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#1202480
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CHRONOLOGICAL REVENGE OF THE SITH (RELEASED!)
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BIRTH OF THE EMPIRE CLIP.

I think this will be one of the last clip I’ll post before the release.

  1. As usual… color correction, especially during the Senate scenes.
  2. On Mustafar, Gunray does not call Anakin “Vader”. He simply says that they were expecting him.
  3. No Obi Wan and Yoda entering the main hall of the Temple and wondering who might have killed the younglings.
  4. Obi Wan does not see Anakin killing Jedi in the recordings. He simply sees Anakin kneeling before Palpatine. Different montage to remove Palpatine calling him “Lord Vader”.
  5. No “Consumed by Darth Vader”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3ki4Epv868&feature=youtu.be

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#1202139
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CHRONOLOGICAL REVENGE OF THE SITH (RELEASED!)
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LordZerome1080 said:

IlFanEditore said:

ANAKIN’S TURN.

So, here’s a new clip.

You can see the usual color correction. Apart from red colors, everything else is darkened and desaturated.
Removed Anakin’s mention of Padme.
Removed mention of Darth Vader. Anakin thanks Palpy cause he said to him that the Force was strong with him.
Re-edited montage so that Palpy only sends Anakin to Mustafar and not to the Temple.
After the scene we cut tu Utapau and Order 66.

https://vimeo.com/267447903

Never mind.

Never mind what? 😄

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#1202091
Topic
CHRONOLOGICAL REVENGE OF THE SITH (RELEASED!)
Time

ANAKIN’S TURN.

So, here’s a new clip.

You can see the usual color correction. Apart from red colors, everything else is darkened and desaturated.
Removed Anakin’s mention of Padme.
Removed mention of Darth Vader. Anakin thanks Palpy cause he said to him that the Force was strong with him.
Re-edited montage so that Palpy only sends Anakin to Mustafar and not to the Temple.
After the scene we cut tu Utapau and Order 66.

https://vimeo.com/267447903

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#1201968
Topic
CHRONOLOGICAL REVENGE OF THE SITH (RELEASED!)
Time

I just remembered that Rebels season 2’s ending clearly says that Vader is Anakin, so to watch everything in chronological order, that should be edited too.
It is impossible to fix everything by just working on Episode III. We should at the very least work on Episode IV and Rebels too.

Anyway… another Color Correction here.
This is the “bubble theatre” panoramic view.

ORIGINAL: https://imgur.com/a/EFzTzYn

EDITED: https://imgur.com/a/VEpYlfb

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#1201110
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CHRONOLOGICAL REVENGE OF THE SITH (RELEASED!)
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Of course it will not and it cannot be perfect.

When you watch Episode IV Ben says that Vader was his apprentice, and Vader himself calls Ben “master”.
But with some imagination… Ben says that Vader was “a pupil of mine”. It can be seen like “I had many apprentices, Anakin was only one of them”.
And with Vader alling him “master”… well, every Jedi called a higher Jedi “master”.

My purpose is simply to make less obvious that Anakin is Darth Vader… for people who watch it for the first time.
Maybe you want to show the entire saga to your children. If you use another order, you will always have problems with some plot twists or with animated shows like Clone Wars and Rebels, and with spinoffs too.

With this you can watch everything in episodic order.
I, II, Clone Wars, III, Rogue One and so on.
If you really think about it, you start believing that Darth Vader is indeed Anakin, but you can’t be sure.

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#1201077
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CHRONOLOGICAL REVENGE OF THE SITH (RELEASED!)
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Ok, here’s what I’m doing.
I inserted the three “political” deleted scenes. The two with Padme, Bail, Mon and other senators and the one where they go to Palpatine.
I don’t dislike political scenes. Don’t forget that these movies are surele about Anakin becoming Darth Vader, but they are made to explain also how the Republic became the Empire. And this is a strictly political matter.

Then I removed only Anakin going to the Temple, killing younglings and 3PO telling Padme that Anakin was seen at the Temple.
We suppose that while CLONES kill jedi, Anakin is somewhere else.
But at least for now I’ll keep the Tantive IV scenes.

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#1200946
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CHRONOLOGICAL REVENGE OF THE SITH (RELEASED!)
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So you basically suggest that I simply remove Anakin’s scenes to the Temple but keep the scenes where we see the Clones attacking but put all of this after Palpy gives Order 66.
I don’t remember all the dialogue, but I think I could reinsert also the Tantive IV scene with Yoda, Bail and Obi Wan.

We keep everything, we just remove Anakin.
That’s really cool. In truth I was thinking about it, but I was working on other scenes so I didn’t have time to picture it.
Yes, I think it could be done 😉

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#1200721
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CHRONOLOGICAL REVENGE OF THE SITH (RELEASED!)
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jarbear said:

IlFanEditore said:

SECOND ANAKIN’S DREAM.

