan input and instilling it into his edits. Nobody would go through all this trouble if they weren't. The Revisits are well known across the net and this will be his legacy when it is all said and done. 

Indeed, but I meant this was a personal project for adywan first and foremost, even though he's kindly letting us all join in on the fun along the way - which entails him wanting to improve on the current 'Special Edition' OT rather than anything else first , before eventually having a stab at the rest once that's complete.

Certainly, I'm real glad that he's concentrating on the whole OT first, and leaving the rest till afterwards.

fgqb#19nyj said:

Hey, Ady, if you think the PT is trash, then why not just do the OT, instead? But why bother working on something that's already good, anyway? I mean, if any movie needs fixing, it's one of the Prequels. That's the real challenge, and one that everybody is only interested in seeing done. Hence the inspiration for so many fanedits across the net.

The OT certainly *used* to be good, but we've never been given a proper high quality DVD/BLU-RAY release of any of it as it used to be...and the subsequent 'Special Editions' have each been sullied with some pretty poor editing choices/changes over the years, and are no longer so good.

So I for one am looking forward to seeing all three of the existing OT movies being given such a rigorous overhaul by adywan, with so many attentive fixes along the way.  And some of his early intentions for 'ROTJ:R' already sound intriguing.  He's doing these primarily for his *own* satisfaction at the end of the day, so that's why he's doing these in the first place - and the current versions are still there for anyone that prefers sticking with those.  Me, I'll be watching the 'Revisited' versions in future.

As far as the 'prequels' go, not everyone will be interested in seeing those 'Revisited', no matter how adywan goes about playing around with them...because there's just *so many* poorly written and performed moments throughout each of them, unfortunately.

And yet, there's *so many* different ways to alter them to improve things a little, so I'll certainly be one of the many interested to see how he chooses to personally alter things for himself, when the time comes. 

Now 'prequel' talk...begone for now!

adywan said:

Something i'm working on at the moment. Still a lot of cleaning up work to do before the paint job, but this should be ready to film in the next few days. You can see the scale of this thing by the power drill propping up the speeder flap 

Damn, your standards are slipping a little, as I was actually hoping that was a 'spraying booth'...

The 'speeder flap' looks terrific however! And I'm looking forward to seeing it in motion eventually.  ;)