TV’s Frink said:

IP55 said:

Wikipedia is just shite that was created after

Wrong pedia.

It’s full of bollocks whatever pedia

Lord Haseo said:

TV’s Frink said:

To be fair it was never referenced in any of the films before Rogue One. So if your personal canon is the films only, as mine is, then the question of his home is an open one. Well, at least until Rogue One was released anyway.

But there are multiple things we aren’t told and shown in the OT. Vader slaughtering Rebels is a perfect example.

Somethings should be left alone…
This was one of those things, I wouldn’t want to see its a wonderful life 2

The only thing that exists on my world is the OT, vader lived on the death star and other ships haha. Not some count ducula castle…cannon,prequels and Wikis are just shite that was created after the event.

Lord Haseo said:

IP55 said:

Lord Haseo said:

That’s not a good enough reason.

What isn’t, the prequels were terrible!

A good reason would be that it doesn’t make sense story wise. You never did elaborate on why you thought it was “just wrong” or whatever else you said.

Because Lord vader never had a home! Well not a Disney castle. Blatant merchandise creation.

timdiggerm said:

Around here, people like to deny that the PT happened

They did unfortunately, but I can ignore them and tfa and to some extent any other spin off of the OT

Lord Haseo said:

That’s not a good enough reason.

What isn’t, the prequels were terrible!

MalàStrana said:

It’s a nod to both trilogies, since it’s a single 6-part saga I don’t really see the difference…

The difference is the prequels are shit, R1 is acceptable and can be defined as the only prequel bar it’s flaws that can be edited out easily enough. Tfa can go with the prequels as that was just garbage.

Lord Haseo said:

Why? Is it the fact that it exists at all or is it because it’s on Mustafar?

It’s a nod to the prequels

And it is just wrong

Tobar said:

I wouldn’t want to hear the Imperial March before its first appearance in The Empire Strikes Back. Having it hinted at here is the right way to do it.

I concur

The only thing I really didn’t like re: shoots is vader’s castle 🏰

darthrush said:

IP55 said:

darthrush said:

It’s nice to know that the reshoots added more Vader stuff and that the updated version of Rogue One didn’t cut out Vader possibly fighting on Scarif or anything. If they filmed him kicking ass on Scarif but cut it from the final version, I would be livid.

The re-shoots speak volumes, the original cut must have been even less coherent!

I actually kinda wanted to see Jyn and Cassian running from AT-ACT’s. I love the third act as is, but there is always that lingering curiosity of seeing those cut beach scenes.

I’d like to see a different edit of the entire film, parts just didn’t work for me, agree on third act, best part by far. The opening is confused and it doesn’t flow right imo.

darthrush said:

It’s nice to know that the reshoots added more Vader stuff and that the updated version of Rogue One didn’t cut out Vader possibly fighting on Scarif or anything. If they filmed him kicking ass on Scarif but cut it from the final version, I would be livid.

The re-shoots speak volumes, the original cut must have been even less coherent!

Tobar said:

Alderaan said:

Yeah everyone already knows that. Are you guys trying to suggest that Fox is the reason the OOT hasn’t been released? Because boy, that’s a good one…

Think about this from a business perspective. We’ve received multiple reports that they’ve restored the OUT but there’s been no sign of a release. Why is that? Here are the two options:

• Release them now and let 20th Century profit off the work you invested into restoring them
• Wait until you’ve fully secured the rights for two-thirds of the trilogy and only split the profits for one film

Which sounds like the smarter business decision?

They’re probably waiting on the re-shoots…

TV’s Frink said:

IP55 said:

TV’s Frink said:

IP55 said:

TV’s Frink said:

IP55 said:

imperialscum said:

Alderaan said:

[Haarspalter said:]
If you want to find out what George Lucas was thinking when he made the PT

He was thinking the same things he was thinking when he made the OT if you ask me. But there were no longer any constraints or people to reign him in.

I think if George could have, he would have made the originals exactly like he made the prequels.

I doubt that. He had practically no constraints in ESB and ROTJ as he held the rights to the sequels and was doing them with his own company. Even in ANH he had mostly free hands since the studio did not seem to care about the film prior to the release.

I would say it is mostly that in OT he actually had good ideas and was open to feedback from his collaborators.

Irvin made ESB what it was.

End

I love people who think the director is the only person responsible for the success or failure of a movie.

So the exec producer is. Yeah hitchcock, Sergio leone, coppola films etc weren’t down to direction!

The only people I love more than those who think the director is the

only

person responsible for the success or failure of a movie?

People who can’t be bothered to read.

Did I ever say a director has sole responsibility?

Yes, you did.