Same as before.
While there is the dream we hear low Palpatine saying: “Learn to use the Dark Side… Dark Side of the Force… Power to… Power to save Padme”.

https://streamable.com/bx2ze

I like that subtle inclusion of that to the dream. Maybe just SLIGHTLY louder … but not too much louder to drown out the rest of it. Only try that just to see how viable increasing it … since it’s pretty nice as is.

I tried different volumes.
I wanted something like Yoda’s voice in Rey’s vision in Episode VII, a voice that you hear but you don’t pay attention to unless you already know it.
Plus, I can increase volume of the first part, cause if I raise volume in the second (Power to save Padme) I think it becomes too obvious that Palpatine is the one speaking.
But of course I’ll keep trying.

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#1200714
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CHRONOLOGICAL REVENGE OF THE SITH (RELEASED!)
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jarbear said:

IlFanEditore said:

jarbear said:

Here is an idea I have about the baby birth scene:

No baby names are ever revealed. Also, it is important to remove the reveal of baby leia’s sex. Depending on the possibility to do it in a seamless way, a dub of Obi-Wan saying “It’s a Boy” helps with my idea. Here it is:

First of all, the main reveal of the babies’ genders in the original cut are revealed by the nursing robot. That is an easy fix, since she uses a “robot” language that is translated on screen. One could completely remove the translation, or use a very generic translation. It can be on the lines of “The first baby is healthy/first baby’s birth is successful” or “The second baby is healthy/the second baby’s birth is successful.” Also, having nothing is ok since Star Wars movies do not always translate Droids or Aliens.

SO with that in mind, imagine the first baby coming out and the droid’s words are not translated or say something different.

So the first birth goes as plans WITHOUT the droid revealing the sex. Obi-wan takes the baby, shows it to Padme. She does not name the child but goes directly to “pushing” out the next baby.

If possible, to help make the scene sound/feel more natural, if someone could do a seamless dub of Obi-Wan saying “it’s a boy,” it would be helpful to the scene before Padme begins “pushing out” the next child. The reason is he says “it’s a girl” to Leia but not when Luke is born. This is not 100% necessary, but adds polish to this edit.

So now we have the next baby coming out, the droid does not reveal the sex and we have Obi-wan with the second child. Here is the slight change to it from the original cut: Obi-Wan gets cut off by padme before he says girl.

It would go something like this:

Obi-Wan: “It’s a …”

Pademe: Cuts off Obi wan - “Obi-Wan…”

This way the baby’s gender is not revealed in a convincing way.

The cream on the top of this would again, be someone able to seamlessly dub in Obi Wan saying “it’s a boy” when Luke is born. Again, not 100% needed, but does help with the edit.

The next change deviates from the movie’s original transition. Instead of transitioning right a way to the interior of Tantive IV with Obi, Yoda and Bail … there is an establishing shot of the exterior of Tantine IV.

To do this, there are a few ways … one could be using a mirrored shot of Tantive IV from the movie OR someone with skill can make a new shot of the ship. It does not have to be anything fancy, just a non static shot of the ship.

During this establishment shot of the ship, it would have Obi-wan saying his line “What of the boy?”

Then it cuts to Yoda spinning in his seat and talks to Obi-Wan with the plan for the baby boy, etc. The rest is the original conversation between Yoda and Obi-Wan. By doing this, the audience is coming into the meeting during the middle … or ending of it. That way, the other baby, who’s gender has not been revealed is still hidden and its fate is not directly been revealed. Of course, we would need to remove all the Alderan shots of Bail and Wife with a baby. Just the shots of Obi-Wan on Tatooine … maybe even Yoda on Degobah.

What do you think?

Here’s what I mean.
If I remove the “It’s a girl” and during the Tantive IV scene we hear only Oni Wan talking about the boy, we don’t know about Leia’s fate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pbts9NOGR4&feature=youtu.be

The concept works aright, I don’t think it matters really who was “born first.” Obviously the boy is “rough,” but if someone who has more skill in audio editing or can piece together other sounds and words Ewan/Obi says … I think that can work very nicely.

Of course. Help is always appreciated.
If noone manages to do it, I’ll simply remove any mention of gender and in the Tantive IV we’ll only hear Obi asking about the boy.

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#1200700
Topic
CHRONOLOGICAL REVENGE OF THE SITH (RELEASED!)
Time

jarbear said:

Here is an idea I have about the baby birth scene:

No baby names are ever revealed. Also, it is important to remove the reveal of baby leia’s sex. Depending on the possibility to do it in a seamless way, a dub of Obi-Wan saying “It’s a Boy” helps with my idea. Here it is:

First of all, the main reveal of the babies’ genders in the original cut are revealed by the nursing robot. That is an easy fix, since she uses a “robot” language that is translated on screen. One could completely remove the translation, or use a very generic translation. It can be on the lines of “The first baby is healthy/first baby’s birth is successful” or “The second baby is healthy/the second baby’s birth is successful.” Also, having nothing is ok since Star Wars movies do not always translate Droids or Aliens.

SO with that in mind, imagine the first baby coming out and the droid’s words are not translated or say something different.

So the first birth goes as plans WITHOUT the droid revealing the sex. Obi-wan takes the baby, shows it to Padme. She does not name the child but goes directly to “pushing” out the next baby.

If possible, to help make the scene sound/feel more natural, if someone could do a seamless dub of Obi-Wan saying “it’s a boy,” it would be helpful to the scene before Padme begins “pushing out” the next child. The reason is he says “it’s a girl” to Leia but not when Luke is born. This is not 100% necessary, but adds polish to this edit.

So now we have the next baby coming out, the droid does not reveal the sex and we have Obi-wan with the second child. Here is the slight change to it from the original cut: Obi-Wan gets cut off by padme before he says girl.

It would go something like this:

Obi-Wan: “It’s a …”

Pademe: Cuts off Obi wan - “Obi-Wan…”

This way the baby’s gender is not revealed in a convincing way.

The cream on the top of this would again, be someone able to seamlessly dub in Obi Wan saying “it’s a boy” when Luke is born. Again, not 100% needed, but does help with the edit.

The next change deviates from the movie’s original transition. Instead of transitioning right a way to the interior of Tantive IV with Obi, Yoda and Bail … there is an establishing shot of the exterior of Tantine IV.

To do this, there are a few ways … one could be using a mirrored shot of Tantive IV from the movie OR someone with skill can make a new shot of the ship. It does not have to be anything fancy, just a non static shot of the ship.

During this establishment shot of the ship, it would have Obi-wan saying his line “What of the boy?”

Then it cuts to Yoda spinning in his seat and talks to Obi-Wan with the plan for the baby boy, etc. The rest is the original conversation between Yoda and Obi-Wan. By doing this, the audience is coming into the meeting during the middle … or ending of it. That way, the other baby, who’s gender has not been revealed is still hidden and its fate is not directly been revealed. Of course, we would need to remove all the Alderan shots of Bail and Wife with a baby. Just the shots of Obi-Wan on Tatooine … maybe even Yoda on Degobah.

What do you think?

Here’s what I mean.
If I remove the “It’s a girl” and during the Tantive IV scene we hear only Oni Wan talking about the boy, we don’t know about Leia’s fate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pbts9NOGR4&feature=youtu.be

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#1200694
Topic
CHRONOLOGICAL REVENGE OF THE SITH (RELEASED!)
Time

jarbear said:

Here is an idea I have about the baby birth scene:

No baby names are ever revealed. Also, it is important to remove the reveal of baby leia’s sex. Depending on the possibility to do it in a seamless way, a dub of Obi-Wan saying “It’s a Boy” helps with my idea. Here it is:

First of all, the main reveal of the babies’ genders in the original cut are revealed by the nursing robot. That is an easy fix, since she uses a “robot” language that is translated on screen. One could completely remove the translation, or use a very generic translation. It can be on the lines of “The first baby is healthy/first baby’s birth is successful” or “The second baby is healthy/the second baby’s birth is successful.” Also, having nothing is ok since Star Wars movies do not always translate Droids or Aliens.

SO with that in mind, imagine the first baby coming out and the droid’s words are not translated or say something different.

So the first birth goes as plans WITHOUT the droid revealing the sex. Obi-wan takes the baby, shows it to Padme. She does not name the child but goes directly to “pushing” out the next baby.

If possible, to help make the scene sound/feel more natural, if someone could do a seamless dub of Obi-Wan saying “it’s a boy,” it would be helpful to the scene before Padme begins “pushing out” the next child. The reason is he says “it’s a girl” to Leia but not when Luke is born. This is not 100% necessary, but adds polish to this edit.

So now we have the next baby coming out, the droid does not reveal the sex and we have Obi-wan with the second child. Here is the slight change to it from the original cut: Obi-Wan gets cut off by padme before he says girl.

It would go something like this:

Obi-Wan: “It’s a …”

Pademe: Cuts off Obi wan - “Obi-Wan…”

This way the baby’s gender is not revealed in a convincing way.

The cream on the top of this would again, be someone able to seamlessly dub in Obi Wan saying “it’s a boy” when Luke is born. Again, not 100% needed, but does help with the edit.