Are you thick? That says irvin was the making of it, not wholly responsible!

Empire strikes back 2

Sougouk said:

I want to see Rogue One again.

It definitely deserves a second viewing on kodi don’t pay

I thought it was okay first time around, second viewing I analysed it and it is indeed a chopped together bag of shite

I wonder of there will be a death star in it

TV’s Frink said:

Oh god, every time I think this place can’t sink lower, something happens like me having to watch an argument between IP55 and impscum.

I’d much rather read your replies to everyone as if you are the fountain of knowledge? When clearly judging by some of your contradictory posts you clearly are not!

ray_afraid said:

Ah, I see. You were just talking out loud to nobody and referencing nothing at all that had just been said. Gotcha.

I was actually referring to a majority of the blinkered ignorant members who seem to think the new films are actually good films? Why protect films that will never be anything other than attempts at re creating something that is long gone!

TV’s Frink said:

IP55 said:

TV’s Frink said:

IP55 said:

imperialscum said:

Alderaan said:

[Haarspalter said:]
If you want to find out what George Lucas was thinking when he made the PT

He was thinking the same things he was thinking when he made the OT if you ask me. But there were no longer any constraints or people to reign him in.

I think if George could have, he would have made the originals exactly like he made the prequels.

I doubt that. He had practically no constraints in ESB and ROTJ as he held the rights to the sequels and was doing them with his own company. Even in ANH he had mostly free hands since the studio did not seem to care about the film prior to the release.

I would say it is mostly that in OT he actually had good ideas and was open to feedback from his collaborators.

Irvin made ESB what it was.

End

I love people who think the director is the only person responsible for the success or failure of a movie.

So the exec producer is. Yeah hitchcock, Sergio leone, coppola films etc weren’t down to direction!

The only people I love more than those who think the director is the

only

person responsible for the success or failure of a movie?

People who can’t be bothered to read.

Did I ever say a director has sole responsibility? They certainly have a huge impact, if someone else directed the Shining or Blade Runner I’m sure they would have been very different beasts!

imperialscum said:

IP55 said:

imperialscum said:

IP55 said:

imperialscum said:

That is a misconception I would say. When you read the transcripts from meetings between Lucas, Kasdan and Kershner during the ESB pre-production, it is obvious Lucas dismissed many feedback and ideas coming from either of them. Many of those ideas were not good in my opinion anyway. However, he did keep the good ones, which shows that he actually had a different mentality back then. And judging from his absence in these transcripts, Kurtz wasn’t even involved in these sessions.

Saying Kurtz and Kershner were in charge of ESB is rather silly. Lucas had pretty much everything under control. Even during the principal photography when minor changes were made to the script, Kershner actually phoned Lucas and he approved them.

And anyone would panic when time and cost of principal photography is doubled. Even major studios would freak out, let alone newly founded independent film company. I think Kurtz was quite rightfully fired for that.

Alderaan said:

and so it’s clear to me at least that George Lucas has the mind of a child and always had the mind of a child.

Maybe you should go watch THX1138.

Then you’ll see just how much of a fluke ANH was haha

You are entering the silly zone my friend.

Are you saying thx is a ‘good film’?

That is right boy. That is the truth.

Subjective and I’m probably older than you pal

imperialscum said:

IP55 said:

imperialscum said:

That is a misconception I would say. When you read the transcripts from meetings between Lucas, Kasdan and Kershner during the ESB pre-production, it is obvious Lucas dismissed many feedback and ideas coming from either of them. Many of those ideas were not good in my opinion anyway. However, he did keep the good ones, which shows that he actually had a different mentality back then. And judging from his absence in these transcripts, Kurtz wasn’t even involved in these sessions.

Saying Kurtz and Kershner were in charge of ESB is rather silly. Lucas had pretty much everything under control. Even during the principal photography when minor changes were made to the script, Kershner actually phoned Lucas and he approved them.

And anyone would panic when time and cost of principal photography is doubled. Even major studios would freak out, let alone newly founded independent film company. I think Kurtz was quite rightfully fired for that.

Alderaan said:

and so it’s clear to me at least that George Lucas has the mind of a child and always had the mind of a child.

Maybe you should go watch THX1138.

Then you’ll see just how much of a fluke ANH was haha

You are entering the silly zone my friend.

Are you saying thx is a ‘good film’?

ray_afraid said:

^ You were replying to him, so it was just common sense on Haseo’s part.

If I was replying to him I would have quoted him!

If you read Pollock’s skywalking he certainly did pass on ESB to his mentor and he is actually quoted saying that he ‘hates directing’. Hence why he misused so many quality actors in the prequels because he was so engrossed in his then ‘latest technology’ which dominated these films.