The next change deviates from the movie’s original transition. Instead of transitioning right a way to the interior of Tantive IV with Obi, Yoda and Bail … there is an establishing shot of the exterior of Tantine IV.

To do this, there are a few ways … one could be using a mirrored shot of Tantive IV from the movie OR someone with skill can make a new shot of the ship. It does not have to be anything fancy, just a non static shot of the ship.

During this establishment shot of the ship, it would have Obi-wan saying his line “What of the boy?”

Then it cuts to Yoda spinning in his seat and talks to Obi-Wan with the plan for the baby boy, etc. The rest is the original conversation between Yoda and Obi-Wan. By doing this, the audience is coming into the meeting during the middle … or ending of it. That way, the other baby, who’s gender has not been revealed is still hidden and its fate is not directly been revealed. Of course, we would need to remove all the Alderan shots of Bail and Wife with a baby. Just the shots of Obi-Wan on Tatooine … maybe even Yoda on Degobah.

What do you think?

This is something really cool, man 😄
I liked the twins’ “adoption” scenes with Bail and Beru/Owen, but since this edit is made to make Episode III watchable in chronological order, I think it is better try as you say.

Now, my proposal.
Simply change gender between children. Make Leia be born before Luke.
When Luke is born I TRY (I don’t promise anything) this: I leave “It’s a…” and then I take the “What of the BOY” and put it together.
Then we cut to Darth Vader’s birth and then to a Tantive IV opening scene before the “What of the boy” by Obi Wan.

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#1200675
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CHRONOLOGICAL REVENGE OF THE SITH (RELEASED!)
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jarbear said:

IlFanEditore said:

FIRST ANAKIN’S DREAM.

As I said, there is the cut from Grievous and Palpatine scene (where Palpy does not say that he is going to have a new apprentice) and then the panoramic city view of Coruscant.
No balcony scene, we cut to Anakin’s dream, where there are scenes on background about Shmi and Dooku’s death and Palpatine voice.

Anakin must have an “Odi et Amo” relationship with power itself, not just fear for Padme’s loss.

https://streamable.com/o5v94

That was done really well, nice job!

I am getting more and more interested in this edit. It gives me ideas about the collaboration RogueLeader is coming up with!

Thank you! Grazie! 😉

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#1200620
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CHRONOLOGICAL REVENGE OF THE SITH (RELEASED!)
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Ryan-SWI said:

IlFanEditore said:

LordZerome1080 said:

Visually stunning.

I’m not completely sure about the sky though.

Was about to mention that before I saw your comment, haha. Good job on the colour correction, I think you did a great job.
But the sky doesn’t blend well with the foreground. If you can darken the sky I think it’d look wonderful, it just looks a bit jarring at the moment.

Otherwise fantastic job!

The rain is an interesting idea but not sure how well it could be executed without looking tacky.

Thank you 😉 As I said, I tried working on the sky, but when I change settings on it, fake looking CGI becomes a punch in the face, and Obi Wan and Padme’s figures’ masking becomes too visible.
I will try again, of course, but I don’t promise any success.
With a bit of imagination it can be seen as just before dawn or after sunset, when the sky light is visible but the sun isn’t.

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#1200609
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CHRONOLOGICAL REVENGE OF THE SITH (RELEASED!)
Time

FIRST ANAKIN’S DREAM.

As I said, there is the cut from Grievous and Palpatine scene (where Palpy does not say that he is going to have a new apprentice) and then the panoramic city view of Coruscant.
No balcony scene, we cut to Anakin’s dream, where there are scenes on background about Shmi and Dooku’s death and Palpatine voice.

Anakin must have an “Odi et Amo” relationship with power itself, not just fear for Padme’s loss.

https://streamable.com/o5v94

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#1200589
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CHRONOLOGICAL REVENGE OF THE SITH (RELEASED!)
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LordZerome1080 said:

IlFanEditore said:

LordZerome1080 said:

The music is superb!! Please do tell where you got it from.

The first one from here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2Z04NAa65w

The second one from here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaEzKRngCyY

Which one do you prefer?
The first one is nice, but I’m not completely satisfied about how I have to dissolve it and put the Imperial March part at the end (when DV and Palpy look at the Death Star).

I actually love the transition. Keep it as is.

Thank you. I’m going to keep both versions until the final rendering. Then I’ll choose.

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#1200427
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CHRONOLOGICAL REVENGE OF THE SITH (RELEASED!)
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LordZerome1080 said:

The music is superb!! Please do tell where you got it from.

The first one from here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2Z04NAa65w

The second one from here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaEzKRngCyY

Which one do you prefer?
The first one is nice, but I’m not completely satisfied about how I have to dissolve it and put the Imperial March part at the end (when DV and Palpy look at the Death Star).